| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC 12:21 - Feb 18 with 10923 views | fitzochris |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 12:37 - Feb 18 with 7640 views | Sandyman |
Hits the nail on the head perfectly. Especially the final sentence. Thanks, Mark (and Fitz) |  | | |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 12:46 - Feb 18 with 7600 views | D_Alien |
Superb, one might almost say prescient...
And the term "pseudo-possession" - so precise, those responsible should feel cut to pieces just reading it |  |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 12:52 - Feb 18 with 7571 views | kel |
Belting read that and sums up how I’ve felt for the last few weeks. It’s taken me a while to see what’s going on (off the pitch especially) but something needs to change, and quick.
Thanks too for the learning of a new word - apocryphal. |  | | |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:03 - Feb 18 with 7494 views | TomRAFC |
Superb piece involving two people held in especially high esteem at the moment. The club would do well to develop the ability to write statements even a quarter as good as this.
Will BBM be sacked? Or be allowed to run the risk and have his contract expire? Either way, a stronger willed manager (e.g. Cook / Holloway) may be able to give the club a kick up the backside, on and off the field.
Extending BBM’s contract because he managed to keep us up, or even if he takes us down whilst we are developing our "philosophy", will leave us with an unwieldy tanker of a club with little clarity as to how it could be turned around. Bloated with staff, all of whom seem very "nice", and not in the good way. One can’t help but wonder who the decision maker is in it all; someone is certainly making a whole host of decisions.
This brings the spotlight on to the board as a whole. An absent chairman who is a longstanding shareholder isn't the worst deal in the world, depending on who is left running the show in his absence. Is our CEO a much maligned fan with transferable skills? Or a suspect fellow out of nowhere, overconfident despite his lack of previous experience running a football club? Public opinion suggests a Tarzan like ability on his part to swing between the two. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 15:52]
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:07 - Feb 18 with 7469 views | judd |
As ever, Mark's forensic and surgically precise examination and observation of the club is a joy to read.
Thanks for writing it up, Mark, and for Fitzo sharing it.
He is certainly crediting the Chairman with the leftfield strategy. |  |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:18 - Feb 18 with 7418 views | golfaduffy |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:03 - Feb 18 by TomRAFC |
Superb piece involving two people held in especially high esteem at the moment. The club would do well to develop the ability to write statements even a quarter as good as this.
Will BBM be sacked? Or be allowed to run the risk and have his contract expire? Either way, a stronger willed manager (e.g. Cook / Holloway) may be able to give the club a kick up the backside, on and off the field.
Extending BBM’s contract because he managed to keep us up, or even if he takes us down whilst we are developing our "philosophy", will leave us with an unwieldy tanker of a club with little clarity as to how it could be turned around. Bloated with staff, all of whom seem very "nice", and not in the good way. One can’t help but wonder who the decision maker is in it all; someone is certainly making a whole host of decisions.
This brings the spotlight on to the board as a whole. An absent chairman who is a longstanding shareholder isn't the worst deal in the world, depending on who is left running the show in his absence. Is our CEO a much maligned fan with transferable skills? Or a suspect fellow out of nowhere, overconfident despite his lack of previous experience running a football club? Public opinion suggests a Tarzan like ability on his part to swing between the two. [Post edited 18 Feb 2021 15:52]
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The Chairman is not a "longstanding shareholder" having inherited his shares from his late father. I'm not entirely sure if he has put any additional money into the club, but would be interested to find out.
The CEO is a long standing supporter, but has a "dubious business history" and in many peoples views comes across as an egotist. He also had little previous experience within a football club before he mysteriously replaced the capable James Mason, who was very highly thought of. This was around the time that Chris Dunphy rather rapidly stepped down , sending shockwaves around footballing circles.
I fear for BBM, not only because of recent results and his awful team selections, but also because he may be sacked or replaced in all but name in order to deflect the flak from the real issues. | | | |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:29 - Feb 18 with 7347 views | judd |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:18 - Feb 18 by golfaduffy |
The Chairman is not a "longstanding shareholder" having inherited his shares from his late father. I'm not entirely sure if he has put any additional money into the club, but would be interested to find out.
The CEO is a long standing supporter, but has a "dubious business history" and in many peoples views comes across as an egotist. He also had little previous experience within a football club before he mysteriously replaced the capable James Mason, who was very highly thought of. This was around the time that Chris Dunphy rather rapidly stepped down , sending shockwaves around footballing circles.
I fear for BBM, not only because of recent results and his awful team selections, but also because he may be sacked or replaced in all but name in order to deflect the flak from the real issues. |
Mr Dunphy left before Mr Mason was replaced. | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:29 - Feb 18 with 7346 views | D_Alien |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:18 - Feb 18 by golfaduffy |
The Chairman is not a "longstanding shareholder" having inherited his shares from his late father. I'm not entirely sure if he has put any additional money into the club, but would be interested to find out.
The CEO is a long standing supporter, but has a "dubious business history" and in many peoples views comes across as an egotist. He also had little previous experience within a football club before he mysteriously replaced the capable James Mason, who was very highly thought of. This was around the time that Chris Dunphy rather rapidly stepped down , sending shockwaves around footballing circles.
