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National League Cup Groups 16:09 - Sep 19 with 15409 viewsdale1968

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Group A
Brighton & Hove Albion
Fulham
Reading
Southampton
Aldershot Town
Maidenhead United
Wealdstone
Woking

Group B
Blackburn Rovers
Manchester United
Stoke City
Wolverhampton Wanderers
Altrincham
Forest Green Rovers
Oldham Athletic
Rochdale

Group C
Leeds United
Middlesbrough
Newcastle United
Sunderland
Boston United
Gateshead
FC Halifax Town
Tamworth

Group D
Nottingham Forest
Tottenham Hotspur
West Bromwich Albion
West Ham United
Braintree Town
Dagenham & Redbridge
Ebbsfleet United
Sutton United

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National League Cup Groups on 20:26 - Sep 20 with 3465 views442Dale

https://eastleighfc.com/2024/09/statement-the-national-league-cup/

This statement from tomorrow’s opponents has a different tone.

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National League Cup Groups on 20:36 - Sep 20 with 3435 viewsJames1980

'By entering, we now are in the same number of competitions as when we were an EFL club, with the National League Cup replacing the EFL Trophy, and the FA Trophy replacing the EFL Cup.'

From the club statement

'Only happy when you've got it often makes you miss the journey'
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National League Cup Groups on 21:22 - Sep 20 with 3365 viewsD_Alien

National League Cup Groups on 20:26 - Sep 20 by 442Dale

https://eastleighfc.com/2024/09/statement-the-national-league-cup/

This statement from tomorrow’s opponents has a different tone.


Regarding the point about squad size, which the two statements take contrasting views on:

There's not much logic in justifying a larger squad than would otherwise have been the case just to cover for this competition

A larger Dale squad this season means we may have more cover for injuries, suspensions etc but also means a certain amount of juggling to keep the whole squad match-ready

By all means justify a larger squad for those intentions, but not to allow us to participate in a meaningless competition

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National League Cup Groups on 21:43 - Sep 20 with 3330 views442Dale

There’s also a contrast in the statements around the financial aspect.

Presumably Dale can clarify exactly how much money they have currently forecast to make from the competition factoring in possible fluctuations in crowd sizes.

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National League Cup Groups on 11:47 - Sep 21 with 2990 viewsDalenet

National League Cup Groups on 20:26 - Sep 20 by 442Dale

https://eastleighfc.com/2024/09/statement-the-national-league-cup/

This statement from tomorrow’s opponents has a different tone.


This reflects what was being said by many clubs in late summer when the FA Cup replays were abandoned because Premier League Clubs wanted to send players across the world to play in other tornaments to make more money. I tend to believe in everything said in this statement. But if our owners are happy to take the financial risks, then who are we to disagree.
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National League Cup Groups on 15:29 - Sep 26 with 2529 viewsEllDale

Have any Dale fixtures been announced for this competition yet?
I’m only asking because Halifax are playing Newcastle in it next Tuesday night.
£12 admission for adults and £10 for concessions.
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National League Cup Groups on 15:36 - Sep 26 with 2504 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 15:29 - Sep 26 by EllDale

Have any Dale fixtures been announced for this competition yet?
I’m only asking because Halifax are playing Newcastle in it next Tuesday night.
£12 admission for adults and £10 for concessions.


More clubs have now withdrawn from the competition.
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National League Cup Groups on 15:46 - Sep 26 with 2433 viewsBigKindo

National League Cup Groups on 15:36 - Sep 26 by TalkingSutty

More clubs have now withdrawn from the competition.


Who?
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National League Cup Groups on 16:02 - Sep 26 with 2364 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 15:46 - Sep 26 by BigKindo

Who?


Reading, Eastleigh. I think there are now eight clubs in the National League who have withdrawn from the competition.
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National League Cup Groups on 16:20 - Sep 26 with 2305 viewsTVOS1907

National League Cup Groups on 16:02 - Sep 26 by TalkingSutty

Reading, Eastleigh. I think there are now eight clubs in the National League who have withdrawn from the competition.
[Post edited 26 Sep 16:06]


Eastleigh were in the original eight who declined to take part. Reading have since withdrawn.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National League Cup Groups on 16:33 - Oct 1 with 1651 viewsBigKindo

https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/national-league-cup-fixtures-confirmed/
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National League Cup Groups on 20:23 - Oct 1 with 1439 viewsEllDale

First round of games tonight and the competition is so important that the BBC website isn’t carrying the scores.
Has no one told them?
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National League Cup Groups on 20:39 - Oct 1 with 1387 views442Dale

Looking at Oldham’s Twitter, it appears injury issues have already cropped up.
They only charged £1 for ST holders, £5 for everyone else.

I noticed we released the dates of our games earlier, no confirmed prices yet. Hopefully by Nov 5th we’ll have agreed on no more than a couple of quid and accepted playing first team players would be ridiculous.

https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/national-league-cup-fixtures-confirmed/

Are there any rules on who has to play?

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National League Cup Groups on 21:06 - Oct 1 with 1325 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 20:39 - Oct 1 by 442Dale

Looking at Oldham’s Twitter, it appears injury issues have already cropped up.
They only charged £1 for ST holders, £5 for everyone else.

I noticed we released the dates of our games earlier, no confirmed prices yet. Hopefully by Nov 5th we’ll have agreed on no more than a couple of quid and accepted playing first team players would be ridiculous.

https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/national-league-cup-fixtures-confirmed/

Are there any rules on who has to play?


