| I agree with Kelvin Keegan 16:58 - Oct 6 with 4777 views | sw02sea |
Could agree more with him. Sick and tired of having the obligatory woman on a sports panel,just to tick the PC box.
What brought it home to me was watching a rugby World Cup match, and at half time there were 2 women on the pitch, reviewing the first half’s play.
How, with all due respect, would they know the forces involved when a fullback is trying to stop a 17 stone winger, running at full speed toward him?
When the England lionesses were playing you had 3 women on the TV panel, plus 1 woman commenting. Where’s the male balance there ?
Even if they are ex-players, there are completely different nuances, between the male physique and that of a woman, which come into effect no matter what sports they are taking part in.
It is totally down to the PC / woke brigade and their perceived entitlement to have their say in everything, even sports. |  | | |  |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:07 - Oct 6 with 917 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:06 - Oct 6 by Gwyn737 |
Is hope everyone would be pro women. |
Oh yeah on every other issue on earth.
I can give you my word on that!
Its not the 60s anymore | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:09 - Oct 6 with 911 views | Gwyn737 |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:07 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Oh yeah on every other issue on earth.
I can give you my word on that!
Its not the 60s anymore |
You wouldn’t think so from this thread. | | | |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:14 - Oct 6 with 899 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:07 - Oct 6 by Gwyn737 |
Happy for their career choice to be limited then?
I’d be happy that women have blazed the trail to make it seem possible. |
I would be happy for them to be at the top of their profession and a roll model for their game.
I would be proud as hell if they were household names for little girls wanting to be footballers (womens game)
Gabby logan+ Clair Balding were superb at sports presenting.
also sue off question of sport.
Never used to give a dam now and again but every single game for diversity.
The white male being made a taboo hire should concern us all.
If they are there for their talent like Gabby and Claire was fair enough.
But getting a job because you have a vagina/gay/black should not be happening at all.
The job should go to the most qualified and skilled, If this was the case I would get use to it.
But its clearly not, I am sick of being told I am this or that because I think for myself. | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:16 - Oct 6 with 897 views | STID2017 |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:07 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Oh yeah on every other issue on earth.
I can give you my word on that!
Its not the 60s anymore |
That last statement coming from you is remarkably hypocritical  |  |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:18 - Oct 6 with 897 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:09 - Oct 6 by Gwyn737 |
You wouldn’t think so from this thread. |
Yes but thats just it pal, Its a separate issue to womens rights you have hit the nail on the head the far left have made it something else.
I can have a preference my opinion wont change a thing but under free speech I should have a right to my own opinion.
That is all it is I would fight to my death for free speech as our fore fathers did.
I might not like a different controversial opinion but I would never silence them. | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:23 - Oct 6 with 890 views | Gwyn737 |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:18 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Yes but thats just it pal, Its a separate issue to womens rights you have hit the nail on the head the far left have made it something else.
I can have a preference my opinion wont change a thing but under free speech I should have a right to my own opinion.
That is all it is I would fight to my death for free speech as our fore fathers did.
I might not like a different controversial opinion but I would never silence them. |
It’s not a far left idea to think it’s ok for a woman to appear in a programme about men’s sport.
Gabby Logan presents male rugby. Claire Balding does men’s golf.
If you’re argument is men are always better you’ll have to explain Clinton Morrison to me. | | | |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:25 - Oct 6 with 888 views | raynor94 |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 18:59 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Omg like get a life 🤣
Are your feeling hurt 🤕
Let me guess if this is twitter you would of reported me.
What because I backed Mason Greenwood and the Spanish guy I am a bad man lol?
Guess what my Daughter will rule her house hold she knows how to think for herself.
While you are all pandering and wishing the hippy world was true she knows the score.
My wife is Beloved and is held higher than any other life form on this planet.
Her opinion is my council.
Guess what even she agrees with me on this!
So stop the I know a Woman needs me to save them bull shit and open your minds.
I have stated I have sat next to women at our stadium with a far greater knowledge.
But raynor you are a beta I can tell. |
Well I certainly hope they are not a "Mental Mrs" like you reckoned all us men have known.
Sorry but I find your views concerning women abhorrent |  |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:26 - Oct 6 with 887 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:16 - Oct 6 by STID2017 |
That last statement coming from you is remarkably hypocritical |
No you are just forming an opinion in your closed mind.
I am very progressive but there are somethings that are better conserved.
When you see an opinion question it, don't come to a conclusion because of your beliefs.
What because I don't want females in every single football pundit job I am somehow Hitler?
I have two questions for you....
Why do you think it is oright to use such strong language against a man you have never met?
Form your own opinion this could be a good DEBATE.
But usually the asleep will just baaaaaaa at you instead of expanding the conversation.
I honestly think this is why we are all at a stalemate.
Do you think a gender or a sexual orientation makes you more qualified for a job? | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:28 - Oct 6 with 884 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:25 - Oct 6 by raynor94 |
Well I certainly hope they are not a "Mental Mrs" like you reckoned all us men have known.
Sorry but I find your views concerning women abhorrent |
ask me why I think that????
I have nearly been stabbed twice, Had my clothes burned because I was visiting my mothers house.
Had my cars smashed up.
Been stalked months after I had walked away....
so excuse me snowflake 😂
(by more than one ex)
but I guess you found the perfect woman first time because you are sooooo interesting 🤔 🥱 [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 19:29]
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:43 - Oct 6 with 860 views | KeithHaynes |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 18:22 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Why isn't she the jiffy of womens rugby then?
Why does she need to be on the mens game?
