| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people 14:29 - May 10 with 7990 views | dgt73 |
Labour wouldn't have done that. The conservative party = the party of the hard working classes.  |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:03 - May 10 with 1913 views | Highjack |
Isn't there a EU law that all member countries have to have VAT that is at least 17% or something along those lines and they are thinking of upping it soon? |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:09 - May 10 with 1899 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:03 - May 10 by Highjack |
Isn't there a EU law that all member countries have to have VAT that is at least 17% or something along those lines and they are thinking of upping it soon? |
Ours is already 20%. |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:11 - May 10 with 1893 views | dgt73 |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:03 - May 10 by Highjack |
Isn't there a EU law that all member countries have to have VAT that is at least 17% or something along those lines and they are thinking of upping it soon? |
Another reason to tell the EU to fook off.  | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:13 - May 10 with 1886 views | karnataka |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:03 - May 10 by Highjack |
Isn't there a EU law that all member countries have to have VAT that is at least 17% or something along those lines and they are thinking of upping it soon? |
I think the current EU VAT Directive says that countries can set their own rates but it has to be between 15 & 25%. |  | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:18 - May 10 with 1867 views | Highjack |
I thought so, so we couldn't lower it much even if we wanted not that they ever would. | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:51 - May 10 with 1834 views | monmouth |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 16:09 - May 10 by exiledclaseboy |
I believe that's the plan, yes. The manifesto also contains a pledge not to increase NI. I only glanced over the Tory manifesto pre-election because it wasn't as if I was ever going to consider voting for them. I've now read all of it (not least because I had to for work). It's a truly terrifying document for anyone who values justice and fairness. I'm hoping against hope that Cameron's "one-nation" rhetoric in the immediate post-election aftermath trumps some of the stuff in the manifesto. [Post edited 10 May 2015 16:10]
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Like Thatcher quoting St Francis you mean? That ended well for those who couldn't fight back.
It's odd as I did very well out of Thatcherism, and should really be a natural tory but I can't bear the cruel mean minded ideology. Cameron, Osborne, Gove (ugh); they make my skin crawl...as did Blair, the sociopath Brown and idiot Clegg. Is there no political party that can provide a context of aspiration, wealth generation, and a compassionate social fabric. A mutual benefit of private enterprise and public infrastructure if you like. Is that really too much to ask? Obviously. |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:55 - May 10 with 1821 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:13 - May 10 by karnataka |
I think the current EU VAT Directive says that countries can set their own rates but it has to be between 15 & 25%. |
I think EU law only says that it has to be at least 15%. There's no upper limit as far as I know. | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:57 - May 10 with 1819 views | trampie |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:51 - May 10 by monmouth |
Like Thatcher quoting St Francis you mean? That ended well for those who couldn't fight back.
It's odd as I did very well out of Thatcherism, and should really be a natural tory but I can't bear the cruel mean minded ideology. Cameron, Osborne, Gove (ugh); they make my skin crawl...as did Blair, the sociopath Brown and idiot Clegg. Is there no political party that can provide a context of aspiration, wealth generation, and a compassionate social fabric. A mutual benefit of private enterprise and public infrastructure if you like. Is that really too much to ask? Obviously. |
A nice post Monmouth. |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 20:49 - May 10 with 1772 views | karnataka |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 15:37 - May 10 by jackonicko |
I just had to replace my photo card driving licence. As I had recently renewed my passport, I filled out a form on the website, gave my passport number and paid the fee. The new driving licence, with my updated photo off the passport, was with me 48 hours later.
Very impressed with that, I was.
Don't tell me it's a bunch of elves at the DVLA doing it manually in the background. It would ruin my illusion. |
I did that too a couple of months ago and was quite impressed that there was such good co-operation between 2 seemingly unrelated government departments. Copies both the photograph and signature off your passport.
Not sure about the elves thing. | | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 23:30 - May 10 with 1707 views | jackrabbit |
It's been tough trying to stop smiling since Friday morning. The stunned unbelieving expressions on the faces of Paddy Pantsdown and Harriet Harperson reacting to the Exit Poll, the equally stunned reactions of the Beeb's finest, Nick Robinson and John Pienaar., who had expected to report a triumph of the Left. And to cap it all, to see Ed Balls on Jobseekers Allowance and the obnoxious Not-so-Gorgeous George Galloway consigned to the dustbin of history - well a bloke's cup runneth over doesn't it?
It remains to see whether Labour have learned the lesson or whether they will yet again make a disastrous choice of leader. Labour has in its ranks, some extremely deluded people. You only had to hear Ken Livingstone on Friday spouting that Milliband's problem was that he wasn't socialist enough. As Allison Pearson wrote today "Even worse was Lord Kinnock, who popped up in the small hours to tell us, with breathtaking arrogance and condescension, that the British people always made the stupid mistake of not voting for his party because they swallowed evil Tory lies that Labour was bad for the economy.
Now, where could we possibly have got that idea from?"
Some similar statements just make you shake your head in disbelief. Leanne Wood reckons "the Tories have no future in Wales". Hmmmm. There are 11 Conservative seats in Wales - how many Plaid seats, Leanne? Oh I thought so - 3.
The only sensible comments again have come from the estimable Alan Johnson - now there's a potential election winner, but that would be far too sensible for Labour. I see the problem for the Left summed up by the old adage that if you're not a socialist when you're young, you have no heart. But if you're still a socialist when you're old, you have no head. People are living longer. The country is getting older. |  | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:26 - May 11 with 1676 views | truckjack |
Thought id chip in my pennies worth. Where has this rumour of a vat increase come from, source?
