| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? 14:44 - Nov 7 with 7243 views | TimBowen |
I'm not one of these 'in the know' fans and, while I keep reading/hearing positive news about the potential sale of the club and change of ownership...I can't seem to find anything definitive about the current state of play.
I'm hearing how the negotiations are well advanced, some saying completed! But suggestions made, for no public announcement, are the litigious minded US lawyers, dotting every i and crossing all the t's and because of it, it's all dragging on?
But the question remains, are these sale negotiation rumours even accurate, or are they simply the fantasy, of well meaning but misguided, internet 'fan groups?'
I say this, as the sporting media have been unusually quiet about it all, if it's correct?
Does this mean the negotiations are being held in a professional and so, discreet manner, or is the sale just 'total hogwash' instigated by resentful fans, about the majority owners perceived apathy towards the club?
The reasons behind Company House changes recently, may have been misunderstood. However, it's been the catalyst for desperate fans to get excited about the prospects of us being sold, to what appears (based on unsubstantiated rumours) perfectly credible, committed buyers.
Should anyone have genuine inside sources, I'm sure many of us would like this to be confirmed/clarified/denied, one way or another please. |  | | |  |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:13 - Nov 7 with 1930 views | max936 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 21:42 - Nov 7 by Landore_Jack |
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I'll say it again, Good Riddance! |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:15 - Nov 7 with 1907 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:05 - Nov 7 by max936 |
Brilliant news be glad to see the back of them and their hedge funders most don't even know where Swansea is I bet, that's hedge funds for you I suppose chuck money into it and hope it comes off and makes you a few quid, not sure they made anything this time though. |
We are not, and never have been, owned by a hedge fund. |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 08:18 - Nov 8 with 1608 views | TimBowen |
Happy Days Ladies and Gents!
When I added this topic to the forum, I hoped some enlightened fan(s), could help provide some definitive answers to my questions raised.
Never, did I expect the New York Times, the BBC and 'X' etc etc to provide the type of credible confirmations I was hoping to receive. My timing was strange, but the media replies have produced a warm feeling of relief and positivity about our club's prospects again.
These new owners don't have a magic wand, so they'll need time to effect changes. But how good is it to know the apathy and resentment expressed by such a high percentage of our support, now won't feel that our progress is being impeded and put at a disadvantage, by the negative attitudes towards Swansea by both Levien and Kaplan.
Thank you all for your responses regarding my confusion over the take-over process.
It's so good this morning to be able to think positively about the future of the Swans again. | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 08:22 - Nov 8 with 1600 views | KeithHaynes |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 08:18 - Nov 8 by TimBowen |
Happy Days Ladies and Gents!
When I added this topic to the forum, I hoped some enlightened fan(s), could help provide some definitive answers to my questions raised.
Never, did I expect the New York Times, the BBC and 'X' etc etc to provide the type of credible confirmations I was hoping to receive. My timing was strange, but the media replies have produced a warm feeling of relief and positivity about our club's prospects again.
These new owners don't have a magic wand, so they'll need time to effect changes. But how good is it to know the apathy and resentment expressed by such a high percentage of our support, now won't feel that our progress is being impeded and put at a disadvantage, by the negative attitudes towards Swansea by both Levien and Kaplan.
Thank you all for your responses regarding my confusion over the take-over process.
It's so good this morning to be able to think positively about the future of the Swans again. |
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https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/swanseacity/news/63283 |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:00 - Nov 8 with 1521 views | TimBowen |
I wonder if the afore mentioned American Tyler Morse is one of those 'partners' Keith? | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:02 - Nov 8 with 1516 views | KeithHaynes |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:00 - Nov 8 by TimBowen |
I wonder if the afore mentioned American Tyler Morse is one of those 'partners' Keith? |
Well, he might be 😉
We first put something on him on the forum early last December.
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:31 - Nov 8 with 1394 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:05 - Nov 7 by max936 |
Brilliant news be glad to see the back of them and their hedge funders most don't even know where Swansea is I bet, that's hedge funds for you I suppose chuck money into it and hope it comes off and makes you a few quid, not sure they made anything this time though. |
It may be a hedge fund it may not. Hedge fund is simple a method of pooled investment.
It sounds as if the Levien Kaplan fund will be closed down and the Swansea city share re assigned to the new owners.
