| A message from a fan from abused by the far right 10:30 - Feb 13 with 32337 views | Rosey_Repeat |
(I am posting this for him for fairly obvious reasons)
A MESSAGE TO ALL WELSH FOOTBALL FANS FROM ROD, A SWANSEA CITY FAN ABUSED BY THE FAR RIGHT
"Hi there, this is a message about an anti racism campaign Swansea and Cardiff fans are doing in the run up to the derby game on 20th March.
The message simply is this
RIVALS ON THE PITCH BUT UNITED AGAINST RACISM.
With the appalling racist abuse that Yan Dhanda had following the game against Man City, it re-emphasises the importance of players taking the knee in the fight to end racism.
Could you please spare a few seconds to
*make a video or photo of yourself taking the knee to be used in our social media and hopefully on a giant banner displayed at the game; please send it back to us standuptoracismswansea@gmail.com
* add your name here .
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSfZUSZ8qjf5TxKzdo5FsHanCbrurn3TUTkFW0s-
The campaign against racism is so so important.
If you could spare a few seconds to do the video / photo and show your support to Yan Dhanda and also in the campaign against racism, that would be brilliant.
Thanks for your time,
Best Regards
Rod
#RIVALS ON THE PITCH UNITED AGAINST RACISM #SWANSEA#CARDIFF#"
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 10:26 - Feb 24 with 1206 views | onehunglow |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 18:20 - Feb 23 by KeithHaynes |
Alienation of an organisations supporters is the perfect idiots way of exposing themselves. |
Did they say how they would replace the Police.
Community officers elected by the community leaders who are appointed by other community leaders.
Or imply abolish laws that don't suit.
Better off as we are,really. |  |
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 13:40 - Feb 24 with 1182 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
Societies need the Police to manage those in the society that cannot behave themselves. Societies that work well see the Police as working for them as their representatives and protectors. Black Urban culture does be not see this vision and is generally anti Police and preach from what I have read "non coperation". Every incident is projected as part of a narrtive.
Cooperation with the Police in black youth culture carries a serious cultural negative stigma, This is how criminals get control of a society.
If organisations like BLM were allowed to police themselves one would imagine that drug and crime gangs would be left alone and the plight of the locals would get even worse. Corruption by BLM elected official would be inevitable. It would be quite reasonable to assume the BLM police and criminal elements would find a working realtionship to coexist. Supporters would be patronised and non supportes hounded out.
What BLM is doing on the Swansea city website is anyones guess. A major error by Mr Birch, [Post edited 24 Feb 2021 13:42]
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 13:56 - Feb 24 with 1170 views | onehunglow |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 13:40 - Feb 24 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Societies need the Police to manage those in the society that cannot behave themselves. Societies that work well see the Police as working for them as their representatives and protectors. Black Urban culture does be not see this vision and is generally anti Police and preach from what I have read "non coperation". Every incident is projected as part of a narrtive.
Cooperation with the Police in black youth culture carries a serious cultural negative stigma, This is how criminals get control of a society.
If organisations like BLM were allowed to police themselves one would imagine that drug and crime gangs would be left alone and the plight of the locals would get even worse. Corruption by BLM elected official would be inevitable. It would be quite reasonable to assume the BLM police and criminal elements would find a working realtionship to coexist. Supporters would be patronised and non supportes hounded out.
What BLM is doing on the Swansea city website is anyones guess. A major error by Mr Birch, [Post edited 24 Feb 2021 13:42]
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Black youth have and always will say Babylon will always repress them. Police should when they are criminals and act as such.
Ask them why don' they don't join and change or improve the system and they chortle.
The police service has infinately more senior officers/commanders,some not that competent but fully PC and loathe to upset black communities in the big cities as the community leader s are fully 100% involved and motivated to highlight anything at all that seeks to portray their criminal element for what they are. Criminals.
Its always been the case an always will. | |
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 14:26 - Feb 24 with 1166 views | Catullus |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 13:37 - Feb 20 by Dr_Parnassus |
Of course it’s common sense, you just don’t want to admit it. Which is why you couldn’t answer my question I put to you.