The case of people getting child benefit while living in Barbados, well, if you take the Barbados 'glamour-thought' out of it, if youve worked all your life and contributed to the tax & NI system then why shouldn't you get the pay back from the state? For example, my gran is 100 years old, she worked on a farm until she was 40 then worked in the co-op until she was 65. Now she lives in an old peoples complex in her own little house and has to pay full rent. Her friend, 'Betty' lives in the same complex but has never worked, Betty doesn't have to pay for the rent, its paid by the state. |  | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:29 - May 11 with 1671 views | Highjack |
Do you have any photos of Betty? | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:44 - May 11 with 1666 views | truckjack |
Funny, grown up boy. Arsehole | | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:50 - May 11 with 1660 views | Highjack |
Yes a picture of her arsehole would probably do the trick. | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:51 - May 11 with 1659 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:26 - May 11 by truckjack |
Thought id chip in my pennies worth. Where has this rumour of a vat increase come from, source?
The case of people getting child benefit while living in Barbados, well, if you take the Barbados 'glamour-thought' out of it, if youve worked all your life and contributed to the tax & NI system then why shouldn't you get the pay back from the state? For example, my gran is 100 years old, she worked on a farm until she was 40 then worked in the co-op until she was 65. Now she lives in an old peoples complex in her own little house and has to pay full rent. Her friend, 'Betty' lives in the same complex but has never worked, Betty doesn't have to pay for the rent, its paid by the state. |
It wasn't child benefit ! It was winter fuel allowance. My point was that they should save money for people in genuine need by means testing these things. The reason for making the point about the guy I know in Barbados wasn't anything to do with glamour - it's that he's getting winter fuel allowance in a country where the temperature never drops below 27 degrees :-) |  | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 01:06 - May 11 with 1652 views | truckjack |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:50 - May 11 by Highjack |
Yes a picture of her arsehole would probably do the trick. |
Ok thats your level, well done. If you'd like to pm me your further thoughts and phone no we can continue this discussion at your level no problem | | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 08:31 - May 11 with 1597 views | jack_lord |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:26 - May 11 by truckjack |
Thought id chip in my pennies worth. Where has this rumour of a vat increase come from, source?
The case of people getting child benefit while living in Barbados, well, if you take the Barbados 'glamour-thought' out of it, if youve worked all your life and contributed to the tax & NI system then why shouldn't you get the pay back from the state? For example, my gran is 100 years old, she worked on a farm until she was 40 then worked in the co-op until she was 65. Now she lives in an old peoples complex in her own little house and has to pay full rent. Her friend, 'Betty' lives in the same complex but has never worked, Betty doesn't have to pay for the rent, its paid by the state. |
I understand your sentiments on the above. I have seen it first hand where someone has worked all their lives and saved a pot of money to see it all go on sheltered housing while a neighbour in the same complex has done the opposite and is funded by the state.
The moral question is what do you do with the likes of "Betty"? |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 08:46 - May 11 with 1589 views | Lohengrin |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 08:31 - May 11 by jack_lord |
I understand your sentiments on the above. I have seen it first hand where someone has worked all their lives and saved a pot of money to see it all go on sheltered housing while a neighbour in the same complex has done the opposite and is funded by the state.
The moral question is what do you do with the likes of "Betty"? |
Another pertinent question would be where are Betty's family when she needs them, assuming she has any? |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 10:01 - May 11 with 1554 views | yescomeon |
If we are to live in a country of low tax then perhaps measure such as making the minimum wage in a company 10% that of the CEO, or making all companies owned by the people that work there only. Doesn't help those out of work but reduces the gap between the rich and the poor. |  |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 10:04 - May 11 with 1553 views | perchrockjack |
TWO people in a nursing home side by side .
ONE who s sold her home to pay ,the other someone who never thought of self provision and/or pisssed their cash away all their lives.
Anyway... those on a good wage getting a tax cut will ,of course, either forego it or give it to the poor and, or will they vulnerable person.. | |
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| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 23:58 - May 11 with 1477 views | truckjack |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 08:31 - May 11 by jack_lord |
I understand your sentiments on the above. I have seen it first hand where someone has worked all their lives and saved a pot of money to see it all go on sheltered housing while a neighbour in the same complex has done the opposite and is funded by the state.
The moral question is what do you do with the likes of "Betty"? |
That is a very good point, maybe some tax must be paid throughout your life out of benefits if you are not working, to pay towards the future care needs. If you work at any period then this would build up a tax credit towards this? | | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:01 - May 12 with 1472 views | truckjack |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 01:06 - May 11 by truckjack |
Ok thats your level, well done. If you'd like to pm me your further thoughts and phone no we can continue this discussion at your level no problem |
Shhhhhhhh...... | | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:17 - May 12 with 1464 views | LeonisGod |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 10:01 - May 11 by yescomeon |
If we are to live in a country of low tax then perhaps measure such as making the minimum wage in a company 10% that of the CEO, or making all companies owned by the people that work there only. Doesn't help those out of work but reduces the gap between the rich and the poor. |
This remains the problem of course. We are a low tax country yet people expect the state to provide. Genuinely, I'd be happy to pay £1,000 more in tax if it meant our teachers weren't being laid off (happening now in Swansea), NHS wasn't stretched to the limit, less people were sleeping rough, roads weren't full of potholes, etc.). |  | | |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 19:18 - May 16 with 1366 views | trampie |
| Tax cuts on the way for 30 million people on 00:17 - May 12 by LeonisGod |
This remains the problem of course. We are a low tax country yet people expect the state to provide. Genuinely, I'd be happy to pay £1,000 more in tax if it meant our teachers weren't being laid off (happening now in Swansea), NHS wasn't stretched to the limit, less people were sleeping rough, roads weren't full of potholes, etc.). |
Nice post LeonisGod.  | |
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