| Subs last night.... 07:33 - Feb 5 with 2128 views | thehat |
I thought on the whole they were great again and changed the game back into our favour especially the Colback sub.
Big discussion in the car on the way home was would it of been better bring Kolli on instead of Lloyd. Kolli seems to be better at keeping possession and the patten of the game was more suited to him especially at home on a tighter pitch. Lloyd could be better away from home on bigger pitches where there is more space to run behind.
Be good to hear other thoughts on this - It's great having these options as they all seem to give you something different depending on the situation. |  | | |  |
| Subs last night.... on 07:44 - Feb 5 with 1897 views | Rsole |
Better subs, better bench and better decisions with Marti back at the game again. Colback is really much better in the sub role, as long as he doesn’t lose his head and that was a very well controlled finish.
I don’t think we’ve always got it right but yesterday, that was a more enjoyable watch because of the planning, the decisions and their timing.
Maybe having the flu gives you more time to ‘work from home’ and think through the next game because it looked like we had the right plan and system for Blackburn and the right subs too.
No reason why we can’t beat the teams above us in the run in and we should go for it. The ones below may prove a little trickier though, as they usually do, especially when fighting for survival. |  |
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| Subs last night.... on 07:53 - Feb 5 with 1865 views | DannyPaddox |
Agree with what you’re saying re: Lloyd & Kolli. To add to it I’d say best use of Lloyd as a sub is when we’re ahead and the oppo are chasing the game - Alfie’s pace on the counterattack then comes to the fore.
As for Colback, I think the bloke’s experience is vital in an increasingly young squad. Lots of talk of letting him go. I’d keep him for at least another season. He’s the perfect player to bring on and put a game to bed. Except last night he didn’t just put the game to bed, he read it a story and sang it a lullabye. |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 08:11 - Feb 5 with 1739 views | stevec |
Frey had stopped their centre backs from pushing up the field. I’m guessing Alfie was more likely to do more of the same than Kolli who isn’t so adept at that part of the game.
I’m still getting used to not being frozen with fear with every additional sub that comes on! |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 08:44 - Feb 5 with 1604 views | QPROslo |
| Subs last night.... on 07:53 - Feb 5 by DannyPaddox |
Agree with what you’re saying re: Lloyd & Kolli. To add to it I’d say best use of Lloyd as a sub is when we’re ahead and the oppo are chasing the game - Alfie’s pace on the counterattack then comes to the fore.
As for Colback, I think the bloke’s experience is vital in an increasingly young squad. Lots of talk of letting him go. I’d keep him for at least another season. He’s the perfect player to bring on and put a game to bed. Except last night he didn’t just put the game to bed, he read it a story and sang it a lullabye. |
Agree with you 100 percent on Colback. | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 08:51 - Feb 5 with 1550 views | wombat |
| Subs last night.... on 08:44 - Feb 5 by QPROslo |
Agree with you 100 percent on Colback. |
thought the subs were perfect myself, issue with kolli is he dosnt hold the ball up , it tends to bounce of f him most of the time , hasnt got any real pace either so alfie coming on espm when thye moved and extra man forward into the middlw was the right move again.
it was intresting when the whistle went that kolli didnt come out onto the pitch and headed immed down the tunnel instead of celebrating with the rest of the squad. |  |
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| Subs last night.... on 08:58 - Feb 5 with 1509 views | BrianMcCarthy |
Being honest, I wanted to see Kolli on as I thought we were more or less guaranteed possession and that Kolli is stronger at making use of possession. |  |
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| Subs last night.... on 09:01 - Feb 5 with 1473 views | Rsole |
| Subs last night.... on 08:58 - Feb 5 by BrianMcCarthy |
Being honest, I wanted to see Kolli on as I thought we were more or less guaranteed possession and that Kolli is stronger at making use of possession. |
I wonder if Marti has already decided who his like for like subs are and that Kolli is more likely to replace someone like Chair than Frey.
On Kolli’s departure, I didn’t see it but I did notice than Ashby joined in with a big smile over his face. | |
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| Subs last night.... on 09:08 - Feb 5 with 1433 views | dmm |
As others have said, Kolli isn't really a lone striker. He might develop into one, but more likely, his natural role is as a '10' or wide attacker. That being the case, we've got lots of those types so where/when does he fit in? |  | | |
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| Subs last night.... on 09:15 - Feb 5 with 1395 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Subs last night.... on 09:01 - Feb 5 by Rsole |
I wonder if Marti has already decided who his like for like subs are and that Kolli is more likely to replace someone like Chair than Frey.
