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at 15:13 6 Oct 2024
That is fine to stay i haven't given them much of a chamce. i think the thread is about how long would you give them. For me 10 games gives one a reasonable idea. For you? |
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at 07:20 6 Oct 2024
It was Marti who asked for the players he got. He made the fundamental error of thinking he could do something different in this league. He is responsible for this mess and in his own words is very stubborn so is continuing with a style that simply does not work. He created it and if he dies by it that is his fault. Anderson, Madson, Celar, Santos, Varane were a waste of money and in my view will all disappear from the club within 18 months. Personally i would give Marti 3 more games but if he doesn't change i don't see results will and they never will with the squad he has formed and the style he wants to play. The problem is all of the clubs making and once again we find ourselves in a situation caused by a poor transfer policy. Belk should probably move on too unless he has a very good excuse. |
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Reply | Cifuentes Post Match Comments
at 18:59 5 Oct 2024
He points out the problems very clearly in his interview. We have signed a certain style of player etc. unfortunately they are not the style of player required in the Championship unless they are very good not bang average. He has created the problem by totally misunderstanding what this division is all about. He chunters on about different styles of play but doesn't seem to realise what he bought is not good enough to compete against the strong, determined typical Championship player. He asked for a type of player and got it partly i am sure because Nourri doesn't have the experience to say that wont work here . We are bang in trouble . All an opposition has to do is close us down fast, get in some strong tackles and we can't cope. Marti worked with what he had last year to great effect. In the summer he had the chance to mould a team in his vision but unfortunately that vision was completely misguided. We pin our hopes on Chair, JCS and even Fox all last years players. Never a mention of a new signing being a hope bar Nardi. Madson , Santos, Varane all weak and unable to cope with the physicality. Dembele and Saito and Celar in the same category, This is a physical league and we signed powder puffs. |
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Reply | Rammed if you do, Rammed if you don't - Derby Vs Qpr Match Thread
at 16:49 5 Oct 2024
Marti chose these players. He was very demanding about what and who he wanted and he got it totally wrong and in my view we are in a worse place now than under Ainsworth. With him the tactics were all wrong with Marti the players are all wrong and that is a real problem. Plus in League 1 these players will also be too weak |
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Reply | Rammed if you do, Rammed if you don't - Derby Vs Qpr Match Thread
at 16:25 5 Oct 2024
I will get shouted at for this but it was Marti who pushed for these signings. They are in the main not of the style or quality required for the Championship. He is the one who appears to have screwed it. People say it is way to early but we are 20% thru the season and we have a big problem simply as we wasted a transfer window again.We all had hope at the start of the season and now we have a manager who is clutching at straws. Lose against Portsmouth and the pressure is on Marti. At the moment he seems completely out of ideas and has clearly messed up on who he has bought in. He has created the problem to which there appears little solution |
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Reply | Madsen
at 18:52 4 Oct 2024
And this thread seems to say wrong players bought and wrong tactics. Result will be a disaster unless someone wakes up to what seems obvious to people on this board. I also dont agree on Field. He is left isolated as the rest of the midfield bar Colback seem simply scared of making a tackle. This division is not fancy and frankly Marti needs to wake up to that pretty quickly. We nor he can afford 3 or 4 more games without a win. |
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Reply | Is it too early to........
at 11:03 3 Oct 2024
I think after 8 games you do have an idea about the quality of the team and from that you can deduce where we might end up. You have one camp saying oh these players are just bedding in and the other saying look after 8 games you should have come up to speed. I just dont know how long people think bedding in takes. No other team has our issue seemingly. Only QPR need 10, 20, 30 games for a player to bed in, it is nuts. Anyone can make a tackle, be strong, be determined, control the ball, make a pass, mark their man. It really isnt rocket science. problem is we sign a whole load of players who simply do not have those attributes. varane the great box to box midfielder seems to run around scared and passes backwards all the time, Madson very cool but doesnt get stuck , Santos backs off his man and leaves way too much space between him and his opponent presumably as he has no confidence he wont be beaten, Celar simply weak and the chances he has had he has messed up. We signed the wrong players and Marti is trying to play a game where the opposition know exactly what to do, get amongst them as they can't handle it. Such a waste of a summer after last year's fantastic effort. |
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Reply | Bottom 3
at 10:52 3 Oct 2024
This time last year we had 8 points 1 more than currently. Everyone was going mental and now it is just they are bedding in and they are good players. Well other sides have good players too and they are clearly better than us! Once again we have bought in the wrong type of players. Marti maybe wants to play like Pep but it doesnt work in this league especially with the quality of player we have. Watch the ball control. So often the players can't control the ball immediatley and it moves a couple of feet from their body and possession is lost. Field said Hull was the best we had played all season and we lost 3 - 1. The expectation was that Nourri would get together our buying and we would stop buying duds. it hasn't happened . Loads of teams have players 'bedding in' and none are as poor as we are. The next couple of games i feel are quite important. Crowds turn and having had to put up with Millwall, Blackburn and Hull i don't think that day is far away. We need a win badly and another loss or two potentially dropping us to the bottom of the league will start a lot of pressure. Marti says keep believing well at some point that has to turn into winning games and not being mauled by such as Millar and Cantwell and most of the rest of all the sides too. |
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Reply | It is the time of the season...
at 10:44 2 Oct 2024
I am not blaming the players i am blaming those who buy them. If Celar doesn't suit the system why buy him? If you need a box to box midfielder why buy Varane [ always passes backwards] or Madson. For seasons now we seldom seem to buy well. 6 months by the way takes us to March which is a little late dont you think!! And Anderson i am afraid for me i said on game 1 he was making too many errors and so far that seems to be right. Last night his lack of control let in their 2nd and his header early on was straight down to the keepers gut, the only place it could be saved and then he had an open goal 10 yards out which he fluffed.
