Three Girls 12:33 - May 17 with 9532 views | LS27Rdale | Shocking drama regarding the White Rochdale Girls raped by our our Muslim/Pakistani Brothers aired on BBC 1 last night. You can argue that real life drama like this should not be broadcast, as it may offend certain members of the community...BullSh&t Im sure the victims, who were ignored for umpteen years wont be offended. I always remember being at high school , and some of the white girls used to always get picked up from school in taxis. They were the same girls who were always came in, caked in slap. And were always grown up, much more than us lads. So if us kids off kirkholt saw it, why didnt the parents? or the people in charge, Social services etc? see it ???? Was talking to an asian lad about this a few months ago. Yeah he is a muslim, doesnt go to mosque, and moved from bradford to wakefield, coz he was sick of some of the stuff going on in bradford. He was saying, if you are in an arranged marriage, the wife is just a baby maker. He was saying thats the majority, not the minority, Some of the muslim lads see white english girls as trophies, and they use and abuse them as they are easy. ie, Get them drunk. Thats how they justify it.Plus they have no respect for them because they are white and non muslim. He was also saying the muslim community never spoke up, as they were terrified of "come back" and family honour...Shocking Excellent article http://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/0/three-girls-does-start-really-happened-rochdale- | | | | |
Three Girls on 12:40 - May 17 with 6997 views | RoChDaLe | I've not watched the TV programme on this topic however your post is heavily aimed at just the muslim community taking advantage of young girls however non-muslim people are just as guilty of this awful act. | |
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Three Girls on 12:48 - May 17 with 6966 views | isitme |
Three Girls on 12:40 - May 17 by RoChDaLe | I've not watched the TV programme on this topic however your post is heavily aimed at just the muslim community taking advantage of young girls however non-muslim people are just as guilty of this awful act. |
Because in this case, which the TV programme was about, it was a Pakistani grooming gang which was committing the crimes hence his reference to Muslims. If you look at the facts, you will find in all the reported cases of grooming gangs they are predominantly Pakistani in their make up. All sexual offenses are heinous and most are committed by white males. In the case of grooming gangs, which is a specific issue in its own right males from Pakistani backgrounds are significantly over represented in relation to demographics of this country. The sad parts to this story are that it is still going on in every town and city in the country where there is a sizeable Pakistani population and that it has been/is been covered up in the name of political correctness and in exchange for votes. [Post edited 17 May 2017 12:49]
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Three Girls on 13:01 - May 17 with 6904 views | mightydale |
Three Girls on 12:48 - May 17 by isitme | Because in this case, which the TV programme was about, it was a Pakistani grooming gang which was committing the crimes hence his reference to Muslims. If you look at the facts, you will find in all the reported cases of grooming gangs they are predominantly Pakistani in their make up. All sexual offenses are heinous and most are committed by white males. In the case of grooming gangs, which is a specific issue in its own right males from Pakistani backgrounds are significantly over represented in relation to demographics of this country. The sad parts to this story are that it is still going on in every town and city in the country where there is a sizeable Pakistani population and that it has been/is been covered up in the name of political correctness and in exchange for votes. [Post edited 17 May 2017 12:49]
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Three Girls on 13:08 - May 17 with 6877 views | JimmyRustler |
Three Girls on 12:40 - May 17 by RoChDaLe | I've not watched the TV programme on this topic however your post is heavily aimed at just the muslim community taking advantage of young girls however non-muslim people are just as guilty of this awful act. |
This is precisely the attitude that led to the cover up of said crimes. I implore you to watch the program first before you spout such nonsense. | | | |
Three Girls on 13:09 - May 17 with 6868 views | dale5758 |
