| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread 13:54 - Dec 23 with 27114 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
Match 5 😯
Going a bit early due to Xmas and I'm not changing the format as I'm becoming more superstitious the longer this run continues.
Will the Welsh valleys be filled with the joyous choir melodies of Rangers fans celebrating another good result?
Will The Rs refuse to go gentle into that good night?
Does Matri look younger when QPR do well?
Those Ancient Alien Astronaut theorists give a resounding Yes!
Tough game, no Cook, but we are looking difficult to breakdown. Going for a 1-0 win, but be delighted with a draw.
Happy Xmas everyone, and safe journey to those making the trip along the M4. U Rs! |  | | |  |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:19 - Dec 26 with 2103 views | DannyPaddox |
In future we should ask the FA if we can play our 3rd Round FA Cup fixture on Boxing Day thus consolidating our existing jinxes |  | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:22 - Dec 26 with 1992 views | stainrods_elbow |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:15 - Dec 26 by Kiko |
Poor game, but hoping it's a one off. Would rather Chair, Frey and Morrison start at Norwich if possible. Even if they have to come off at half time. Looked better when Chair and Frey came on today |
Yes to Chair (and Morrison) starting v Norwich if they're fit enough, but why doesn't Marti show a bit of awayday footballing guts and play Frey AND Kolli up front against Norwich? We'll probably lose either way, but at least we might have a shot or two! |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:25 - Dec 26 with 1947 views | stainrods_elbow |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:19 - Dec 26 by DannyPaddox |
In future we should ask the FA if we can play our 3rd Round FA Cup fixture on Boxing Day thus consolidating our existing jinxes |
Brilliant! And ask for Keith Stroud and his matchday clowns to officiate! | |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:31 - Dec 26 with 1876 views | Esox_Lucius |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 16:04 - Dec 26 by A40Bosh |
That's what I love about some of the "posters" on this site.
7 games unbeaten, won the last three on the bounce at home.
Won 3 of the last 5 away.
One terrible half of football and mummy is going to have to go and find some dummies to hand out. |
Chicken Lickin for supporter of the year? |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:47 - Dec 26 with 1655 views | stainrods_elbow |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:31 - Dec 26 by Esox_Lucius |
Chicken Lickin for supporter of the year? |
No one expects us to be riding some tidal wave of consistency, clearly, but there are decent limits! Smyth's goal apart, pretty much the whole of the Bristol game, half of the Oxford match, and 80% at least of today were atrociously to surreally unpleasant. We simply cannot go on as a football club with displays that icky, wherever we sit in the table. Marti has been getting the plaudits of late, but the buck stops with him, and he needs to start by owning what happened today. Even with our captain missing, that was a pile of dung!
I hope he and Calm are the antithesis of calm in that dressing room, and we've got one or two who'll be squaring up to one another, as they all need to be really hurting. Whether they've got the anger, passion and pride, especially on the road, to play their way back into some kind of basic footballing shape, week in, week out, I'm less and less convinced. | |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:02 - Dec 26 with 1498 views | Rangersw12 |
Very poor today but it was likely to happen after the efforts of the last few weeks .
Massive overreaction from the usual posters who seem to love this sort of result . Will let them vent on here whilst I get back on the vodka !
Nourry out/ Marti in
Up the Rangers | | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:11 - Dec 26 with 1393 views | QPunkR |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:19 - Dec 26 by DannyPaddox |
In future we should ask the FA if we can play our 3rd Round FA Cup fixture on Boxing Day thus consolidating our existing jinxes |
That's the best idea I've heard in ages. Would save us all a lot of faffing about! |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:13 - Dec 26 with 1353 views | kensalriser |
Well between that and the pile of vomit the cat left on the kitchen floor overnight, I think I appreciate the cat's effort more. |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:15 - Dec 26 with 1325 views | JamesB1979 |
Morrison out for “some weeks” according to Marti. | | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:18 - Dec 26 with 1276 views | QPunkR |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:15 - Dec 26 by JamesB1979 |
Morrison out for “some weeks” according to Marti. |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:19 - Dec 26 with 1272 views | Dorse |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:18 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
I think I might start watching this lot from behind the sofa like I did as a kid with Dr Who.
