| Them up the road on 10:47 - Feb 4 with 1534 views | felixstowe_jack |
| Them up the road on 20:41 - Feb 3 by bennytheblue |
Talking of legals, when are your trust going to take the hedge fund to court for not telling them about selling Swansea town? I cannot wait. Litigation you will find is shiiite of the modern world |
Why does benny keep getting our name wrong? Does he not know Cardiff's original name was riverside fc? |  |
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| Them up the road on 12:20 - Feb 4 with 1493 views | bennytheblue |
| Them up the road on 08:51 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
Dalman recently said he went to Nantes and said they should split it 50/50, while also paying a portion to Sala's family. I'd say the amount that CCFC were prepared to pay Nantes was at least the 5.3M first installment. I actually agree with that suggestion. But the problem is that says CCFC have the funds available to pay the first installment, meaning Dalman is blatantly lying when he says CCFC don't have the money.
You're talking a lot about Nantes and McKay lately. Trying to shift the blame elsewhere other than Cardiff. Whether or not Nantes and McKay have been acting in good faith doesn't change whether or not CCFC are liable to pay the fee. |
Of course he is lying, Tan has converted 100 million of the clubs debt to equity in the last 2 years aswell as getting 200 million odd from sky alone. He would make a great politician as many cardiff fans often say. |  | | |
| Them up the road on 12:24 - Feb 4 with 1496 views | TimTtam |
| Them up the road on 12:20 - Feb 4 by bennytheblue |
Of course he is lying, Tan has converted 100 million of the clubs debt to equity in the last 2 years aswell as getting 200 million odd from sky alone. He would make a great politician as many cardiff fans often say. |
You got 122M from your PL income. |  |
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| Them up the road on 12:38 - Feb 4 with 1478 views | bennytheblue |
| Them up the road on 12:24 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
You got 122M from your PL income. |
Last season, and 65 this? | | | |
| Them up the road on 12:40 - Feb 4 with 1478 views | Highjack |
Just out of interest have Nantes honoured the sell on fees to Sala’s previous club? |  |
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| Them up the road on 12:57 - Feb 4 with 1469 views | JackSomething |
| Them up the road on 12:40 - Feb 4 by Highjack |
Just out of interest have Nantes honoured the sell on fees to Sala’s previous club? |
I can't imagine so. If you haven't been given the fee you should have got from selling him, how can you pay the sell-on fees to his previous club? I would guess that Nantes have been in touch with them and agreed that they'll pay what they owe as soon as Cardiff stump up the cash. Otherwise his previous club could sue Nantes for what they are owed and further complicate the situation.
On the Dalmat quotes: 'And secondly, if we don't have to pay, why should we?' That is breathtaking. Forget any ideas of morality or even PR. He's outright saying we may be able to wriggle out of this legally, so why shouldn't we try to do that? If they lose their appeal, they need to be hit with an almighty extra punishment to deter other clubs from trying to do the same.
I thought we did the dirty on Utrecht over Vorm, but this is a whole other level. |  |
| You know, Hobbes, some days even my lucky rocket ship underpants don't help. |
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| Them up the road on 13:48 - Feb 4 with 1420 views | TimTtam |
| Them up the road on 12:38 - Feb 4 by bennytheblue |
Last season, and 65 this? |
35M of it is parachute payments.
So your bizarre 200M statement isn't that far off (187M) after all. But your club doesn't have 5.3M to spare, after Dalman lied to fans at a fan forum saying CCFC didn't have the money to be able to pay up.
In a legal row where several parties are involved, CCFC aren't making themselves look very honest. Especially by firstly claiming Sala wasn't their player, and now claiming he was and instead suing Nantes. | |
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| Them up the road on 13:51 - Feb 4 with 1417 views | TimTtam |
Morally Cardiff should pay up. But legally I can easily see them finding a way out of it. I legitimately think they won't have to pay. What will be important is how reliable and accurate FIFA's decision was. | |
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| Them up the road on 14:05 - Feb 4 with 1400 views | Whiterockin |
| Them up the road on 13:51 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
Morally Cardiff should pay up. But legally I can easily see them finding a way out of it. I legitimately think they won't have to pay. What will be important is how reliable and accurate FIFA's decision was. |
I agree, but he signed a three and a half year deal, valid or not. What I am trying to work out is if Cardiff have to pay the contract as well as the transfer. Easily another £10M plus. |  | | |
| Them up the road on 14:40 - Feb 4 with 1377 views | mikecranleigh |
Surely the player was insured? |  | | |
| Them up the road on 14:50 - Feb 4 with 1355 views | bennytheblue |
| Them up the road on 13:51 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
Morally Cardiff should pay up. But legally I can easily see them finding a way out of it. I legitimately think they won't have to pay. What will be important is how reliable and accurate FIFA's decision was. |
Sure, when you break it down I think 5 million goes to Bordeaux his previous club and about 1.5 million to agent scumbag. I can envisage a scenario where we put in a good few million to the fund set up when all this is said and done should we win the case. I reckon Nantes won’t contribute feeling hard done by but they need look no further than the Agent they use, the scumbag. | | | |
| Them up the road on 16:06 - Feb 4 with 1306 views | TimTtam |
| Them up the road on 14:50 - Feb 4 by bennytheblue |
Sure, when you break it down I think 5 million goes to Bordeaux his previous club and about 1.5 million to agent scumbag. I can envisage a scenario where we put in a good few million to the fund set up when all this is said and done should we win the case. I reckon Nantes won’t contribute feeling hard done by but they need look no further than the Agent they use, the scumbag. |
As CCFC have now decided, Sala was a Cardiff player, not a Nantes player. Therefore there's no expectation that Nantes donate to the fund, given that Sala isn't their player anymore. I can't find any financial information about Nantes, but they've made a few signings worth 4-7M each in the past few seasons, so they have the money too. Like with Cardiff, the moral thing would be to pay, but legally they don't have to.