Oldham won 2-1..a first team player sent off and another one went off injured. Attendance of 455, £1 entrance for season ticket holders. Described as a terrible night by one Oldham fan.
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National League Cup Groups on 21:28 - Oct 1 with 1271 viewsEllDale

Halifax lost 2-1 to Newcastle.
No attendance given which isn’t surprising given the ticket prices.
Local paper described their team has having “an experimental lineup” and there being “a non-existent atmosphere”.
Oh, and Halifax had a player sent off as well.
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National League Cup Groups on 21:32 - Oct 1 with 1262 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 21:28 - Oct 1 by EllDale

Halifax lost 2-1 to Newcastle.
No attendance given which isn’t surprising given the ticket prices.
Local paper described their team has having “an experimental lineup” and there being “a non-existent atmosphere”.
Oh, and Halifax had a player sent off as well.


It seems as though red cards in this competition don't count in respect of league games and i think the National League teams have to field a minimum of four first team players for a minimum of fifteen minutes...something like that anyway. It's all very bizarre. There's been some Micky Mouse competitions down the years but this one wins the gold medal.
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National League Cup Groups on 21:37 - Oct 1 with 1243 viewsEllDale

So what’s the point of this competition and who exactly gains anything from it?
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National League Cup Groups on 21:46 - Oct 1 with 1230 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 21:37 - Oct 1 by EllDale

So what’s the point of this competition and who exactly gains anything from it?


The National League Clubs have received a payment each to compete in these games i think, probably enough to cover hosting the games. It's designed as a sweetener from the big clubs to compensate the small clubs after the decision to end FA Cup replays. It also gives the big clubs a opportunity to give their fringe and younger players a taste of men's football. They also expect the fans to turn up and pay to watch B team/ reserve players in a meaningless contest. It's a bit like when the big fat butcher throws out some bones for the stray dogs to fight over, we should all be grateful.
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National League Cup Groups on 21:51 - Oct 1 with 1211 viewsTVOS1907

National League Cup Groups on 20:39 - Oct 1 by 442Dale

Looking at Oldham’s Twitter, it appears injury issues have already cropped up.
They only charged £1 for ST holders, £5 for everyone else.

I noticed we released the dates of our games earlier, no confirmed prices yet. Hopefully by Nov 5th we’ll have agreed on no more than a couple of quid and accepted playing first team players would be ridiculous.

https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/national-league-cup-fixtures-confirmed/

Are there any rules on who has to play?


Four players who started the previous league match (or who will play in the next league match!!) have to start.

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National League Cup Groups on 21:53 - Oct 1 with 1197 views442Dale

And yet they’re promoting how it’s all free to watch on NLTV! Almost encouraging non-attendance to the point it could all be played behind closed doors to cut down on costs.

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National League Cup Groups on 22:02 - Oct 1 with 1171 views442Dale

National League Cup Groups on 21:51 - Oct 1 by TVOS1907

Four players who started the previous league match (or who will play in the next league match!!) have to start.


What if the players you were going to pick in the next league match get injured? Does that then mean we’d have to pick some of the other 7 starters rather than others and thus deliberately play a weakened team in a league match?!

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National League Cup Groups on 22:05 - Oct 1 with 1155 viewsTalkingSutty

National League Cup Groups on 21:53 - Oct 1 by 442Dale

And yet they’re promoting how it’s all free to watch on NLTV! Almost encouraging non-attendance to the point it could all be played behind closed doors to cut down on costs.


Exactly, it's all very bizarre. Finding tonight's fixtures and results isn't easy, they aren't listed on the Sky App, not sure about the BBC

Halifax attendance..292.
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National League Cup Groups on 22:18 - Oct 1 with 1102 viewsTVOS1907

National League Cup Groups on 22:02 - Oct 1 by 442Dale

What if the players you were going to pick in the next league match get injured? Does that then mean we’d have to pick some of the other 7 starters rather than others and thus deliberately play a weakened team in a league match?!


Who knows?

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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National League Cup Groups on 22:25 - Oct 1 with 1081 viewsleedsdale

National League Cup Groups on 20:39 - Oct 1 by 442Dale

Looking at Oldham’s Twitter, it appears injury issues have already cropped up.
They only charged £1 for ST holders, £5 for everyone else.

I noticed we released the dates of our games earlier, no confirmed prices yet. Hopefully by Nov 5th we’ll have agreed on no more than a couple of quid and accepted playing first team players would be ridiculous.

https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/national-league-cup-fixtures-confirmed/

Are there any rules on who has to play?


Oldham subbed Otis Khan after 15 minutes when he wasn’t injured. It seems there may also be a rule about these 4 players having to only play a quarter of an hour as a minimum.
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National League Cup Groups on 02:35 - Oct 2 with 948 viewsSandyman

Why did we ever get involved in this debacle? https://rochdaleafc.co.uk/our-position-on-the-national-league-cup/ is as unconvincing as it gets. Should the weather be Rochdaleish it's going to knacker the pitch unnecessarily.

We can watch for free online at home, or for next to nowt admission. Nobody cares how we do in this farce of a competition - it's just pointless, with potential injury risks that don't bare thinking about.

Looks like Shaymen and BIFFO's have voted with their feet, as we no doubt will.

We could show it for free in Ratcliffes which could ironically serve our finances better than attending one of these games if fans can have a few drinks in there whilst the match is being played!

Plain daft.
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