| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:04 - Jun 16 with 1944 views | lassel |
Stating the bleeding obvious but the first half decent team in the knockouts sends England home - hell it might even be one of the 3rd place teams in the first knockout game who do it. |  | |  |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:05 - Jun 16 with 1932 views | paulparker |
Kane needs to drop deeper than being so far up the pitch his range of passing his brilliant
The TAA experiment needs to stop as well he is not a midfielder
Letโs see what happens against Denmark, Serbia are a horrible team to play against |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:05 - Jun 16 with 1936 views | Malintabuk |
I guess a win is a win.... and it often is a good thing to start slowly in a tournament.... and not lose.
But agree with most and have never hidden the fact that I'm not impressed with Southgate as a tactical manager
The left side is a real worry absolutely nothing down that side...must give Eze a chance doen there surely
Guess we have to look at the positive the first 20 odd mins..... Bellingham Rice Guรฉhi and Saka in the first half had decent games
Stones also Marshalled the defence well | | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:05 - Jun 16 with 1925 views | Gloucs_R |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 21:59 - Jun 16 by perpignanR |
We must have 200 free kicks and did fuxk all with them. |
That's not right...
We passed it back 198 times... |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:06 - Jun 16 with 1916 views | Match82 |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 21:59 - Jun 16 by perpignanR |
We must have 200 free kicks and did fuxk all with them. |
I had the same thought. Can't remember the last game I watched which had a team win as many free kicks in the middle third of the pitch. Grealish maybe could have won some a little closer to the box. |  | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:06 - Jun 16 with 1911 views | ted_hendrix |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:01 - Jun 16 by Ned_Kennedys |
Or Eze. Foden was appalling. |
I can't understand why, whenever I've seen him playing for his club he has been superb, tonight I thought he was way off of his game. |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:10 - Jun 16 with 1839 views | LazyFan |
After Englands goal, around 25 mins the Serbia manager moved the Wingbacks higher to outnumber England in the middle and control the game.
It worked as TAA became totally exposed, not knowing whether to go or stay. He stayed, and then Bellingham was on his own. Bellingham is so good that he can take the ball and turn away from two players, so it was not as noticeable until the game wore on. Hence, in the first half, Guรฉhi had a 100% completion rate, but not in the second when he had few options as a pass out.
Luckily, both of England's fullbacks were excellent, especially in the air; remember, this Serb team's average height is over 6 feet. Which is why the Kane long ball did not work as often as it usually does, as Serbia are more capable in the air. Rice was excellent as well. Saka faded in the second half, and Foden was very poor.
Bowen came on and showed that if you give Kane service, he will hit the target. I suspect Southgash will play Gallagher instead of TTA against the Danes as we cannot have TTA standing off their middle and letting them control the game. |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:11 - Jun 16 with 1821 views | LowerloftLad |
How can you have so many class players who want the ball to feet and then play 45mins of pumping the ball 60 feet into the air?.
Complete bore fest,yes we won but Southgate will be beaten on tactics again later down the line. [Post edited 16 Jun 22:13]
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:14 - Jun 16 with 1783 views | Snipper |
Gareth Southgate is like a Lada mechanic in charge of a fleet of Rolls Royceโs. |  | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:15 - Jun 16 with 1761 views | HAYESBOY |
Well that was uninspiring.
We are nowhere near winning this tournament. |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:23 - Jun 16 with 1680 views | Hayesender |
That 2nd half was very underwhelming.
Trent is not a midfielder.
Someone give Foden a man City top.
Jude Bellingham is a modern day Bryan Robson. Different gravy this lad.
The rest need to improve |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:25 - Jun 16 with 1676 views | BlackCrowe |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:23 - Jun 16 by Hayesender |
That 2nd half was very underwhelming.
Trent is not a midfielder.
Someone give Foden a man City top.
Jude Bellingham is a modern day Bryan Robson. Different gravy this lad.
The rest need to improve |
I don't think they do...they need a system that they can flourish in, rather than one of survival. |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:30 - Jun 16 with 1633 views | daveB |
England were fine, played probably the 2nd best team in the group and won, onto the next one
Plenty to improve on, Foden again really poor and needs to deliver at some point for England, is in purely on reputation at the moment. Guehi was excellent at the back, Rice played well and Bellingham is a different level |  | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:32 - Jun 16 with 1628 views | daveB |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:05 - Jun 16 by paulparker |
Kane needs to drop deeper than being so far up the pitch his range of passing his brilliant
The TAA experiment needs to stop as well he is not a midfielder
Letโs see what happens against Denmark, Serbia are a horrible team to play against |
I thought Trent did OK, I'd like to see Wharton in there but probably too soon for him. Of the players we have he's the best option at the moment, may be different come the knockouts | | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:32 - Jun 16 with 1625 views | Ned_Kennedys |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:25 - Jun 16 by BlackCrowe |
I don't think they do...they need a system that they can flourish in, rather than one of survival. |
God knows how uninspiring Southgateโs half time team talk mustโve been: along the lines of โcareful now: donโt take risks ladsโ and โwe hold what we haveโ |  | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:34 - Jun 16 with 1614 views | daveB |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:25 - Jun 16 by BlackCrowe |
I don't think they do...they need a system that they can flourish in, rather than one of survival. |
What system do they want then? Foden given freedom to play where he wants first half, same with Bellingham. There are no shackles on here they just didn't play well | | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:51 - Jun 16 with 1519 views | Lblock |
That went almost exactly as I expected
Uninspiring and one paced, easily outgunned in midfield and the lowest scoring game so far in the tournament
First decent team with anything like a decent midfield and strikeforce and we are gone like a long summer drink.