I fear for BBM, not only because of recent results and his awful team selections, but also because he may be sacked or replaced in all but name in order to deflect the flak from the real issues. |
As the real issues emerge and a distinct "Emperor's New Clothes" atmosphere takes hold among the Dale fanbase (or at least a significant number), it's unlikely that we'll allow any deflection to occur. Whether we've supported for fifty-plus years or five, tenacity isn't something we'll ever be found lacking in
There's a 300+ page thread on here that says once we've seen how things stack up, we don't let go | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:57 - Feb 18 with 7230 views | electricblue |
Extremely well written and above all else says what Dale supporters have being saying for a wee while...... |  |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:10 - Feb 18 with 7180 views | James1980 |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 13:29 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
As the real issues emerge and a distinct "Emperor's New Clothes" atmosphere takes hold among the Dale fanbase (or at least a significant number), it's unlikely that we'll allow any deflection to occur. Whether we've supported for fifty-plus years or five, tenacity isn't something we'll ever be found lacking in
There's a 300+ page thread on here that says once we've seen how things stack up, we don't let go |
Why does any form of ambition have to equal becoming like Bury and then going bust? I get the caution but it seems like idea's are just shot down in flames. What do people genuinely and realistically want? | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:19 - Feb 18 with 7141 views | judd |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:10 - Feb 18 by James1980 |
Why does any form of ambition have to equal becoming like Bury and then going bust? I get the caution but it seems like idea's are just shot down in flames. What do people genuinely and realistically want? |
A left back. | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:29 - Feb 18 with 7107 views | James1980 |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:19 - Feb 18 by judd |
A left back. |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:32 - Feb 18 with 7089 views | judd |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:29 - Feb 18 by James1980 |
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Actually you got me there, James. You said "realistically" | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:36 - Feb 18 with 6945 views | 100notout |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 12:52 - Feb 18 by kel |
Belting read that and sums up how I’ve felt for the last few weeks. It’s taken me a while to see what’s going on (off the pitch especially) but something needs to change, and quick.
Thanks too for the learning of a new word - apocryphal. |
Exactly what I was going to say Kel (including apocryphal!)
Thanks Mark - that needs to be printed off by as many fans as possible and sent to DB and Kilpatrick with a covering letter informing them that soon there won't be any fans and without fans there will be no club - ALL ON THEIR WATCH!!!!!!!!!!
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:42 - Feb 18 with 6920 views | TVOS1907 |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 12:52 - Feb 18 by kel |
Belting read that and sums up how I’ve felt for the last few weeks. It’s taken me a while to see what’s going on (off the pitch especially) but something needs to change, and quick.
Thanks too for the learning of a new word - apocryphal. |
It's been used in TVOS, I'll have you know. |  |
| When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf? |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:43 - Feb 18 with 6909 views | D_Alien |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 14:10 - Feb 18 by James1980 |
Why does any form of ambition have to equal becoming like Bury and then going bust? I get the caution but it seems like idea's are just shot down in flames. What do people genuinely and realistically want? |
You're mistaken in thinking i was drawing a direct parallel with finances at bury; the reference was regarding the way fans react to events which take their football club in a direction away from the fundamental business of sporting entertainment alongside fan engagement
And specifically, these events aren't "ideas" James, but confirmed expansion into the same territory that saw fans excluded from the end-of-season player awards without the ability to fork out a significant sum of money - and all this under the guise of increasing professionalism. It is a guise too, just as the "family club" is a masquerade; the purpose being, imo, to cement the position and therefore security of the CEO by surrounding himself with staff who're beholden to him. BBM falls into this category too; the Chairman* a mere puppet
Breaking news edit: ex-Chairman
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:50 - Feb 18 with 6876 views | TomRAFC |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:42 - Feb 18 by TVOS1907 |
It's been used in TVOS, I'll have you know. |
By "used in", I assume you mean the publication and not the person? | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:55 - Feb 18 with 6835 views | BigKindo |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:42 - Feb 18 by TVOS1907 |
It's been used in TVOS, I'll have you know. |
Is that true or is it an Apochropha? |  | | |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:05 - Feb 18 with 6768 views | James1980 |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:43 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
You're mistaken in thinking i was drawing a direct parallel with finances at bury; the reference was regarding the way fans react to events which take their football club in a direction away from the fundamental business of sporting entertainment alongside fan engagement
And specifically, these events aren't "ideas" James, but confirmed expansion into the same territory that saw fans excluded from the end-of-season player awards without the ability to fork out a significant sum of money - and all this under the guise of increasing professionalism. It is a guise too, just as the "family club" is a masquerade; the purpose being, imo, to cement the position and therefore security of the CEO by surrounding himself with staff who're beholden to him. BBM falls into this category too; the Chairman* a mere puppet
Breaking news edit: ex-Chairman
[Post edited 18 Feb 2021 17:43]
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On the family club front perhaps that is something the trust need to work with the club on.
The gala event was scrapped, silly idea in the first place considering our league position at the time. | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:12 - Feb 18 with 6732 views | D_Alien |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:05 - Feb 18 by James1980 |
On the family club front perhaps that is something the trust need to work with the club on.
The gala event was scrapped, silly idea in the first place considering our league position at the time. |
The phrase "bread and circuses" comes to mind | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:15 - Feb 18 with 6715 views | TomRAFC |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:12 - Feb 18 by D_Alien |
The phrase "bread and circuses" comes to mind |
I don't really like circuses. Can I have double bread instead? | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:22 - Feb 18 with 6675 views | D_Alien |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:15 - Feb 18 by TomRAFC |
I don't really like circuses. Can I have double bread instead? |
Me neither
And of course... but expect it to be buttered up | |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:30 - Feb 18 with 6628 views | kel |
| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 15:42 - Feb 18 by TVOS1907 |
It's been used in TVOS, I'll have you know. |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:33 - Feb 18 with 6606 views | DaleiLama |
If the current situation is extrapolated to a potentially catastrophic end-point toast might be on the menu |  |
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| Mark Hodkinson on the current state of things at RAFC on 16:36 - Feb 18 with 6582 views | jimmysbaldhead |
Can't read it. I can't cope with white writing on a black background. I think its called astigmatism. It just gets blurry. I've tried copying the text out in to word but it just copies the background with it. |  | | |
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