It'd be the same if Dan James had died shortly after becoming a Man U player, and if his family set up a fund. Hypothetically,the moral thing would've been for Swansea to donate 1M into the fund, but legally there would've been no obligation.
The Bordeaux & McKay sums are interesting. So technically Nantes owe Bordeaux 5M & McKay 1.5M, and Cardiff owe Nantes 15M. Therefore Nantes need the money in order to pay Bordeaux & McKay. Could Bordeaux & McKay separately sue Cardiff for loss of earnings, due to them withholding the transfer fee? | |
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| Them up the road on 16:08 - Feb 4 with 1304 views | TimTtam |
| Them up the road on 14:05 - Feb 4 by Whiterockin |
I agree, but he signed a three and a half year deal, valid or not. What I am trying to work out is if Cardiff have to pay the contract as well as the transfer. Easily another £10M plus. |
In my limited knowledge of the law, I'd say it would come down to whether Cardiff had insurance. If so, then that would cover it. But if not, perhaps they would have to. I hadn't thought of that aspect. | |
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| Them up the road on 18:26 - Feb 4 with 1253 views | pencoedjack |
| Them up the road on 16:08 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
In my limited knowledge of the law, I'd say it would come down to whether Cardiff had insurance. If so, then that would cover it. But if not, perhaps they would have to. I hadn't thought of that aspect. |
It’s obvious he’s not insured .... they”d pay if he was.
Fuk people believing the bull shite about C*****f not paying as its down to some dodgy agent.
They had Jones Mckay & Warnock as managers prior, you think they were squeaky clean.
Anyway fuk em pure scum. |  | | |
| Them up the road on 21:33 - Feb 4 with 1194 views | jack247 |
| Them up the road on 16:08 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
In my limited knowledge of the law, I'd say it would come down to whether Cardiff had insurance. If so, then that would cover it. But if not, perhaps they would have to. I hadn't thought of that aspect. |
I’m pretty sure any insurance they would have had, would have been voided by using a colourblind pilot who wasn’t licensed to fly passengers. | | | |
| Them up the road on 21:42 - Feb 4 with 1173 views | Chief |
| Them up the road on 18:26 - Feb 4 by pencoedjack |
It’s obvious he’s not insured .... they”d pay if he was.
Fuk people believing the bull shite about C*****f not paying as its down to some dodgy agent.
They had Jones Mckay & Warnock as managers prior, you think they were squeaky clean.
Anyway fuk em pure scum. |
Didn't one of the agents involved 2 sons end up signing for them? Something dodgy around that. |  |
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| Them up the road on 21:44 - Feb 4 with 1169 views | Chief |
| Them up the road on 16:06 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
As CCFC have now decided, Sala was a Cardiff player, not a Nantes player. Therefore there's no expectation that Nantes donate to the fund, given that Sala isn't their player anymore. I can't find any financial information about Nantes, but they've made a few signings worth 4-7M each in the past few seasons, so they have the money too. Like with Cardiff, the moral thing would be to pay, but legally they don't have to.
It'd be the same if Dan James had died shortly after becoming a Man U player, and if his family set up a fund. Hypothetically,the moral thing would've been for Swansea to donate 1M into the fund, but legally there would've been no obligation.
The Bordeaux & McKay sums are interesting. So technically Nantes owe Bordeaux 5M & McKay 1.5M, and Cardiff owe Nantes 15M. Therefore Nantes need the money in order to pay Bordeaux & McKay. Could Bordeaux & McKay separately sue Cardiff for loss of earnings, due to them withholding the transfer fee? |
Nantes brought out a new shirt the other day with proceeds going to Sala's family. | |
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| Them up the road on 21:47 - Feb 4 with 1163 views | monmouth |
| Them up the road on 21:42 - Feb 4 by Chief |
Didn't one of the agents involved 2 sons end up signing for them? Something dodgy around that. |
Carduff? Bent as they come. Shit club. |  |
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| Them up the road on 21:49 - Feb 4 with 1155 views | Chief |
| Them up the road on 21:47 - Feb 4 by monmouth |
Carduff? Bent as they come. Shit club. |
As scummy as they come | |
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| Them up the road on 03:14 - Feb 5 with 1103 views | TimTtam |
| Them up the road on 21:44 - Feb 4 by Chief |
Nantes brought out a new shirt the other day with proceeds going to Sala's family. |
Ah, good to know. It seems Benny and Dalman ignored that.
Seeing as Dalman told Nantes to "put their money where their mouth is" and to make a contribution to the fund, I guess Nantes have the right to ask Cardiff to bring out a shirt and send the proceeds to Sala's family too. | |
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| Them up the road on 10:25 - Feb 5 with 1041 views | Highjack |
| Them up the road on 16:08 - Feb 4 by TimTtam |
In my limited knowledge of the law, I'd say it would come down to whether Cardiff had insurance. If so, then that would cover it. But if not, perhaps they would have to. I hadn't thought of that aspect. |
In all likelihood any insurance would relate to his every day life as a footballer. Injuries etc. Whether air travel is included in that is unlikely. Do Cardiff fly to any games? In the prem they might have to places like Newcastle etc. But then you can get travel insurance for a couple of quid that covers that. | |
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