| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport 07:56 - Mar 22 with 26641 views | bosh67 |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:18 - Mar 22 with 2343 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:27 - Mar 22 by isawqpratwcity |
Brighton, you advocate for the internment of a whole community, based solely on their religion...
"that gives good reason to introduce Internment for that Muslim community in that suburb of Brussels"
...and then describe some-one else's comment as "beyond stupid"?
Now I know you will think me unreasonable, so let me explain why I think your suggestion is totally out of order.
Not only is it wrong to imprison people who have not committed any crime, you want to imprison people who are not even suspected of committing any crime. We cannot even claim that these people owe any allegiance to a national government that we are in a state of war with.
The other reason is such a unilateral, unjust act would be heaven sent to radical Islam terrorists everywhere. Failure to respect moderate, law-abiding Muslims will only increase radical support. Don't feed their appetite for more Muslim embitterment with the West. |
Thing is, whilst the evidence doesn't exist to measure up to normal standards required for criminal conviction, they know exactly who these people are, what they are planning, who is hiding them, and that they hide amongst a sympathetic community who will happily riot when the police went into arrest the bloke last week. Why weren't the community out there applauding the police actions, all at risk of death, trying to prevent disgusting bombings like today? So yes, in an ideal world, I would agree, it is wrong to imprison or intern people without trial, but the reality on the ground and threat from that suburb, has been ongoing for over 6 years as a jihadist centre for operations which standards we normally apply cannot control.
So what do you do? I sincerely think Internment of Muslims in that community would be a difficult line to cross and would compromise all kinds of ideals and principles, but the alternative now is further bombings in the days and weeks ahead. Appeasement never works and to get a job done requires getting our hands dirty. That community has had ample opportunity to flush out the jihadists but continue to hide them to operate as today. |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:24 - Mar 22 with 2310 views | kensalriser |
Thing is Brighton, by your logic you'd also intern the population of Tottenham for coming on the streets to protest about the killing of Mark Duggan. There's a long history of certain communities supporting and harbouring criminals where those communities have a historic distrust and dislike of the police and authorities. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:26 - Mar 22 with 2300 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:18 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Thing is, whilst the evidence doesn't exist to measure up to normal standards required for criminal conviction, they know exactly who these people are, what they are planning, who is hiding them, and that they hide amongst a sympathetic community who will happily riot when the police went into arrest the bloke last week. Why weren't the community out there applauding the police actions, all at risk of death, trying to prevent disgusting bombings like today? So yes, in an ideal world, I would agree, it is wrong to imprison or intern people without trial, but the reality on the ground and threat from that suburb, has been ongoing for over 6 years as a jihadist centre for operations which standards we normally apply cannot control.
So what do you do? I sincerely think Internment of Muslims in that community would be a difficult line to cross and would compromise all kinds of ideals and principles, but the alternative now is further bombings in the days and weeks ahead. Appeasement never works and to get a job done requires getting our hands dirty. That community has had ample opportunity to flush out the jihadists but continue to hide them to operate as today. |
Unfortunately that is exactly the sort of thinking that these terrorists have about the West's 'opportunities to flush out our murderers'. In their eyes we just keep re electing them! |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:30 - Mar 22 with 2266 views | 1BobbyHazell |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:50 - Mar 22 by ingeminate |
Brighton, got a question for you old bean. A few actually.
On average in the UK two women are killed every week because of domestic violence.so roughly 730 a year. A call goes in to the old bill on average every minute.
So in the last ten years let's call it 7300, in the same time line in the UK I think I am right in saying one person has been killed by Islamic terrorists - Lee Rigby.
I in 3 women will suffer from it at some point.
What have you done about that as a man? What steps have you taken within your community of drinking mates, football mates, work colleagues? How many times have you contacted the police to ask them to take action based on a hunch, slip of the tongue? How many marches have you gone on to make it clear this is not happening in your name?
If you are like most people the answer to those questions is going to be not much and no.
Doesn't make you a monster, course it doesn't but what it does do is betray the double standards that you demand of another set of people.
Most people keep their head down and get on with life. And don't start quoting stats saying yeah but x percent of Muslims support terrorism. those surveys are 99% a crock of shit. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 21:17]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:32 - Mar 22 with 2253 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:44 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
I agree that it would tip Muslims towards ISIS .
IMO a large majority of Muslims are sympathetic to the cause of ISIS but disagree with the violent means in trying to achieve it .
Radicals hiding in plain sight in the Muslim community both here and it would appear in European Cities, large attendances at mosques where radical preaching takes place. As far as I know not one attack thwarted by information received from the Muslim community.