I hovered on backing 0-0 but went Bellingham at 17/2 so for that Iโm happy.
This is an extremely poorly balanced squad with Safegate giving it all the bravery bollox but shoe horning RWBโs into centre mid and not hooking players clearly struggling and sticking with just because theyโre big household names in England
Weโll qualify now which is a bit more than I expected but thatโll be that |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:51 - Jun 16 with 1515 views | davman |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 20:33 - Jun 16 by rbee |
Excellent passing goal.
Bellingham a red card waiting to happen |
Disagree on Bellingham. Ten times the temperament than Beckham or Rooney had. Knows when the reel it in and to handle being kicked. Did nothing wrong when chest pumping that Serbian - no raised hands, no violent conduct.
The one shining light out there tonight. I am a big fan of both Kane and Rice, but both were really, really poor tonight. Guehi had a good first half but suffered in the second when he was put under pressure. Trippier and Walker OK, TTA poor aside from a couple of quality passes. Foden anonymous, Saka started well but faded badly. Special shout out to Pickford - I think he is an underrated 'keeper and was excellent when called on today.
Boring Southgate though - yes, its important not to lose your first game, but 1-0 up against Serbia and to finish the game with Rice, Mainoo and Gallagher sitting in, inviting pressure was poor. As Marti says, you need to go for that second to kill the game - not doing so has caught Southgate out on more than one occasion in his time as England Manager.
Got to keep reminding ourselves that the team that starts well rarely wins major tournaments and we need to do a hell of a lot of growing into this one from that start... |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:53 - Jun 16 with 1506 views | davman |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 21:56 - Jun 16 by BazzaInTheLoft |
Shit but still won.
Sign of a good side. |
Flat track bullies.
Survive by sh**housing against the lesser teams, then crumble after going 1-0 up against the big boys.
Its England; its what we do! | |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 23:12 - Jun 16 with 1432 views | JamesB1979 |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 22:10 - Jun 16 by LazyFan |
After Englands goal, around 25 mins the Serbia manager moved the Wingbacks higher to outnumber England in the middle and control the game.
It worked as TAA became totally exposed, not knowing whether to go or stay. He stayed, and then Bellingham was on his own. Bellingham is so good that he can take the ball and turn away from two players, so it was not as noticeable until the game wore on. Hence, in the first half, Guรฉhi had a 100% completion rate, but not in the second when he had few options as a pass out.
Luckily, both of England's fullbacks were excellent, especially in the air; remember, this Serb team's average height is over 6 feet. Which is why the Kane long ball did not work as often as it usually does, as Serbia are more capable in the air. Rice was excellent as well. Saka faded in the second half, and Foden was very poor.
Bowen came on and showed that if you give Kane service, he will hit the target. I suspect Southgash will play Gallagher instead of TTA against the Danes as we cannot have TTA standing off their middle and letting them control the game. |
Sorry meant to upvote and ended doing both. Completely agree on TAA. Please can we just play players in their positions for their clubs | | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 23:16 - Jun 16 with 1424 views | bosh67 |
Well now the dust has settled I thought the defence played well. Bellingham is different class. Saka was excellent first half. I really didn't know where Fodin was meant to be playing and nor did Foden. Trent-Arnold didn't quite click. Kane was isolated until he dropped deeper. We dropped way too deep second half.
But, defensively I thought we were well organised but that left flank is a worry. |  |
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 23:20 - Jun 16 with 1412 views | daveB |
England pre Southgate never won opening game of the Euros. 2 wins out of 2 under him, fella knows how to mange tournaments | | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 00:16 - Jun 17 with 1292 views | SydneyRs |
Were Argentina fans this pessimistic after losing their first world cup game against Saudi Arabia?
Awkward team to play against and I've never seen anyone start a tournament on fire and continue like that until the end. 3 points in the first group game is always a great outcome and especially when nobody else in the group gets a win. [Post edited 17 Jun 2:25]
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| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 00:37 - Jun 17 with 1264 views | BazzaInTheLoft |
Am I the only one who thought Serbia were excellent?
Weโll be unlucky to play another team that intense in this tournament. |  | | |
| Serbia ๐ท๐ธ v England ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ Match Thread on 01:33 - Jun 17 with 1200 views | PunteR |
I missed the first half hour, but saw Bellingham boss it. 2nd half i thought he disappeared amongst all the other 11 players behind the ball. Foden is the new Raheem Sterling.
Walker, Rice, and Bowen when he came on looked decent.
Serbia were the better team from what i saw , but they lost.
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