As for us being football's extremists, they're certainly turning me manic-depressive! |
Dorse Industries presents the all-new Dr Stainrod's patented Sofa-Occluded QPR Viewing Periscope! It's 'fun' for all the family!*
* Actual enjoyment is directly proportional to the amount of Morgan Fox in view. |  |
| 'What do we want? We don't know! When do we want it? Now!' |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:22 - Dec 26 with 1217 views | hoopstar67 |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:22 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
Yes to Chair (and Morrison) starting v Norwich if they're fit enough, but why doesn't Marti show a bit of awayday footballing guts and play Frey AND Kolli up front against Norwich? We'll probably lose either way, but at least we might have a shot or two! |
I've noticed that most of your posts there is always a dig at Marti,especially if we have had a dodgy performance or result, and again today you seem that you can't wait to dig him out even after the run we have been on,I'm just asking do you want a different manager and why you are not having him?Genuine question and just curious. |  | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:23 - Dec 26 with 1196 views | ManinBlack |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:02 - Dec 26 by Rangersw12 |
Very poor today but it was likely to happen after the efforts of the last few weeks .
Massive overreaction from the usual posters who seem to love this sort of result . Will let them vent on here whilst I get back on the vodka !
Nourry out/ Marti in
Up the Rangers |
How is it an overreaction when we haven't won on this date away for 56 years? There are many on here who have never experienced a QPR away win on Boxing Day in their lifetime so it's a bit crass to say we loved the result. The display today reminds me of the Redknapp comment about bonus away games in the Premier League.
Today's performance was even worse than last year's at Millwall. Wednesday were three down at half time to Boro and fought back to draw where we barely had a shot all game. The fans who went today deserve better. |  | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:24 - Dec 26 with 1188 views | E15Hoop |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:47 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
No one expects us to be riding some tidal wave of consistency, clearly, but there are decent limits! Smyth's goal apart, pretty much the whole of the Bristol game, half of the Oxford match, and 80% at least of today were atrociously to surreally unpleasant. We simply cannot go on as a football club with displays that icky, wherever we sit in the table. Marti has been getting the plaudits of late, but the buck stops with him, and he needs to start by owning what happened today. Even with our captain missing, that was a pile of dung!
I hope he and Calm are the antithesis of calm in that dressing room, and we've got one or two who'll be squaring up to one another, as they all need to be really hurting. Whether they've got the anger, passion and pride, especially on the road, to play their way back into some kind of basic footballing shape, week in, week out, I'm less and less convinced. |
Nice to see that in this constantly changing world in which we now reside, we can rely on your usual dose of overreaction as a peg of familiarity to cling onto!
Today was not a great watch - fair point, and I doubt you'll have too many disagreeing with you on that. Clearly, the players had been told to sit in a mid-block when Swansea had the ball, and you can justifiably put that down to a tactical error by the coaching staff, and a strange one at that, considering how well the energetic high press has worked over the last few matches.
By letting Swansea have that much unchallenged possession, we clearly gave them the inititiative to dictate play which might atcually have been OK if we'd been able to deal with their fluidity off the ball and the pace of their movement in between the lines.
There seemed to be a lot of confusion about who should be tracking who, and this was exacerbated by our failure to hold onto the ball for any period of time on the rare occasions we did win it back.
All that said, there was a marked improvement in our work without the ball in the second half, particularly when Chair and Ashby came on, which suggests that we were feeling leggy after the Preston game. When you add that into the fact that you've got a centre back pairing who have probably only played a handful of games together during their QPR career to date, its easy to see why the plan unravelled as it did in the first half.
So yes, you can point fingers across the board for this one, but I would respectfully suggest that we're a little away from bringing the firing squad in just yet, and as for suggesting that the players might want to knock several layers of sh*t out of each other, I'm not exactly sure how that helps them to work together productively going forwards.
Perhaps you might care to enlighten us all as to which managerial guru's famed process you subscribe to? | | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:30 - Dec 26 with 1087 views | kensalriser |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:23 - Dec 26 by ManinBlack |
How is it an overreaction when we haven't won on this date away for 56 years? There are many on here who have never experienced a QPR away win on Boxing Day in their lifetime so it's a bit crass to say we loved the result. The display today reminds me of the Redknapp comment about bonus away games in the Premier League.