Platitudes after days like today are just empty words. |
"IMO a large majority of Muslims are sympathetic to the cause of ISIS but disagree with the violent means in trying to achieve it"
I think a lot of Muslims (I wouldn't necessarily describe them as a large majority) want more autonomy in their national governments. The West's attitude for the last century has been 'how do we maintain Middle-Eastern governments wholly sympathetic to our interests?' I do not equate that desire for independence with support for ISIS because ISIS has a violent and repressive core to it's philosophy, even to subject Muslims within it's 'borders', that most Muslims would find repugnant.
"Radicals hiding in plain sight in the Muslim community both here and it would appear in European Cities, large attendances at mosques where radical preaching takes place. As far as I know not one attack thwarted by information received from the Muslim community."
It depends on what you mean by 'radicals'. If you mean rabble-rousing preachers who stir up anti-Western sentiments, I would suggest they would walk a very fine line between that and actually breaking a law. If you mean criminal terrorists I don't believe they live in plain sight at all. I am sure that Britain very vigorously pursues terrorists, both potential and actual. I have read law enforcement spokesmen speaking of incidents avoided and the assistance of community information received. If that doesn't happen in Belgium then it is a failure of their internal security forces.
"Platitudes after days like today are just empty words."
No, quite the contrary. It is at times of pressure like these that you not only have to be diligent in protecting life and limb, you also have to remember what characterises our civilisation, and safeguard it both from without and within. I was gratified to hear author Tom Clancy, whose books usually carry a strong theme of America and American values prevailing by force, saying just one day after 9/11, "Please remember that America was founded upon Freedom of Religion." |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:33 - Mar 22 with 2246 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:50 - Mar 22 by ingeminate |
Brighton, got a question for you old bean. A few actually.
On average in the UK two women are killed every week because of domestic violence.so roughly 730 a year. A call goes in to the old bill on average every minute.
So in the last ten years let's call it 7300, in the same time line in the UK I think I am right in saying one person has been killed by Islamic terrorists - Lee Rigby.
I in 3 women will suffer from it at some point.
What have you done about that as a man? What steps have you taken within your community of drinking mates, football mates, work colleagues? How many times have you contacted the police to ask them to take action based on a hunch, slip of the tongue? How many marches have you gone on to make it clear this is not happening in your name?
If you are like most people the answer to those questions is going to be not much and no.
Doesn't make you a monster, course it doesn't but what it does do is betray the double standards that you demand of another set of people.
Most people keep their head down and get on with life. And don't start quoting stats saying yeah but x percent of Muslims support terrorism. those surveys are 99% a crock of shit. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 21:17]
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Interesting argument Ingeminate. I've not involved myself on so called domestic violence directly. On a similar theme here in Spain, some right proper nasty criminals hide out amongst the ex-pat Brit population all around the coasts in particular. I got a hunch about a neighbour, having heard him shouting knut at his wife aggressively, an English bloke, and did some simple google research and he turned up on Crimestoppers most wanted. He was isolated, people stopped giving him work and he had to go on the run again because several people, not me, reported him to UK police who did absolutely fck all. So if I had thought for a moment he was a terrorist capable of suicide bombing, yes I would report, without hesitation. So why aren't they? No double standards, why has that Muslim community allowed these scum to fester amongst them and provided hide outs, cover, etc etc allowing them to bomb like today?
I know Internment is a difficult subject, and you're right on those surveys, especially Daily Mail propoganda, and I certainly dont blame all Muslims, I do blame every single Muslim in that suburb because they are all culpable and all accountable for the bombers today. So I strongly think Internment is not just justifiable but necessary. In peace time certainly high standards for prosecution have to exist, especially in criminal cases as they do. Where a whole community is able to hide terrorists amongst themselves and evidence does not exist, especially in a time of war we are now in, there is absolute justification in setting those standards apart to isolate those preparing to bomb the public, AND those prepared to hide them and support them. IMHO | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:35 - Mar 22 with 2235 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:26 - Mar 22 by 1BobbyHazell |
Unfortunately that is exactly the sort of thinking that these terrorists have about the West's 'opportunities to flush out our murderers'. In their eyes we just keep re electing them! |
Yep, as I said earlier bombing Syria or anywhere else totally drives people to terrorism. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:36 - Mar 22 with 2213 views | Deano19766 |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:54 - Mar 22 by Juzzie |
Just waiting for #prayforbrussels all over social media.
Do people not realise the irony in all this #prayforxxxx crap? It's this whole religious schit that's causing all these problems in the first place.
RIP. |
I see the irony and I partly agree with you.