I am not righting off Saito or Dembele or Nardi i just wonder why we signed such as Santos who was clearly taken apart by Millar who is a good player but hardly brilliant. |
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Reply | It is the time of the season...
at 10:07 2 Oct 2024
Interesting. Do you think Santos, Madson, Celar, Anderson are championship standard? How long should one give them? |
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Thread | It is the time of the season...
at 09:04 2 Oct 2024
... when we have had a good look at other teams and can judge where we are in comparison. And the answer is are there 3 teams worse than us in the league? Hull are probably a top 10 maybe top 6 side and how many of our team would of even made their bench. Maybe a couple no more. To me in this division when you buy a player you are looking apart from football skills for speed , attitude and strength. Santos, Madson , Celar , Anderson [ especially he is dreadful] why did we buy them? I just dont understand our transfer policy. Who is in charge of it and why do they buy players who clearly are not suited to the intensity of the Championship. Celar people say is not suited to our system so why buy him. He looks completely useless to me. Unless something really is going on with Kohli why not give him a go , he cant be less effective than totally ineffective.. Anderson is a liability. Most games he makes a dreadful error and misses a sitter. Last night was a prime example. And compare Millar with Smyth or maybe don't. And Santos with any of Hull's back four . And the list goes on. Marti says keep believing and that belief can go no further than i hope we can stay up. It is so frustrating that every year we buy so many very poor players . Why is someone not answerable? |
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Reply | Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes
at 22:11 1 Oct 2024
Signings are what make the difference and they have fir us. Once again we have made ourselves worse not better. Can someone ease tell me what Celar offers? And why does he play Anderson who is a walking liability. Nardi is good. Dumbele looked like he was going to be great but last 3 games he has been poor. Are there 3 worse teams than us? It is difficult to see. Whoever picks the players we sign should be sacked |
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Reply | Match Thread: Hull is for Heroes
at 21:58 1 Oct 2024
As Pep says it is what you do in the boxes that matters. Up front we have no delivery and in Celar a really weak optoption. At the back Santos and Paal having a lesson . Bottom 3 by the weekend and if this is all we have got League 1 next year. I just don't understand why we bought all these weak players. The championship is a lot about strength and commitment of which nearly all the new players have none. People talk about let them bed in. How long do people want? We are dreadful that is the truth. |
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Reply | What we know so far....
at 17:27 28 Sep 2024
Wilkinswatercarrier what do you make of these players? I am not saying they are all going to be useless but i am saying they all seem physically poor for this league and it does not bode well. Our midfield seems to be the major problem. No box to box player who can drive the players forward. Madson and Virane have not been great so far . |
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Reply | What we know so far....
at 15:52 28 Sep 2024
I think in the window we looked like we were signing the players for the positions we wanted ie box to box midfielder. Problem is, as yet ,the reality is they aren't what was suggested and all seem a bit shocked about the speed and physicality of this league. Generally they are too weak, too slow and maybe as a result look like they cant control a football. Oppositions seem to have worked out hound this side and they will crumble in midfield. I cant think of a game so far where one can say the midfield has run/influenced the outcome. |
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Thread | What we know so far....
at 15:37 28 Sep 2024
Unfortunately it seems to me that we have once again signed a bunch of very second rate players who are simply not good enough for this league. Marti has his style, fair enough, but unfortunately the players signed have such poor ball control and are physically not up to task so we have a struggle ahead. Saito , he will be good for 10 minutes and then a championship defender will get amongst him and he is simply given a physical lesson. If he had good close ball control he might be okay but he hasnt. Virane described himself as a box to box midfielder. He is physically weak, has poor ball control and mainly passes backwards and is slow. Just not good enough for this league. Anderson will make 2 good passes and 6 bad ones. Physically too weak for this league and too slow. Frey is okay . Celar , really disappointing. Too slow, too weak, poor ball control. Just not good enough. Santos could be okay. Kid from Newcastle who knows . Today compare Cantwell with our midfield. He was fast, good ball control and physically strong. Madsen too slow, too weak, poor ball control. Dembele will have to learn he has to find space not expect the ball to arrive in space. Overall i think the defence is okay, up front we arent great but we can survive and then the midfield which is lightweight, cant pass, is slow, cant control a football and frankly is pretty shocking and cannot dominate. Whoever signed these players has for yet another season done a very poor job. They just arent up to it for the main part especially across midfield. It is going to be a struggle and whilst i might get shouted down at least Colback will match up physically to the opposition. Most of ours seem scared of a physical confrontation, back off and then when they get the ball either pass sideways, make a bad pass, get hounded down and definitely dont go box to box. Wrong players for this division i fear. |
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Reply | The no ones bothered Blackburn match thingy
at 14:00 28 Sep 2024
We are too slow, we dont actually hold the ball well and we are physically weak. In this league that means we are only going in one direction. |
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