| Bibby Stockholm. 19:05 - Jul 23 with 2709 views | Flashberryjack |
The Bibby Stockholm barge is to close, Rwanda plan abandoned, 20 boats arrived this week, we better get building, and fast. |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 14:07 - Jul 26 with 890 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 13:17 - Jul 26 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think not renewing of the Bibby Stockholm is down to conditions, more than the end of a very expensive contract used to show how ‘tough’ the tories were being. |
No doubt they will be put up in even more expensive hotels like Strady Park at taxpayers expensive. |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 15:27 - Jul 26 with 864 views | AnotherJohn |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 13:17 - Jul 26 by Gwyn737 |
I don’t think not renewing of the Bibby Stockholm is down to conditions, more than the end of a very expensive contract used to show how ‘tough’ the tories were being. |
But I am just pointing to an issue of capacity against a background of growing demand for indoor beds. Witness what is happening in Ireland with tents only provided to some single men. It seems to me the political argument works both ways, so that the non-renewal of the BS contract was a sop to a certain section of progressive opinion, But at a time when there is a real issue of where people will sleep does it make sense to lose 500 places? | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 17:28 - Jul 26 with 796 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 15:27 - Jul 26 by AnotherJohn |
But I am just pointing to an issue of capacity against a background of growing demand for indoor beds. Witness what is happening in Ireland with tents only provided to some single men. It seems to me the political argument works both ways, so that the non-renewal of the BS contract was a sop to a certain section of progressive opinion, But at a time when there is a real issue of where people will sleep does it make sense to lose 500 places? |
There’s a lot of worse places to live than the Bibby Stockholm. Got its own gym, on board bar, pool tables, canteen, games room. |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 18:01 - Jul 26 with 771 views | controversial_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 13:23 - Jul 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK has a welfare state. It is a huge draw for predominantly Muslim people coming from failed or unsuccessful states
Easy migration means the welfare state is put under pressure. Illegal immigrants cannot be given a free pass to these benefits unconditionally. It must be earned by doing the jobs seen as unpopular in the UK such as agriculture.
A three or five year period. |
Wrong! The UK doesn't have a particularly good welfare state. Many European countries have better
Illegals do not get benefits
Migrants want to work not take benefits.
You are wrong on every point | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 19:39 - Jul 26 with 726 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 18:01 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
Wrong! The UK doesn't have a particularly good welfare state. Many European countries have better
Illegals do not get benefits
Migrants want to work not take benefits.
You are wrong on every point |
UK by global standards is excellent. Illegals get benefits.
what benefits?
a) Food b) Homes c) Allowances.
Migrants come here for a better life. Betters schools, better health service better work prospects. Migrants are not charged for Schools or health services.
In many countries you have to pay for these services with insurance. The service is not great .
Illegal migrant want to work but cannot. So why have they they left France? |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 20:38 - Jul 26 with 683 views | Wingstandwood |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 19:39 - Jul 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK by global standards is excellent. Illegals get benefits.
what benefits?
a) Food b) Homes c) Allowances.
Migrants come here for a better life. Betters schools, better health service better work prospects. Migrants are not charged for Schools or health services.
In many countries you have to pay for these services with insurance. The service is not great .
Illegal migrant want to work but cannot. So why have they they left France? |
QUOTE: "EXCLUSIVE: Asylum seeker who chronicled his journey from France to UK on TikTok is now living in 'ultra chic, sophisticated' four-star hotel with the 'cosiest beds in London' where rooms cost £241 a night and taxpayers are footing the bill."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12440613/Asylum-seeker-chronicled-journ
Yep thats at a cost of £241 X's 365 days of a year ='s £87,865 annual cost. That'll deter em from coming.
Next up? Queue jumping social housing provision using the very homes that Labour wants to build? Aye, what another detterent hey! |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 21:07 - Jul 26 with 646 views | controversial_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 19:39 - Jul 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK by global standards is excellent. Illegals get benefits.
what benefits?
a) Food b) Homes c) Allowances.
Migrants come here for a better life. Betters schools, better health service better work prospects. Migrants are not charged for Schools or health services.
In many countries you have to pay for these services with insurance. The service is not great .