However, it is the human 'emotions' of greed, jealousy and envy that are the problem. With those emotions comes a thirst for power so that you can take control and tip the balance back in your favour. Humans have been at it for thousands of years (rape, pillage, war, etc, etc). There is always some reason or another put forward for it (religion, queen and country, yada yada yada), but at the end of the day it comes back to those emotions. It is only in very recent times that we in western society have become 'civilised' (and even that claim is quite laughable when you look at what still goes on these days) and so we find these acts in Brussels extremely disturbing. But, barring some absolute miracle which rids humans of greed, jealousy and envy, while you have humans you will always have these events occurring somewhere in the world. I don't believe there has been any point in history when this sh!te hasn't been going on somewhere. I find it all rather very sad [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 13:42]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:45 - Mar 22 with 2152 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:24 - Mar 22 by kensalriser |
Thing is Brighton, by your logic you'd also intern the population of Tottenham for coming on the streets to protest about the killing of Mark Duggan. There's a long history of certain communities supporting and harbouring criminals where those communities have a historic distrust and dislike of the police and authorities. |
Not comparable, Duggan and his sort keep the shootings largely amongst themselves. He wasn't a suicide bomber. The initial protest as they often are, re Duggan, was peaceful and asked for no further violence. That's never going to happen in Molenbeek and that's the problem. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:51 - Mar 22 with 2134 views | hopphoops |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 12:50 - Mar 22 by ingeminate |
Brighton, got a question for you old bean. A few actually.
On average in the UK two women are killed every week because of domestic violence.so roughly 730 a year. A call goes in to the old bill on average every minute.
So in the last ten years let's call it 7300, in the same time line in the UK I think I am right in saying one person has been killed by Islamic terrorists - Lee Rigby.
I in 3 women will suffer from it at some point.
What have you done about that as a man? What steps have you taken within your community of drinking mates, football mates, work colleagues? How many times have you contacted the police to ask them to take action based on a hunch, slip of the tongue? How many marches have you gone on to make it clear this is not happening in your name?
If you are like most people the answer to those questions is going to be not much and no.
Doesn't make you a monster, course it doesn't but what it does do is betray the double standards that you demand of another set of people.
Most people keep their head down and get on with life. And don't start quoting stats saying yeah but x percent of Muslims support terrorism. those surveys are 99% a crock of shit. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 21:17]
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Not sure about the numbers - lets not forget the London Tube bombings - but I agree with you.
It's a great mistake to act because 'you can't just sit there and do nothing'. These perpetrators are scum but that doesn't justify making things worse just to be seen to have acted. The dream of total security from wronguns is just that, a dream.
Most death cults and rebellions burn themselves out - most people don't want to blow themselves up - unless their motivations are further fuelled by scorched earth responses.
You've got to go back to your principles: rule of law. Feasible but fragile nationally, tougher internationally with e.g. the US only beginning to think about releasing data on civilian drone deaths. Criminalize actions not thoughts - possession of bomb-making materials, inciting racial hatred, the laws are i imagine all there and juries are fit to weigh probabilities. Just take the politics out of it, both the can't-touch-minorities and the nuke-em extremes, and throw the resources at the criminal justice response. The world will move on. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:02 - Mar 22 with 2074 views | TheBlob |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:57 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
FFS We are supposed to be safer because of that bunch of tossers.
I can name about 6 . I cannot vote out any . |
And the rhetoric begins.Safer in Europe,we are all Europeans blah,blah.
The poor victims aren't even cold yet ffs. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:02 - Mar 22 with 2073 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:57 - Mar 22 by essextaxiboy |
FFS We are supposed to be safer because of that bunch of tossers.
I can name about 6 . I cannot vote out any . |
Cameron?
I should also say I would lock up Blair as both a War Criminal and Christian Terrorist. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:12 - Mar 22 with 2030 views | Deano19766 |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:02 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Cameron?
I should also say I would lock up Blair as both a War Criminal and Christian Terrorist. |
Blair definitely should have been tried. And his fellow gangster Bush | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:13 - Mar 22 with 2025 views | essextaxiboy |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:02 - Mar 22 by TheBlob |
And the rhetoric begins.Safer in Europe,we are all Europeans blah,blah.
The poor victims aren't even cold yet ffs. |
I thought for a bit as to whether it would be crass to bring the Brexit debate in so quickly.
While the TV is full of finger pointing at the Belgian security forces I decided that it didnt mean a lack of respect to the dead and injured . |  | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:24 - Mar 22 with 1992 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:51 - Mar 22 by hopphoops |
Not sure about the numbers - lets not forget the London Tube bombings - but I agree with you.
