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at 12:23 14 Dec 2024

Does that bank of mum and dad get the triple lock pension šŸ˜‰
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at 12:00 14 Dec 2024

Theyā€™re both too low.

But that working person may well have a mortgage/rent to pay and dependants to provide for.
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at 10:24 14 Dec 2024

I donā€™t mean to come across in that way.

Itā€™s more looking at how we level things up when weā€™re in such a hole.

Things have changed in that I get that the frustration of those whoā€™ve done everything right and feel theyā€™re not getting the benefit.

Iā€™ve still got a few years till retirement and I canā€™t see the state being able to look after me. Iā€™m concentrating on sorting myself out.

Its not just a financial things that have changed for younger people, itā€™s housing, the family unit, communities, final salary pensions, jobs for life, student loans etc.

Iā€™m not ageist, Iā€™ll just always push back against the idea that young people have never had it so good. I wouldnā€™t want to be aged 20 now for anything.
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at 10:06 14 Dec 2024

I disagree.

Itā€™s children who are the worst off IMO.
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at 10:05 14 Dec 2024

That would indeed be interesting.

Living away Iā€™ve not really got a strong opinion on devolution so I keep a keen eye if that did happen.
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at 09:44 14 Dec 2024

I get the protest vote but when weā€™re thinking about actually handing them some power, what do people think theyā€™ll do with it?
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at 09:23 14 Dec 2024

Absolutely agree that the state pension is far too low and itā€™s incredibly a sad that so many are on a breadline and they should be helped.

However, as an age group overall they hold a lot of the countryā€™s wealth. As you say, who is going to pay?

Universal payments mean that as well as protecting the needy weā€™re giving money to the wealthy.
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at 09:18 14 Dec 2024

Iā€™m curious as to which of Reformā€™s policies ( apart from reducing immigration) are proving tempting to voters?
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at 21:52 13 Dec 2024

The issue is if public sector pay continues to lag behind the private sector, as it has for pretty much the last 15 years, we wonā€™t be able to fill posts.

Almost all public sector jobs are PAYE so a solid tax raiser. That money is use to pay pensions.

Itā€™s a real worry.
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at 20:14 12 Dec 2024

Genuinely confused šŸ¤·šŸ»
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at 20:04 12 Dec 2024

Iā€™m not sure what weā€™re disagreeing about?

Iā€™ve said vacancies are a massive problem and that targeted are missed.

The figures I quoted are similar to the ones in the article you shared.

I think thereā€™s a mix up somewhereā€¦.
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at 19:25 12 Dec 2024

5 - 10 years ago Iā€™d have agreed with you but there have been fast improvements since then.

The sector was pretty slow to accept research based practice but that has changed quite dramatically and it the older teachers who are running to keep up atm.

As I said thatā€™s a pretty recent thing.

Edit:

I donā€™t the the education part is broken, itā€™s picking up the bits that once were health and social services that has really made things difficult.
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at 18:52 12 Dec 2024

Thereā€™s around 4000 vacancies in England at this time. Recruitment targets are consistently missed and the population is growing.

That not taking into account non specialists.

Round my way, there are large numbers of northern Irish, Canadians and south Asians coming in.
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at 18:42 12 Dec 2024

Just got in from work after dealing with the most horrendous child protection issue, coordinating childrenā€™s services and the police.

Childrenā€™s services shut shop at 5pm and directed me to the emergency worker who is one person on a phone. It took the police 7 hours to attend. Not their fault, theyā€™re flat out.

This work wonā€™t appear in any league table, performance measure or inspection report.

This kind of thing happens regularly.

Canā€™t imagine why people arenā€™t coming into the profession.
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at 18:37 12 Dec 2024

Trouble is that in some areas of public service, the pay is not enough to recruit and retrain staff.

What happen then? Either the service gets poorer or immigrants come in and take up the slack.
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at 21:56 11 Dec 2024

Just done a quick Rightmove search for Swansea.

751 houses for sale, 34 of them for 100k or less. Thatā€™s not taking into account the condition of those 34.
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at 21:46 11 Dec 2024

Iā€™m being devils advocate here but why canā€™t that argument be applied to pensioners without private pension?

Young people are told to pull their socks up, work harder, cancel Netflix, stop buying coffee and sort out their future.

Iā€™m not being anti pensioner. Iā€™m being pro young people.
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at 21:38 11 Dec 2024

TBF I didnā€™t realise those had come back. Thatā€™s good news.
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at 21:36 11 Dec 2024

I agree with you about wanting too much too soon, but Iā€™m willing to bet the wage to house price ratio was way lower when you got on the ladder.

Iā€™d did the same as you, bought a flat as my first place and went from there. The flat cost 73k in 2002. It sold again 18 months ago for 206k

House prices are distorting everything.
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at 21:02 11 Dec 2024

Youā€™d still have to find 15 grand as a deposit and that for a house in one of the cheaper areas of the uk.
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