It is a management buyout with Coleman ( management) but the club with his partners. |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 12:20 - Nov 8 with 1333 views | union_jack |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:31 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It may be a hedge fund it may not. Hedge fund is simple a method of pooled investment.
It sounds as if the Levien Kaplan fund will be closed down and the Swansea city share re assigned to the new owners.
It is a management buyout with Coleman ( management) but the club with his partners. |
Are you going to buy them a leaving card and a little thank you present maybe?😒 |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 12:43 - Nov 8 with 1285 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 12:20 - Nov 8 by union_jack |
Are you going to buy them a leaving card and a little thank you present maybe?😒 |
I would say Morris is leading the change, remember he didn't invest when the LLC were diluting the shares. It will be interesting to see the exact shareholding when the dust settles. |  | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 13:09 - Nov 8 with 1235 views | raynor94 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:31 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It may be a hedge fund it may not. Hedge fund is simple a method of pooled investment.
It sounds as if the Levien Kaplan fund will be closed down and the Swansea city share re assigned to the new owners.
It is a management buyout with Coleman ( management) but the club with his partners. |
You must be heartbroken  |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 15:37 - Nov 8 with 1108 views | QJumpingJack |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:31 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It may be a hedge fund it may not. Hedge fund is simple a method of pooled investment.
It sounds as if the Levien Kaplan fund will be closed down and the Swansea city share re assigned to the new owners.
It is a management buyout with Coleman ( management) but the club with his partners. |
what are your thoughts on the Coleman quote - the club needs to move own from the previous owners.
Quite unbelievable....? |  | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 15:47 - Nov 8 with 1068 views | Landore_Jack |
Can somebody confirm if Jake Silverstein will be retaining his shares? I cannot see anything on BBC. |  |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 16:00 - Nov 8 with 1032 views | shaggyrogers |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:31 - Nov 8 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It may be a hedge fund it may not. Hedge fund is simple a method of pooled investment.
It sounds as if the Levien Kaplan fund will be closed down and the Swansea city share re assigned to the new owners.
It is a management buyout with Coleman ( management) but the club with his partners. |
I think they are buying the company - Swansea LLC which holds the swans shares. | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 16:03 - Nov 8 with 1025 views | shaggyrogers |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:15 - Nov 7 by Dr_Winston |
We are not, and never have been, owned by a hedge fund. |
I'm pretty sure the Trust started 'the hedge fund ' description. It was done no doubt to scaremonger | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 17:21 - Nov 8 with 912 views | vetchonian |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 15:47 - Nov 8 by Landore_Jack |
Can somebody confirm if Jake Silverstein will be retaining his shares? I cannot see anything on BBC. |
According to Colmans official statement Silverstein is being bought out too | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 17:23 - Nov 8 with 899 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 12:20 - Nov 8 by union_jack |
Are you going to buy them a leaving card and a little thank you present maybe?😒 |
I remember the 1982 relegation which led to near catastrophic years and two decades of decline and eventual failure to pay debts to local and other firms.
Levien and Kaplan failed in their mission to expand due to Huw Jenkins s disastrous transfer dealing in the main. He had one bad season out of 15 or so but cost the club dearly.
Levien and Kaplan have admitted failure and 'taken their own medicine' with a cash hit, About $50m perhaps with their partners. They have nor squeezed the new owners too hard over the sale price.
The club is reported to have low debts and having come through Covid indecent shape. Cabango Abdullai Cooper and Cullen have f graduated into the first team which is now stacked with talented 22-23 year old's. Parker Watts Nzingo Hennia Woodward and Govea look like future stars.
They have brought the stadium under their control.
You n know wht I might follow your suggestion. | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 17:24 - Nov 8 with 908 views | Landore_Jack |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 17:21 - Nov 8 by vetchonian |
According to Colmans official statement Silverstein is being bought out too |
Thank you | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 17:37 - Nov 8 with 896 views | SullutaCreturned |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 21:02 - Nov 7 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The Trust position was very clear in February 2015. No one contradicted this until much later when the damage had been done.
Levien and Kaplan were in Swnsea checking out the joint only a few months later sometime in the Summer of 2015. |
The news of the last 24 hours has shown that you keep repeating thinsg that aren't true.