Illegal migrant want to work but cannot. So why have they they left France? |
https://fullfact.org/immigration/illegal-immigrant-benefits-access/
Hardly an incentive to come here | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 21:22 - Jul 26 with 630 views | Flashberryjack |
Why do you think they are paying ££££ and risking their lives crossing the channel in small boats to come here from from France, which is a safe country?
They are not coming here for the weather that's for sure. | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 22:35 - Jul 26 with 586 views | controversial_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 21:22 - Jul 26 by Flashberryjack |
Why do you think they are paying ££££ and risking their lives crossing the channel in small boats to come here from from France, which is a safe country?
They are not coming here for the weather that's for sure. |
The vast majority are not coming here. We only get a small proportion compared to other countries. | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 07:40 - Jul 27 with 548 views | Boundy |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 22:35 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
The vast majority are not coming here. We only get a small proportion compared to other countries. |
Woukdn't you agree we shouldn't be having any illegal immigration ? | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 09:23 - Jul 27 with 534 views | Gwyn737 |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 07:40 - Jul 27 by Boundy |
Woukdn't you agree we shouldn't be having any illegal immigration ? |
Absolutely.
One of the reasons we’ve all the people stuck in temporary accommodation such as the Bobby Stockholm is the lack of processing which means we don’t if they’re illegal or not.
And the ridiculous Tory bill means they’re stuck here. At least for now. | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:17 - Jul 27 with 522 views | Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 09:23 - Jul 27 by Gwyn737 |
Absolutely.
One of the reasons we’ve all the people stuck in temporary accommodation such as the Bobby Stockholm is the lack of processing which means we don’t if they’re illegal or not.
And the ridiculous Tory bill means they’re stuck here. At least for now. |
There’s a lack of processing because the traffickers take all the documentation and destroy it so there’s no way of finding out who these people are or where they’ve come from.
Thousands of them are just absconding into the ether we have no idea who they are or where they’ve gone. | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:34 - Jul 27 with 511 views | controversial_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 07:40 - Jul 27 by Boundy |
Woukdn't you agree we shouldn't be having any illegal immigration ? |
We get asylum seekers, the illegals we don't know about as they disappear into society until they are caught | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:38 - Jul 27 with 509 views | raynor94 |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 22:35 - Jul 26 by controversial_jack |
The vast majority are not coming here. We only get a small proportion compared to other countries. |
Still far to many in my opinion |  |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:55 - Jul 27 with 498 views | Boundy |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 17:28 - Jul 26 by Joesus_Of_Narbereth |
There’s a lot of worse places to live than the Bibby Stockholm. Got its own gym, on board bar, pool tables, canteen, games room. |
Yeah like living in £20 pound tent looking for handouts by the local populace who don't want them there either. Poor dabs | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:59 - Jul 27 with 493 views | controversial_jack |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:38 - Jul 27 by raynor94 |
Still far to many in my opinion |
Not much you can do really.It's not illegal to cross the channel and land on any beach anywhere. What happens next depends if they apply for asylum or just disappear | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 14:55 - Jul 27 with 446 views | Boundy |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 10:59 - Jul 27 by controversial_jack |
Not much you can do really.It's not illegal to cross the channel and land on any beach anywhere. What happens next depends if they apply for asylum or just disappear |
Really ,try that in Australia for example. | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 15:01 - Jul 27 with 444 views | onehunglow |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 14:55 - Jul 27 by Boundy |
Really ,try that in Australia for example. |
Just looked at this title and thought it was relating to a Swedish gymnast | |
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| Bibby Stockholm. on 18:29 - Jul 27 with 363 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 13:23 - Jul 26 by ReslovenSwan1 |
UK has a welfare state. It is a huge draw for predominantly Muslim people coming from failed or unsuccessful states
Easy migration means the welfare state is put under pressure. Illegal immigrants cannot be given a free pass to these benefits unconditionally. It must be earned by doing the jobs seen as unpopular in the UK such as agriculture.
A three or five year period. |
A lot of people, myself included would agree with you there. The vociferous minority will see it never happens though.
The welfare state should only be for people who have paid into it, any immigrant should have to find work, any illegal immigrant should be sent back, genuine asylum seekers and refugees, that's a large can of worms that nobody seems to agree on. | | | |
| Bibby Stockholm. on 18:52 - Jul 27 with 339 views | Boundy |
That's not what you posted now is it. | |
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