It's a great mistake to act because 'you can't just sit there and do nothing'. These perpetrators are scum but that doesn't justify making things worse just to be seen to have acted. The dream of total security from wronguns is just that, a dream.
Most death cults and rebellions burn themselves out - most people don't want to blow themselves up - unless their motivations are further fuelled by scorched earth responses.
You've got to go back to your principles: rule of law. Feasible but fragile nationally, tougher internationally with e.g. the US only beginning to think about releasing data on civilian drone deaths. Criminalize actions not thoughts - possession of bomb-making materials, inciting racial hatred, the laws are i imagine all there and juries are fit to weigh probabilities. Just take the politics out of it, both the can't-touch-minorities and the nuke-em extremes, and throw the resources at the criminal justice response. The world will move on. |
7/7 was 2005. That may be apparently 'convenient' in terms of the 'one terrorist death' statistic quoted, but even if you bring in the 52 fatal victims of 7/7, it is still dwarfed by so many other causes of death and injury, criminal or otherwise.
Sudden, violent death of innocents is rightly to be condemned and strongly resisted by all, but keep perspective about the scale of the issue. | |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:37 - Mar 22 with 1959 views | paulparker |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:24 - Mar 22 by isawqpratwcity |
7/7 was 2005. That may be apparently 'convenient' in terms of the 'one terrorist death' statistic quoted, but even if you bring in the 52 fatal victims of 7/7, it is still dwarfed by so many other causes of death and injury, criminal or otherwise.
Sudden, violent death of innocents is rightly to be condemned and strongly resisted by all, but keep perspective about the scale of the issue. |
7/7 was 2005. That may be apparently 'convenient' in terms of the 'one terrorist death' statistic quoted, but even if you bring in the 52 fatal victims of 7/7, it is still dwarfed by so many other causes of death and injury, criminal or otherwise.
sorry but are we not moving on from the point in hand
we are in a middle of a terrorist war , we have sleeper cells all over this country and Europe, in the last couple of months or so we have had atrocities in paris & now Brussels , how long until London ? the enemy is within us, we cannot reason with these people we have to destroy them before they destroy us because this is going to get worse , we could end up with civil wars in the next 20 years in some parts of Europe because of these religious factions & possible divides
im sorry this is not the same as someone getting stabbed, a woman being beaten, raped etc they are all terrible crimes that have existed since the age of dawn , but they are dealt with by the police ,
this is different these people want to change the way we live our lives its a war not a crime |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:42 - Mar 22 with 1942 views | ingeminate |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 13:33 - Mar 22 by Brightonhoop |
Interesting argument Ingeminate. I've not involved myself on so called domestic violence directly. On a similar theme here in Spain, some right proper nasty criminals hide out amongst the ex-pat Brit population all around the coasts in particular. I got a hunch about a neighbour, having heard him shouting knut at his wife aggressively, an English bloke, and did some simple google research and he turned up on Crimestoppers most wanted. He was isolated, people stopped giving him work and he had to go on the run again because several people, not me, reported him to UK police who did absolutely fck all. So if I had thought for a moment he was a terrorist capable of suicide bombing, yes I would report, without hesitation. So why aren't they? No double standards, why has that Muslim community allowed these scum to fester amongst them and provided hide outs, cover, etc etc allowing them to bomb like today?
I know Internment is a difficult subject, and you're right on those surveys, especially Daily Mail propoganda, and I certainly dont blame all Muslims, I do blame every single Muslim in that suburb because they are all culpable and all accountable for the bombers today. So I strongly think Internment is not just justifiable but necessary. In peace time certainly high standards for prosecution have to exist, especially in criminal cases as they do. Where a whole community is able to hide terrorists amongst themselves and evidence does not exist, especially in a time of war we are now in, there is absolute justification in setting those standards apart to isolate those preparing to bomb the public, AND those prepared to hide them and support them. IMHO |
Appreciate your response, might seem a big niggly but why did you use the phrase "so called domestic abuse" instead of just domestic abuse - thought that was a bit weird? |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:08 - Mar 22 with 1858 views | Brightonhoop |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:42 - Mar 22 by ingeminate |
Appreciate your response, might seem a big niggly but why did you use the phrase "so called domestic abuse" instead of just domestic abuse - thought that was a bit weird? |
Nah not niggly at all, just experience, I was accused of domestic abuse by my embittered ex during the divorce and was arrested. Mortifying given my ol' Mum worked at Hillingdon Womens refuge/centre and I was brought up to abhor any kind of violence against women. I was held until my solicitor got there and repeatedly invited the CPS to prosecute, no case found and released. It is often misused, the law I mean on DV, in divorce cases by malicious exes and bent solicitors, dont take my word for it, many Womens groups now recognise it and are equally disgusted that the law made to protect women is misused by bent soliticors to enrich malicious wives filing for divorce and self enrichment.