I believe Phil Sumbler has posted on Planetswans that the trust communicated with the previous shareholders saying if the deal was right then an offer for the trusts shares would be considered by members.
Also, your lines about Levein and Kaplan being ambitious for the club...turns out they wanted out and it just needed someone (Coleman, Cravatt, Morris, Cohen) with the balls to do it and from what I;ve heard Coleman may have been fed up of being over ruled by absent majority partners. Well he's got nowhere to hidde now and I think maybe we'll see improvement with the new regime.
Hopefully it's onward and upward now and we won't see any more of these pointless, repetitve and boring "ah but the trust" posts because if they weren't irrelevant before, they certainly are now.
Until it is proved different we need to give Coleman full backing, get bums back on seats in the stadium so that he and the others can have confidence in their decision. | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 18:03 - Nov 8 with 837 views | max936 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:13 - Nov 7 by max936 |
I'll say it again, Good Riddance! |
Look at them to looking at each other, they're either in love or thought they were on to a good thing, sneaky snidey paring if you'd ever see. | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 18:05 - Nov 8 with 832 views | max936 |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 08:18 - Nov 8 by TimBowen |
Happy Days Ladies and Gents!
When I added this topic to the forum, I hoped some enlightened fan(s), could help provide some definitive answers to my questions raised.
Never, did I expect the New York Times, the BBC and 'X' etc etc to provide the type of credible confirmations I was hoping to receive. My timing was strange, but the media replies have produced a warm feeling of relief and positivity about our club's prospects again.
These new owners don't have a magic wand, so they'll need time to effect changes. But how good is it to know the apathy and resentment expressed by such a high percentage of our support, now won't feel that our progress is being impeded and put at a disadvantage, by the negative attitudes towards Swansea by both Levien and Kaplan.
Thank you all for your responses regarding my confusion over the take-over process.
It's so good this morning to be able to think positively about the future of the Swans again. |
Lets hope they can magic up deals to keep both centre backs. | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 09:48 - Nov 9 with 600 views | Dr_Winston |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 16:03 - Nov 8 by shaggyrogers |
I'm pretty sure the Trust started 'the hedge fund ' description. It was done no doubt to scaremonger |
They were pretty big news at the time I think so it's not hard to understand why people immediately assumed Kaplan and Co were one and have just run with it ever since despite them clearly not being so and all the evidence to confirm it.
Ownership groups are very common in US sports and increasingly so over here as more and more Americans buy into football clubs. [Post edited 9 Nov 9:49]
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 09:50 - Nov 9 with 594 views | onehunglow |
This change could see more unison within the fan base .
There has clearly been much disaffection with fans and it takes time to get back on track
The right people though can see us start to puff our chests out again .
It’s been a time of tedium for us and the thrill has gone for many .
This could be the catalyst for a new dawn
Pray it is so. | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:02 - Nov 9 with 575 views | Whiterockin |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 09:50 - Nov 9 by onehunglow |
This change could see more unison within the fan base .
There has clearly been much disaffection with fans and it takes time to get back on track
The right people though can see us start to puff our chests out again .
It’s been a time of tedium for us and the thrill has gone for many .
This could be the catalyst for a new dawn
Pray it is so. |
Let's hope so the club could do with a lift. | | | |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:09 - Nov 9 with 555 views | onehunglow |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 10:02 - Nov 9 by Whiterockin |
Let's hope so the club could do with a lift. |
Indeed so.
It would be nice to see fans unite again.
No internecine shyte . Imagine that .
Btw, my comments regarding fans were not meant as a personal jibe at anyone ,simply a case of my stating the obvious that thousands have walked away from the club in a short time . There has to be a reason for this . Things being as they are here and have been for most of this year has stopped me going to games up north but I’ve not missed a game .
I don’t bother with what family I have left over Swansea and I don’t fancy 500 mile round trip alone
Lifey did agree to put me up in his coal shed though .
I’m hoping for a better year in 2025 ,my seventy fifth year on the planet and my 68th as a fan . | |
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| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 11:08 - Nov 9 with 493 views | sons_of_omri |
| The Swans' change of ownership negotiations??? on 22:15 - Nov 7 by Dr_Winston |
We are not, and never have been, owned by a hedge fund. |
Not a hedge in sight | | | |
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