Because obviously your answer would be no, which is the exact same reason as why some don’t like this. They don’t agree with the links to the awful political side. There is no difference. |
Sorry, I hadn't looked on here for a while but I was bored so,
I think there is an intrinsic difference in taking the knee and the Swatika. What the Nazi's did for a decade and what BLM did bears no comparison. Starting a world war, torture and genocide is a lor worse than a politically motivated group who erpetrated small acts of violence, about 7% of their events turned violent. The Nazi's kiled millions, how many did BLM kill?
Even so taking the knee was being used immediately before BLm co-opted it and then immediately after.
Only a fool would try and say taking the knee was in the same league as the Swastika and what it came to represent. For over 70 years now we have associated the Swastika with Nazi Germany, taking the knee has been used by BLM for 5 minutes.
Of course the answer would be no. | |
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 01:06 - Feb 25 with 1120 views | Dr_Parnassus |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 14:26 - Feb 24 by Catullus |
Sorry, I hadn't looked on here for a while but I was bored so,
I think there is an intrinsic difference in taking the knee and the Swatika. What the Nazi's did for a decade and what BLM did bears no comparison. Starting a world war, torture and genocide is a lor worse than a politically motivated group who erpetrated small acts of violence, about 7% of their events turned violent. The Nazi's kiled millions, how many did BLM kill?
Even so taking the knee was being used immediately before BLm co-opted it and then immediately after.
Only a fool would try and say taking the knee was in the same league as the Swastika and what it came to represent. For over 70 years now we have associated the Swastika with Nazi Germany, taking the knee has been used by BLM for 5 minutes.
Of course the answer would be no. |
But they aren’t linked remember, that’s the caveat. You are linking them, just don’t like them is your solution. Right?
Maybe you can now see why the suggestion is silly.
It’s not a “scale of badness”. If you disagree with a political group and their beliefs then you will not adopt their slogans or signage no matter what the cause. That doesn’t mean you disagree with the cause. BLM have a socialism belief, one of their aims is to “dismantle capitalism”. Socialism in one guise or another has killed hundreds of millions across the world.
That’s without mentioning they have a remit to defund the police that are protecting people’s families. It’s a horrendous movement and you have to understand the obvious links and the obvious reasons people dislike it.
There is clear links to nazism from the swastika yes, I can’t stand the symbol - even if the nazis didn’t create it and it means peace in its original form, and still does to many. There is clear links to BLM from the current wave of the knee and fist, even if some are claiming it doesn’t mean that to them. It really is that simple, the situations are the same.
If you wouldn’t do the former then you have to accept why many won’t do the latter, and it has nothing to do with the message. Which is why the message should not have anything even remotely to do with any political ideology - which it currently does. Racism isn’t political, it’s humanitarian. But that’s obvious and am sure you know that by now. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 1:36]
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 10:15 - Feb 25 with 1067 views | jackrabbit |
Rod Liddle made an excellent point in last week’s ‘Spectator’:
“... If Black Lives Matter really do think that black lives matter, they should be howling from the rooftops demanding folk go and queue up for their jabs, instead of tilting at imaginary racist windmills and getting cross about statues.”
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 10:35 - Feb 25 with 1058 views | onehunglow |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 10:15 - Feb 25 by jackrabbit |
Rod Liddle made an excellent point in last week’s ‘Spectator’:
“... If Black Lives Matter really do think that black lives matter, they should be howling from the rooftops demanding folk go and queue up for their jabs, instead of tilting at imaginary racist windmills and getting cross about statues.”
Amen |
It's all about racism and poverty.
It was aid last night.
Little honesty required | |
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 18:05 - Feb 25 with 1023 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 10:35 - Feb 25 by onehunglow |
It's all about racism and poverty.
It was aid last night.
Little honesty required |
There is also the issues of thngs going on in Africa. In the same week of George Floyd's death upto 100 school children were kidnapped in Cameroon. Only reported on Al Jazieera in the west. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 20:58]
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| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 18:15 - Feb 25 with 1017 views | onehunglow |
| A message from a fan from abused by the far right on 18:05 - Feb 25 by ReslovenSwan1 |
There is also the issues of thngs going on in Africa. In the same week of George Floyd's death upto 100 school children were kidnapped in Cameroon. Only reported on Al Jazieera in the west. [Post edited 25 Feb 2021 20:58]
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This would be black on black then.
No wonder they didnt broadcast it here.
Some horrendous things going in in Nigeria and many former colonies in Africa. | |
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