Three Girls on 12:48 - May 17 by isitme | Because in this case, which the TV programme was about, it was a Pakistani grooming gang which was committing the crimes hence his reference to Muslims. If you look at the facts, you will find in all the reported cases of grooming gangs they are predominantly Pakistani in their make up. All sexual offenses are heinous and most are committed by white males. In the case of grooming gangs, which is a specific issue in its own right males from Pakistani backgrounds are significantly over represented in relation to demographics of this country. The sad parts to this story are that it is still going on in every town and city in the country where there is a sizeable Pakistani population and that it has been/is been covered up in the name of political correctness and in exchange for votes. [Post edited 17 May 2017 12:49]
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Completely agree. Today too many people are scared of "saying it like it is" for fear of being pulled up as a) A Bully b) A Bigot c) A Sexist. I think I've covered all the perceived bases there. At no point does the OP post what looks like racist remarks to me because as others have replied the Muslim element comes into it only because that's the context of the programme | |
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Three Girls on 13:12 - May 17 with 6853 views | SuddenLad | It was shocking to see Social Services threaten to confiscate a child at the moment of birth, rather than treat the mother as a victim of abuse. No wonder many of the girls were reluctant to come forward. Despite serious initial failings, the Telegraph article does make it clear, correctly, that the failure to prosecute earlier was entirely the decision of the CPS. That was despite there being sufficient to secure convictions, as events subsequently proved. Only when the Asian head of the CPS reversed that decision and took the defendants to Court, was a string of convictions and lengthy sentences secured. | |
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Three Girls on 13:20 - May 17 with 6821 views | ChaffRAFC |
Three Girls on 12:40 - May 17 by RoChDaLe | I've not watched the TV programme on this topic however your post is heavily aimed at just the muslim community taking advantage of young girls however non-muslim people are just as guilty of this awful act. |
Jesus wept. The post is aimed at a section of the muslim community because that's who was at fault in this case. Whoever commits a crime, whatever race, gender or whatever should be open to as much comeback from people as people see fit. Just because it's the asian community in question for this crime doesn't mean we have to go all defensive in case, god forbid, we might offend people. Read Isitme's post. Great post. We live in generation snowflake. Everyone is too f***ing fragile these days and too offended by trivial sh!te.
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Three Girls on 13:31 - May 17 with 6774 views | SuddenLad |
Three Girls on 13:20 - May 17 by ChaffRAFC | Jesus wept. The post is aimed at a section of the muslim community because that's who was at fault in this case. Whoever commits a crime, whatever race, gender or whatever should be open to as much comeback from people as people see fit. Just because it's the asian community in question for this crime doesn't mean we have to go all defensive in case, god forbid, we might offend people. Read Isitme's post. Great post. We live in generation snowflake. Everyone is too f***ing fragile these days and too offended by trivial sh!te.
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Three Girls on 13:49 - May 17 with 6720 views | LS27Rdale | Maybe you should watch the 3 part drama before commenting. Yes there are english white scum who rape rob murder white and non white people, who are also filth and deserve to hang. Tell you what, next time im at the LGI, ill get Asif to bell you, coz im reckon you think this is made up to score points? And hit the Muslim community with another stick. BTW i was also gonna mention the WHITE scum, who shot Rhys Jones , a drama that has just been on ITV. Fantastic drama. Horrible story . Are you really that Brainwashed ? | | | |
Three Girls on 14:08 - May 17 with 6668 views | D_Alien | Whilst being very clear about all types of crime and who the perpretators are, I can't say I was at all shocked by the drama, simply because it's not only common knowledge but imo hasn't (so far) gone far enough in portraying the extent of the abuse of white girls by mainly pakistani males I believe the second episode tonight is going to take that further It's been happening in plain sight for a very long time, and whilst the abuse was undertaken by asian males it's the white liberal establishment that's allowed it to happen for so long. The recent political backlash against the establishment is, I believe in part, due to it's guilt-ridden failure to accept that different cultures have very different standards and values which are inimical to our way of life The producers and actors in this drama (including, I might add, the asian actors) deserve all the awards that may well be coming their way. As I say, I really hope the final two episodes deliver the true extent of it [Post edited 17 May 2017 14:14]