Judge in my divorce saw straight through the dodgy accusations and I got a very generous settlement ultimately when I could have got nothing at all. Oh heady days. | | | |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:19 - Mar 22 with 1829 views | Discodroids |
The body of Human Knowledge Wiki, Informs me there have been 210 terrorist incidents this year up to today (including another one in Turkey today that hasn't made the airwaves yet).
How many involved Muslims or Quakers or Spartans or tribes of the Incas or The sioux red indians or even Samson lees brethren ?
Well all muslim except one .. in Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_January%E2%80%93June_
Im no Alan Turing or indeed A Dune Mentat but even Joey essex could factor the slightly weighted anomaly, in his tapered Jeans.
Maybe even a daily mail reader could. I know a guardian reader would. you can count on that. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 15:45]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:29 - Mar 22 with 1796 views | Dorse |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:19 - Mar 22 by Discodroids |
The body of Human Knowledge Wiki, Informs me there have been 210 terrorist incidents this year up to today (including another one in Turkey today that hasn't made the airwaves yet).
How many involved Muslims or Quakers or Spartans or tribes of the Incas or The sioux red indians or even Samson lees brethren ?
Well all muslim except one .. in Ireland.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_terrorist_incidents,_January%E2%80%93June_
Im no Alan Turing or indeed A Dune Mentat but even Joey essex could factor the slightly weighted anomaly, in his tapered Jeans.
Maybe even a daily mail reader could. I know a guardian reader would. you can count on that. [Post edited 22 Mar 2016 15:45]
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:33 - Mar 22 with 1777 views | aston_hoop |
RIP to all those who have lost their lives at the hands of cowards. Currently it seems to be humans committing these kind of atrocities, be it bombing campaigns in European cities by Muslims or the ethnic cleansing of Muslims in Central Africa by Christians, its about time we clamped down on humans before this gets out of hand. |  |
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| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 15:42 - Mar 22 with 1730 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Two explosions this morning at Brussels Airport on 14:37 - Mar 22 by paulparker |
7/7 was 2005. That may be apparently 'convenient' in terms of the 'one terrorist death' statistic quoted, but even if you bring in the 52 fatal victims of 7/7, it is still dwarfed by so many other causes of death and injury, criminal or otherwise.
sorry but are we not moving on from the point in hand
we are in a middle of a terrorist war , we have sleeper cells all over this country and Europe, in the last couple of months or so we have had atrocities in paris & now Brussels , how long until London ? the enemy is within us, we cannot reason with these people we have to destroy them before they destroy us because this is going to get worse , we could end up with civil wars in the next 20 years in some parts of Europe because of these religious factions & possible divides
im sorry this is not the same as someone getting stabbed, a woman being beaten, raped etc they are all terrible crimes that have existed since the age of dawn , but they are dealt with by the police ,
this is different these people want to change the way we live our lives its a war not a crime |
That word 'war' is a problem. Who is that 'war' against?
Wiktionary definition of 'war':
"war ‎(countable and uncountable, plural wars)
1. (uncountable) Organized, large-scale, armed conflict between countries or between national, ethnic, or other sizeable groups, usually involving the engagement of military forces.
The war was largely between Sunni and Shia militants.‎
2. (countable) A particular conflict of this kind.
3. (countable) By extension, any conflict, or anything resembling a conflict.
You look like you've been through the wars.‎
3.1 (figuratively) A campaign against something.
The "war on drugs" is a campaign against the use of narcotic drugs.
The "war on terror" is a campaign against terrorist crime."
(Emphasis added by me for comparison.)
I prefer to characterise the fight against terrorism as a serious criminal issue against organised individuals who have strong religious and political motivation, to the point where innocent lives or even their own lives have no regard. I don't mean to diminish it by that description, I only want to more accurately describe the problem. There is no question that the problem requires intense effort and resources of the State., but there is no need for recourse outside the legislation of the State, as might be the case in an actual war.
As a comparison, I believe it was Richard Nixon who first used the phrase 'the war on drugs'. Back in the '60s and '70s drug trafficking was a rapidly expanding problem that governments struggled against. Of course it differs in that drug trafficking is entirely about profit, and no businessman sets out to kill his target market, but even you would have to agree that drugs kill many times more people than terrorism does, and there is certainly a lot more organisation in the country devoted to drug trafficking than terrorism, sleeper cells or not.
It doesn't help getting emotive and losing perspective. Focus on the problem and deal with it intelligently. | |
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