Today's performance was even worse than last year's at Millwall. Wednesday were three down at half time to Boro and fought back to draw where we barely had a shot all game. The fans who went today deserve better. |
Boro were down to ten after 55 minutes. | |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:33 - Dec 26 with 1057 views | connell10 |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:47 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
No one expects us to be riding some tidal wave of consistency, clearly, but there are decent limits! Smyth's goal apart, pretty much the whole of the Bristol game, half of the Oxford match, and 80% at least of today were atrociously to surreally unpleasant. We simply cannot go on as a football club with displays that icky, wherever we sit in the table. Marti has been getting the plaudits of late, but the buck stops with him, and he needs to start by owning what happened today. Even with our captain missing, that was a pile of dung!
I hope he and Calm are the antithesis of calm in that dressing room, and we've got one or two who'll be squaring up to one another, as they all need to be really hurting. Whether they've got the anger, passion and pride, especially on the road, to play their way back into some kind of basic footballing shape, week in, week out, I'm less and less convinced. |
Mate we had 2 of our best defenders out, Morrison and Cook.....also JCS is just coming back from a long injury. As soon as I saw the team I knew we were in trouble. Injuries are killing us at the moment unfortunately and you can't win every game. |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:36 - Dec 26 with 1014 views | Markofthegrove |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:47 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
No one expects us to be riding some tidal wave of consistency, clearly, but there are decent limits! Smyth's goal apart, pretty much the whole of the Bristol game, half of the Oxford match, and 80% at least of today were atrociously to surreally unpleasant. We simply cannot go on as a football club with displays that icky, wherever we sit in the table. Marti has been getting the plaudits of late, but the buck stops with him, and he needs to start by owning what happened today. Even with our captain missing, that was a pile of dung!
I hope he and Calm are the antithesis of calm in that dressing room, and we've got one or two who'll be squaring up to one another, as they all need to be really hurting. Whether they've got the anger, passion and pride, especially on the road, to play their way back into some kind of basic footballing shape, week in, week out, I'm less and less convinced. |
Have you seen what he is dealing with? The squad is terribly unbalanced.
You've got a Right footed centre back playing right back, because the two right backs we signed are dog po**. Therefore meaning JCS has to play Right centre half to accommodate Fox. Now morrison is injured for 'weeks' and Cook is out and we have no cover at left back.
Wonder if we can get another "Kings message" from Nourry.
That message yesterday was as disingenuous as it comes and about as humble as Cristiano Ronaldo after scoring a penalty against the dog and duck Sunday league side.
Good job we spent all of our budget on Nicolas Madsen who is completely useless.
It's never as bad as it seems when we're bad and never as good as it feels when on a good run. But the recruitment in the summer and the continued remote working of the head of performance are still big issues.
Christian is probably reading this, so maybe he will give us scum a few words from the goodness of his heart. | | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:37 - Dec 26 with 1013 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 17:22 - Dec 26 by stainrods_elbow |
Yes to Chair (and Morrison) starting v Norwich if they're fit enough, but why doesn't Marti show a bit of awayday footballing guts and play Frey AND Kolli up front against Norwich? We'll probably lose either way, but at least we might have a shot or two! |
How is Marti meant to play Kolli and Frey upfront against Norwich in 3 days time?
That would be mad, you'd be risking both strikers in one game when we only have two strikers.
I think MC knows better than do daft things like that. | | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:37 - Dec 26 with 1008 views | kropotkin41 |
Second half was a different game. The first half was jaw droppingly one-sided.
I'm not sure there was either a tackle or a completed pass until after halftime.
Does that lad Madsen have a second gear? |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:39 - Dec 26 with 942 views | stainrods_elbow |
To answer you, hoopstar67, I actually like him overall and want to see him succeed at QPR, though I feel he's still learning on the job and he's been getting too easy a ride at times from some of the Martiphiles here, largely because of his banked credit from last season and our injury list this. I also think it's very notable for some posters how literally everything wrong with the team seems to get blamed on the players, while factors that are clearly coach-driven including our team shape, ultra-defensive mindset at times, inability/unwillingness to keep possession, ineptitude at free kicks etc. rarely get referred back to him and Calm. Some of our absolutely all-time worst performances in recent weeks have also been on their watch. Plus, despite the scornful view of the usual suspects that post-match manager interviews, and even newspaper articles, don't matter and I shouldn't watch or read, let alone scrutinise them, I will and I do. I also feel he sometimes soft-pedals his criticisms and/or makes pitiful excuses, like mentioning the extra day's preparation Bristol City had in his assessment of our performance.