On Kolli’s departure, I didn’t see it but I did notice than Ashby joined in with a big smile over his face. |
Noticed that about Ashby. Great to see. | |
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| Subs last night.... on 09:21 - Feb 5 with 1338 views | gazza1 |
Kolli & Lloyd both play up front but are very different players........I thought we needed 'big & strong' last night and we got that with Lloyd. | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 09:27 - Feb 5 with 1291 views | Paddyhoops |
Love Alfie but maybe it was just me. Didn’t think he was at his ratty best.
He normally closes down defenders at the first opportunity.
Small gripe as I think he’s been great .
Colback and Yang excelled though. | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 09:39 - Feb 5 with 1208 views | Andybrat |
| Subs last night.... on 09:27 - Feb 5 by Paddyhoops |
Love Alfie but maybe it was just me. Didn’t think he was at his ratty best.
He normally closes down defenders at the first opportunity.
Small gripe as I think he’s been great .
Colback and Yang excelled though. |
Dembele soon back on the bench who makes way? | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 09:42 - Feb 5 with 1189 views | BklynRanger |
Thought that too - looked like he got told to cover the gap between the defenders and not get sucked into chasing them - something like that anyway.
Agree with all of the OP though - thought Kolli might have been a better choice to link things up - and I don't see him lacking in pace or physicality really.
Agree about Colback making a difference when he came on - he has a lot of nous about him when he's in the right frame of mind - found space in tight situations. He was also pretty open in his post match about still getting back to fitness. I could see them trying to keep him for another year if he's looking strong by the end of the season. |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 09:42 - Feb 5 with 1183 views | TheChef |
Agreed on best uses of Kolli/Lloyd.
Frey should nearly always start - anyone know why he didn't at Millwall? Mystifying. |  |
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| Subs last night.... on 10:50 - Feb 5 with 986 views | stainrods_elbow |
| Subs last night.... on 09:42 - Feb 5 by BklynRanger |
Thought that too - looked like he got told to cover the gap between the defenders and not get sucked into chasing them - something like that anyway.
Agree with all of the OP though - thought Kolli might have been a better choice to link things up - and I don't see him lacking in pace or physicality really.
Agree about Colback making a difference when he came on - he has a lot of nous about him when he's in the right frame of mind - found space in tight situations. He was also pretty open in his post match about still getting back to fitness. I could see them trying to keep him for another year if he's looking strong by the end of the season. |
I'm ambivalent about Colback. He gives great glue, as I've said, when he's up for it, we do need one or two older heads (as long as they don't lose their heads), but he can be a disciplinary liability (see above), and his fitness record is easily the poorest in the squad. It's also worried me how long it's taken him to come back from his last injury at his age.
* Edit - Just checked the Offish and realised we have an extra year's option on him. * |  |
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| Subs last night.... on 10:51 - Feb 5 with 1005 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Subs last night.... on 09:42 - Feb 5 by TheChef |
Agreed on best uses of Kolli/Lloyd.
Frey should nearly always start - anyone know why he didn't at Millwall? Mystifying. |
Frey should start every game: with Kolli and Lloyd as decent options on the bench he can give everything he’s got for an hour or so before being replaced.
Millwall away seemed to be the perfect match for Frey so odd he wasn’t selected.
Subs warm up near where I’m based at LR and Kolli did seem to have a bit of a cob on when it was clear he wasn’t going to be used. |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 10:54 - Feb 5 with 979 views | TheChef |
| Subs last night.... on 10:51 - Feb 5 by Ned_Kennedys |
Frey should start every game: with Kolli and Lloyd as decent options on the bench he can give everything he’s got for an hour or so before being replaced.
Millwall away seemed to be the perfect match for Frey so odd he wasn’t selected.
Subs warm up near where I’m based at LR and Kolli did seem to have a bit of a cob on when it was clear he wasn’t going to be used. |
Not surprising, as an unused sub I'd be p1ssed off too! | |
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| Subs last night.... on 11:01 - Feb 5 with 933 views | Benny_the_Ball |
The subs were a big factor on both sides. I thought Eustace's changes actually lost Blackburn momentum that they'd built at the beginning of the second half. Marti's changes then swung the momentum back in QPR's favour. The 2 in midfield had worked very hard in the face of physical, aggressive opponents but were tiring. Colback was tailor made for such a match and made a big difference when he came on. Not just in terms if his goal but wrestling back control of the midfield and helping to see out the game fairly comfortably. |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 16:23 - Feb 5 with 619 views | nix |
| Subs last night.... on 10:51 - Feb 5 by Ned_Kennedys |
Frey should start every game: with Kolli and Lloyd as decent options on the bench he can give everything he’s got for an hour or so before being replaced.
Millwall away seemed to be the perfect match for Frey so odd he wasn’t selected.
