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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 22:09 1 Sep 2017
Sorry mate you have missed my point completely. My point was that we need scouts to identify talented player which we can acquire at reasonable fees and to give us lots of options so we don't hit a brick wall when West Brom want silly money for Chadli for example.
Also you are wrong we do have a scouting team headed by David leabeater. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 13:19 1 Sep 2017
I agree with you. We shouldn't pay over the odds. I have to wonder though about our scouting because we had ages while the Sigurdsson thing was pending to identify targets. If Chadli turned out to be too expensive I wanted us to be pursuing option B, option C etc. If we can't identify reasonably priced quality then our scouting needs an overhaul in my opinion. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 12:24 1 Sep 2017
I just worry that if we can't get two equally good loanees in next season then we will need to spend a fair bit on two players just to maintain the current squad standard. It's also worrying if we need to make a profit to balance the books. We get £80 mil a year in tv revenue, it seems a bit crazy to me that we can't spend a bit more on the squad. We are one of 5 premier league teams to make a profit this window and actually we made the most profit of anyone. This tells me others are spending and I would have perhaps preferred to buy our own to develop and sell on at a profit than to pay others to develop their players and end up with a hole in the squad that needs filling next season.
I'm not convinced we will sign anyone in January unless we are forced to through injuries and/or poor form.
For the record I'm not pessimistic about the season ahead and I'm looking forward to seeing Bony back and how Sanches gets on. I just can't help feel we have missed a trick this window. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 01:16 1 Sep 2017
I'll have to agree to disagree mate. I do want a bigger stadium and a more hostile atmosphere for away teams. I don't think it would have a bearing on the players we could attract though, unless you are talking 50k+ capacity. I think players in general care about wages and playing at the highest level possible. That's why the best ones want to go to the top teams, they pay the best and play in the champions league.
I'm all for developing additional revenue streams but I think the gain in revenue from an expanded stadium is minimal. The additional revenue would certainly take years to make back the money spent on the expansion.
Right I'm knackered so goodnight all. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 01:10 1 Sep 2017
I'm. It saying wonder kids I'm saying talent hungry younger players. I mean shit if we can get £12m for a 32 year old striker then in this market we can make money by shrewd investments. I take your point about maybe the ability of the swans to attract talented younger players at reasonable prices though.
I'm not advocating we throw money at bad value I'm just advocating more investment in the playing staff.
I'd just like to clarify I'm not pessimistic about the season, I just think we have missed a trick by not investing more in the playing staff. I expect as a minimum a lower mid table finish but don't expect us to be in a relegation dog fight.
I diasagree that Siggy was slow, tedious and boring lol. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 00:49 1 Sep 2017
You are entitled to your opinion but just a few points if I may.
1) there's nothing ludicrous about simply having a different opinion of where the surplus should be spent. Personally I want to see more poured into the playing staff. If you buy the right players you make big money from them - rinse and repeat. Eventually you have a much better squad. There is also nothing pessimistic about feeling gutted that the money isn't invested in this manner. The new TV deal has meant that other premier league clubs are spending more and in a bit concerned the quality in their squads will gradually start outstripping the quality in ours.
2) I see very little link between wages and the championship class (as you put it) stadium. Stadiums contribute very little in terms of overall revenue. The main benefit in improving the stadium is allowing more fans to attend and great more of a hostile atmosphere for visiting teams.
Please don't confuse a different approach to things as having a short term viewpoint. I think we have invested a lot in the club infrastructure in recent years to the detriment of the squad and it is about time we invested a little more in the team. For instance whilst I love the quality of these loanees isn't there an arguement that they are just players which will do a job for a year, develop as better players for their parent clubs and cost us a few million in loan fees. We will still need to replace them in one years time. Wouldn't it be better to have spent the cash on talented hungry young players who we do not NEED to replace in a year and who will increase in value and make us even more money in the long run.
Just my 2 cents is all |
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Reply | Has Bony signed?
at 23:47 31 Aug 2017
Fair point but I feel we only spend in January because we were up shit creek without a paddle. Realistically we should be spending money at least some transfer windows. You could even put together a case for us spending another £20 mil on top of the surplus £20-30m.
If all the money is going to be sensibly reinvested in the facilities, stadium etc then fine but I seriously doubt that will happen. I hope I'm wrong and that we have a great season. |
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Reply | Well that's it then.
at 23:38 31 Aug 2017
I tell you what chaps. I don't care who disagrees with me here. But this evening I've faced the horrible truth which is that the board are going to use this club as their own private ATM. I was so hopeful this morning that we would get Sanches, Bony, Chadli and possibly Arias too. Clement told us he was looking to get two players in. Well we will get Sanches and Bony but we have lost Llorente. They owe us a player really.
Also why have we no ambition?
In:
Mesa £11m
Clucas £15m
Bony £12m
Sanches £4.5m
Total: £42.5m
Out:
Cork: £10m
Gomis: must be at least £3m
LLorente: £12m
Sigurdsson: £40
Total: £65m
Net spend: - £22.5m
Also Ki Haley and Barrow making a total profit of £27.5m
We had a great chance here to push on and have a great little squad but I fear it's all about profit and nothing else. I'm furious. It is purely a business to the owners and I feel cheated. |
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Reply | Has Bony signed?
at 23:25 31 Aug 2017
You are right it's even worse , £27.5m profit. Disgusting. |
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Reply | Has Bony signed?
at 23:18 31 Aug 2017
I tell you what chaps. I don't care who disagrees with me here. But this evening I've faced the horrible truth which is that the board are going to use this club as their own private ATM. I was so hopeful this morning that we would get Sanches, Bony, Chadli and possibly Arias too. Clement told us he was looking to get two players in. Well we will get Sanches and Bony but we have lost Llorente. They owe us a player really.
Also why have we no ambition?
In:
Mesa £11m
Clucas £15m
Bony £12m
Sanches £4.5m
Total: £42.5m
Out:
Cork: £10m
Gomis: must be at least £3m
LLorente: £12m
Sigurdsson: £40
Total: £65m
Net spend: - £22.5m
We had a great chance here to push on and have a great little squad but I fear it's all about profit and nothing else. I'm furious. |
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Reply | Siggy's replacement
at 06:01 17 Aug 2017
Honestly I think along with the number of different managers the amount we spent last season left us in a lot of trouble. The new TV deal kicking in meant everyone was spending a lot more and we spent less.
At this stage I have serious reservations about our chances for the season and the ambition of the board. Don't get me wrong I feel under clement we will have fight and organisation and avoid the drop but unless he gets some reinforcements that's about all we can expect.
We are in a situation now where our net spend for the season is probably -£43 million. I know that bargain buys (I'm thinking Mawson) are a possibility albeit a remote one but in general I think we should be having a net spend of at the very least £20 million a season. At this point for the right players I would like to see us splash around £63 million. I have no hope this will happen though unfortunately and any replacements have no time to settle in and gel on the field as the season has begun, which is very disappointing. We used to do our business early. |
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