Finally, for me, and as in life, a football message board like this one is and should be a place of argument and counter-argument, including a generous sprinkle of devil's advocacy. I like balance, a bit of passionate friction, and reading between the lines where I can.
(Thanks for the genuine question - I hope this is a genuine answer!) [Post edited 26 Dec 19:18]
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:41 - Dec 26 with 937 views | knocker |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:33 - Dec 26 by connell10 |
Mate we had 2 of our best defenders out, Morrison and Cook.....also JCS is just coming back from a long injury. As soon as I saw the team I knew we were in trouble. Injuries are killing us at the moment unfortunately and you can't win every game. |
Unless I misheard Marti in post match interview, Morriston joins Cook as being out for weeks. No right footed centre backs unless we move Dunne.
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:42 - Dec 26 with 918 views | knocker |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:33 - Dec 26 by connell10 |
Mate we had 2 of our best defenders out, Morrison and Cook.....also JCS is just coming back from a long injury. As soon as I saw the team I knew we were in trouble. Injuries are killing us at the moment unfortunately and you can't win every game. |
Unless I misheard Marti in post match interview, Morriston joins Cook as being out for weeks. No right footed centre backs .
Unless we move Dunne.
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:48 - Dec 26 with 860 views | Discodroids |
And Lo, after 18 cans of boxing day Estrella I brought the Chigwell Mother in law into my garden and chained her to a tree and my children did make sport of her. |  |
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| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:50 - Dec 26 with 844 views | Northernr |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 18:41 - Dec 26 by knocker |
Unless I misheard Marti in post match interview, Morriston joins Cook as being out for weeks. No right footed centre backs unless we move Dunne.
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Non contact muscle injuries stacking up - JCS, Celar, Cook, Morrison.
Not a good sign at all for our “performance department”. |  | | |
| QPR v Ride A White Swansea Match Thread on 19:05 - Dec 26 with 721 views | stainrods_elbow |
Wow! With 'realism' like yours, E15, give me extremism anyday! The correlation between people who like to paint themselves as 'realists' and a kind of smug self- righteousness is striking in life. It's an especially peculiar thing coming from a football fan, all of whom are some of the most unbalanced, idealistic and irrational people you'll meet anywhere - the clue's in the word 'fanatic' in case you missed it!
If you think yet another game of away less than 30% possession can be explained as a technical 'error', the fact that we literally couldn't string three passes together for 45 minutes deserves a measured response, and that we 'played' (and even then completely ineffectively) for about a quarter of an hour at most deserves a pat on the back, you can shove your circumspection where the sun don't shine. Do you ever give any consideration to the possibility that the boot might be on the other foot and it might not be me 'over-reacting' but you 'under reacting'? It's a bit like when people get called 'over-sensitive' by those afflicted with thicker skins. I also find it hilarious and telling that many others on here react and write even more fulminatingly than me at times, yet it's the usual suspects' resident scapegoat you choose to pick on.
Finally, to answer your infantilising post's final question with an authenticity I'm not sure it deserves, the kind of professionals I like are fierce perfectionists and dying breeds like Roy Keane, John McEnroe, Alex Ferguson, Gordon Ramsey, and Marco Pierre White. Men of heated (and sometimes overheated) passion who, if they can sometimes shade into obnoxious bullies or seem to, demand standards and quality of themselves and others with an almost demonic ferocity. As Keane has said, argument and friction is often good in a dressing room - it signifies pride and leadership. (And as my first piece of evidence, I give you Manchester United, of whom Keano amusingly remarked that the current crop get so heated sometimes they throw hair gel at each other!) I question these players', and this manager's, pride and passion after today's showing, and one or two recent performances (or half-performances), and if I do that 'immoderately' in your ever so grown-up eyes, suck it up! I'm a fan and (mostly) happy to be me.
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