Subs warm up near where I’m based at LR and Kolli did seem to have a bit of a cob on when it was clear he wasn’t going to be used. |
I'm pleased when they're desperate to get on. Jonathan Varane also came rushing up when they put Colback on and the coach had to say, no Jack. His face fell a bit... |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 16:58 - Feb 5 with 574 views | superstan |
| Subs last night.... on 07:53 - Feb 5 by DannyPaddox |
Agree with what you’re saying re: Lloyd & Kolli. To add to it I’d say best use of Lloyd as a sub is when we’re ahead and the oppo are chasing the game - Alfie’s pace on the counterattack then comes to the fore.
As for Colback, I think the bloke’s experience is vital in an increasingly young squad. Lots of talk of letting him go. I’d keep him for at least another season. He’s the perfect player to bring on and put a game to bed. Except last night he didn’t just put the game to bed, he read it a story and sang it a lullabye. |
I think Colback also steadied the ship when he came on against Luton at home. [Post edited 5 Feb 16:58]
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| Subs last night.... on 17:25 - Feb 5 with 483 views | gazza1 |
| Subs last night.... on 10:50 - Feb 5 by stainrods_elbow |
I'm ambivalent about Colback. He gives great glue, as I've said, when he's up for it, we do need one or two older heads (as long as they don't lose their heads), but he can be a disciplinary liability (see above), and his fitness record is easily the poorest in the squad. It's also worried me how long it's taken him to come back from his last injury at his age.
* Edit - Just checked the Offish and realised we have an extra year's option on him. * |
Colback is a big asset to the team...posters keep going on about his disciplinary record - How bad is it, actually, for a combative player?? He keeps the ball and passes the ball as good as any in the team, works hard, positions himself very well and shows up for the ball better than any of the players. Contrary to firm belief he also gets around the pitch. Yee has negatives and makes errors, etc but so do all of the players.
Last night he added to the Team when he came on as sub late in the game.
I would strongly suggest he his 'big' off the pitch as well, MC is a big supporter of his play as far as I can tell. | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 17:42 - Feb 5 with 434 views | baz_qpr |
I thought the Lloyd sub was the wrong one myself and I dont agree Kolli is best suited as a 10 or wide either. Nothing stuck with Alfie last night to feet and their back line had pace. I said to the guy next to me no long before Colback scored that I would bring on Kolli and move Alfie wide as we were getting stuck in our own half, and Kolli would interplay better with Chair and the wingers and give us greater control and more goal threat |  | | |
| Subs last night.... on 17:48 - Feb 5 with 415 views | gazza1 |
| Subs last night.... on 17:42 - Feb 5 by baz_qpr |
I thought the Lloyd sub was the wrong one myself and I dont agree Kolli is best suited as a 10 or wide either. Nothing stuck with Alfie last night to feet and their back line had pace. I said to the guy next to me no long before Colback scored that I would bring on Kolli and move Alfie wide as we were getting stuck in our own half, and Kolli would interplay better with Chair and the wingers and give us greater control and more goal threat |
Cant believe that you are being negative about the subs....they were big in us winningt he game!!!!!
What, actually, would you have done re replacing players & bringing on subs??...what players, what positions, what instructions to them???? | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 18:02 - Feb 5 with 380 views | baz_qpr |
| Subs last night.... on 17:48 - Feb 5 by gazza1 |
Cant believe that you are being negative about the subs....they were big in us winningt he game!!!!!
What, actually, would you have done re replacing players & bringing on subs??...what players, what positions, what instructions to them???? |
As I said before the goal, I felt we were struggling to get out, keep the ball and create. With the ball coming back off Lloyd to Blackburn every time. I would have brought Kolli on at 9 and moved Lloyd to the left and taken Saito off at that moment. I'm just saying what my opinion was at the time | | | |
| Subs last night.... on 18:11 - Feb 5 with 338 views | gazza1 |
| Subs last night.... on 18:02 - Feb 5 by baz_qpr |
As I said before the goal, I felt we were struggling to get out, keep the ball and create. With the ball coming back off Lloyd to Blackburn every time. I would have brought Kolli on at 9 and moved Lloyd to the left and taken Saito off at that moment. I'm just saying what my opinion was at the time |
Well, I thought on 66 minutes that Frey had run out of steam, we had been doing OKish and I would of replaced him with Lloyd, not Kolli because he would have been bullied by their big defenders. Lloyd challenged well, worked hard, when he came on.....and pressed them when they had the ball Smyth came off and was replaced by the new loanee like he was at Millwall & did well that day so give him another go. He has so much more pace than Kolli. Colback was brought on, not really to score the winner but play football and keep the ball plus moving us forward. Varane was introduced to defend our last third, likewise Fox.
Well played to Mr MC!!! | | | |
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