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Three Girls on 14:32 - May 17 with 6609 views | D_Dale | On a less emotional aspect of the programme, where were the outdoor scenes filmed? The seven sisters tower blocks looked computer-generated. | | | |
Three Girls on 14:33 - May 17 with 6604 views | deeplishblue | 7 pages. | |
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Three Girls on 14:59 - May 17 with 6552 views | TVOS1907 |
Three Girls on 14:32 - May 17 by D_Dale | On a less emotional aspect of the programme, where were the outdoor scenes filmed? The seven sisters tower blocks looked computer-generated. |
Not watched it yet, but they filmed it away from Rochdale. | |
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Three Girls on 15:15 - May 17 with 6512 views | Kingstdale | The programme was filmed in Bristol. | | | |
Three Girls on 15:31 - May 17 with 6456 views | D_Dale |
Three Girls on 15:15 - May 17 by Kingstdale | The programme was filmed in Bristol. |
Thanks for the replies to the location point. I thought the streets shown looked unfamiliar. | | | |
Three Girls on 16:06 - May 17 with 6368 views | Bobbyjoe |
Three Girls on 13:09 - May 17 by dale5758 | Completely agree. Today too many people are scared of "saying it like it is" for fear of being pulled up as a) A Bully b) A Bigot c) A Sexist. I think I've covered all the perceived bases there. At no point does the OP post what looks like racist remarks to me because as others have replied the Muslim element comes into it only because that's the context of the programme |
Well, leaving aside for a moment phrases such as "our Muslim brothers", what is the motivation for raising the issue in the context of a football message-board? Outrage on behalf of the victims, or a stick gleefully taken up to beat an entire demographic! | | | |
Three Girls on 16:13 - May 17 with 6349 views | nordenblue |
Three Girls on 16:06 - May 17 by Bobbyjoe | Well, leaving aside for a moment phrases such as "our Muslim brothers", what is the motivation for raising the issue in the context of a football message-board? Outrage on behalf of the victims, or a stick gleefully taken up to beat an entire demographic! |
This message board isn't exclusively for football related topics though if that's what youre getting at? | | | |
Three Girls on 16:33 - May 17 with 6290 views | D_Alien |
Three Girls on 16:06 - May 17 by Bobbyjoe | Well, leaving aside for a moment phrases such as "our Muslim brothers", what is the motivation for raising the issue in the context of a football message-board? Outrage on behalf of the victims, or a stick gleefully taken up to beat an entire demographic! |
The location of the drama is Rochdale, purportedly It could've been any of the major towns or cities in the UK, as I understand tonight's episode will portray Many subjects pertinent to the town are raised on this messageboard; for instance, Daley Lama's crusade to have the traffic lights changed at the Townhead junction following several accidents was a highlight of this messageboard a short while ago There was serious criticism of the planning authorities. I must've missed your post on why the subject was raised on a messageboard as a stick with which to beat the planners [Post edited 17 May 2017 16:34]
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Three Girls on 17:12 - May 17 with 6210 views | KenBoon |
Three Girls on 13:12 - May 17 by SuddenLad | It was shocking to see Social Services threaten to confiscate a child at the moment of birth, rather than treat the mother as a victim of abuse. No wonder many of the girls were reluctant to come forward. Despite serious initial failings, the Telegraph article does make it clear, correctly, that the failure to prosecute earlier was entirely the decision of the CPS. That was despite there being sufficient to secure convictions, as events subsequently proved. Only when the Asian head of the CPS reversed that decision and took the defendants to Court, was a string of convictions and lengthy sentences secured. |
The part where the social worker tells the parents that their daughter had been working as a prostitute was harrowing. This is something that actually happened. I cannot anywhere in my mind understand how. These are the people charged with protecting the vulnerable, yet they appear to hold them in contempt. Shameful isn't strong enough. | | | |
Three Girls on 17:23 - May 17 with 6186 views | since58 |
Three Girls on 16:06 - May 17 by Bobbyjoe | Well, leaving aside for a moment phrases such as "our Muslim brothers", what is the motivation for raising the issue in the context of a football message-board? Outrage on behalf of the victims, or a stick gleefully taken up to beat an entire demographic! |
I'd gleefully take up a stick and beat the demographics out of the dirty scumbags. | | | |
Three Girls on 17:27 - May 17 with 6169 views | roccydaleian |
Three Girls on 13:31 - May 17 by SuddenLad | * Or for Allah's sake !! |
Careful SL, you'll have every Tom, Dick and Abdul after you. | | | |
Three Girls on 17:41 - May 17 with 6136 views | kel | Which pub did they drink in? | | | |
Three Girls on 17:57 - May 17 with 6088 views | tony_roch975 |
Three Girls on 12:48 - May 17 by isitme | Because in this case, which the TV programme was about, it was a Pakistani grooming gang which was committing the crimes hence his reference to Muslims. If you look at the facts, you will find in all the reported cases of grooming gangs they are predominantly Pakistani in their make up. All sexual offenses are heinous and most are committed by white males. In the case of grooming gangs, which is a specific issue in its own right males from Pakistani backgrounds are significantly over represented in relation to demographics of this country. The sad parts to this story are that it is still going on in every town and city in the country where there is a sizeable Pakistani population and that it has been/is been covered up in the name of political correctness and in exchange for votes. [Post edited 17 May 2017 12:49]
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Yes there's a cultural element here - but not a religious one (as episode 3 will show). Sara Rowbotham (The Sexual Health Worker) is now a Rochdale Councillor. Her analysis (and she'll know better than any of us) is that there was no 'pc' refusal to avoid the truth; the Police had no problems arresting British Asian speeding motorists, shoplifters, burglars, drug dealers etc etc. The problem was the assumption by all agencies that 13 year old girls weren't being abused, they were making 'life choices' to be 'child prostitutes' ie there was no crime to prosecute! And if they did prosecute they'd be 'unreliable' witnesses and wouldn't be believed - just as happened in the end in the Ched Evans case!! What's harrowing is how we've created a society where thousands of young girls (and boys) have so little self-esteem that they can be groomed with a few smiles and trinkets. Maybe also it's the result of the modern obsession with microscopic specialisation - one agency saw he was wearing no socks, one saw no shirt, one saw no trousers ... but none saw the Emperor was naked! | |
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Three Girls on 18:17 - May 17 with 6043 views | ColDale | Very good piece that Danczuk retweeted this morning. He wrote it three years ago following the Rotherham case: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/11066244/Rotherham-is-not-an-isolat (and obvs a lot of feelings towards Danczuk that you should put aside before reading that). As for the programme, it was emotionally draining just watchingit. You couldn't take your eyes off for it a single second. | | | |
Three Girls on 18:28 - May 17 with 6017 views | isitme |
Three Girls on 17:57 - May 17 by tony_roch975 | Yes there's a cultural element here - but not a religious one (as episode 3 will show). Sara Rowbotham (The Sexual Health Worker) is now a Rochdale Councillor. Her analysis (and she'll know better than any of us) is that there was no 'pc' refusal to avoid the truth; the Police had no problems arresting British Asian speeding motorists, shoplifters, burglars, drug dealers etc etc. The problem was the assumption by all agencies that 13 year old girls weren't being abused, they were making 'life choices' to be 'child prostitutes' ie there was no crime to prosecute! And if they did prosecute they'd be 'unreliable' witnesses and wouldn't be believed - just as happened in the end in the Ched Evans case!! What's harrowing is how we've created a society where thousands of young girls (and boys) have so little self-esteem that they can be groomed with a few smiles and trinkets. Maybe also it's the result of the modern obsession with microscopic specialisation - one agency saw he was wearing no socks, one saw no shirt, one saw no trousers ... but none saw the Emperor was naked! |
I would agree that it is a cultural issue. The vast majority of perpetrators of child grooming in Rochdale and across the country are from the same area of Pakistan. Obviously not all Muslim males are child groomers but it is a serious problem within certain communities. As for the pc element in covering up the incidents and the scale MPs and councillors in places such as Keighley and Rotherham have admitted, which is well documented online that racial sensitivities prevented investigations in these areas for years. The real irony is that it took a Muslim male to decide to prosecute some of the perpetrators in Rochdale. | | | |
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