I see two boxes ticked and thats it.
Its not just the odd women here and there , Its every single match.
I think you might have to close this thread mate its gonna just become politics as the pro women being more qualified than any man ever ,will just look to make out we are thick.
I use to love British people we could have debate without the one side thinking their right so everyone else is a bigot. [Post edited 6 Oct 2023 18:49]
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I will add she talks in the dialect she has had since young, not pretending to be anything else.
I won’t close a genuine discussion down because people can’t write or debate a point without being ridiculous. However, I will ban anyone who does. |  |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:46 - Oct 6 with 838 views | KeithHaynes |
For the first time in a long time we have a discussion forming that needs people to take a view and write them fairly and with thought. Try thinking about the subject without attacking someone who has a view different to yours. Think non judgemental, think others and the affect on them as well as getting your point across. Try not to let bad personal experiences cloud your issue when corresponding a reply. That also works.
Or indeed don’t answer on this thread and take a sip on a cool one.
I’m beginning to realise how I’ve lived so long …
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:46 - Oct 6 with 831 views | SullutaCreturned |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 18:36 - Oct 6 by Gwyn737 |
He won the Balon d’or whilst simultaneously inventing a temperature scale. |
Did he also invent the curly perm...or was that a woman? Kelly Keegan?
You know, I don't object to any pundit if they are good. If we could find an Aardvark that knew it's stuff then fine.
Too many of the men are totally useless and can't even get a full sentence out without umming and ahhhing. Garth Crooks was a tidy player but he issurely the MOST boring pundit ever given screen time.
I do agree though, the balance is wrong. | | | |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:49 - Oct 6 with 824 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:43 - Oct 6 by KeithHaynes |
I will add she talks in the dialect she has had since young, not pretending to be anything else.
I won’t close a genuine discussion down because people can’t write or debate a point without being ridiculous. However, I will ban anyone who does. |
This is why this site is far superior to Twitter!
I was just expecting what has just happened on here.
I know you mean on any side aswell. | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 with 819 views | KeithHaynes |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 18:22 - Oct 6 by Fireboy2 |
Who is Kelvin Keegan? |
I remember Kevin Keelan for those with long teeth. | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 with 816 views | onehunglow |
I’ve met KK many times when he lived in Mold. Cracking fella and lovely wife in Jean.
Balding and Logan are outstanding broadcasters but of their gender are there IMO by virtue of signalling .
The female rugby commentator is an embarrassment
No surprise to see hate speech aimed at KK | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:53 - Oct 6 with 806 views | KeithHaynes |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 by onehunglow |
I’ve met KK many times when he lived in Mold. Cracking fella and lovely wife in Jean.
Balding and Logan are outstanding broadcasters but of their gender are there IMO by virtue of signalling .
The female rugby commentator is an embarrassment
No surprise to see hate speech aimed at KK |
Maggie Alphonso ? | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:54 - Oct 6 with 803 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 by onehunglow |
I’ve met KK many times when he lived in Mold. Cracking fella and lovely wife in Jean.
Balding and Logan are outstanding broadcasters but of their gender are there IMO by virtue of signalling .
The female rugby commentator is an embarrassment
No surprise to see hate speech aimed at KK |
So this has been a debate that has been going on for ages?
I am in my 30s so still a pup at the moment.
I grew up respecting KK he was Newcastle manager when I can first remember him.
His opinion should be respected! | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:55 - Oct 6 with 802 views | Whiterockin |
Back to the original post. I think it is wrong to have token pundits be they male, female, black, white, disabled, non disabled or any other shape or form. They should be there on merit, nothing else really matters, ticking boxes should not exist. |  | | |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:05 - Oct 6 with 758 views | KeithHaynes |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 by onehunglow |
I’ve met KK many times when he lived in Mold. Cracking fella and lovely wife in Jean.
Balding and Logan are outstanding broadcasters but of their gender are there IMO by virtue of signalling .
The female rugby commentator is an embarrassment
No surprise to see hate speech aimed at KK |
Clarify the hate speech., | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:07 - Oct 6 with 751 views | theloneranger |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 18:22 - Oct 6 by Fireboy2 |
Who is Kelvin Keegan? |
He was one "L" of a player. 🤔😂 |  |
| Everyday above ground ... Is a good day! 😎 |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:08 - Oct 6 with 749 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Plenty of poor male and female pundits out there. Just use whoever gives the best insights. A lot of repeated rubbish every weekend at the moment with standard cliches |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:08 - Oct 6 with 740 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:55 - Oct 6 by Whiterockin |
Back to the original post. I think it is wrong to have token pundits be they male, female, black, white, disabled, non disabled or any other shape or form. They should be there on merit, nothing else really matters, ticking boxes should not exist. |
Thats what I tried saying.
Out of curiosity who are your favourite sport broadcasters of all time?
A team of four?
football
Chris kamara , Gary Neville, Andy Robinson , John Mottson.
rugby
Jiffy, Warburton, Shane Williams, Eddy Butler | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:11 - Oct 6 with 725 views | swan_si |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:08 - Oct 6 by RhonddaSwans |
Thats what I tried saying.
Out of curiosity who are your favourite sport broadcasters of all time?
A team of four?
football
Chris kamara , Gary Neville, Andy Robinson , John Mottson.
rugby
Jiffy, Warburton, Shane Williams, Eddy Butler |
Gary Neville 😴, and you can't get anymore woke than him.🤪 |  | | |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:18 - Oct 6 with 709 views | RhonddaSwans |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:11 - Oct 6 by swan_si |
Gary Neville 😴, and you can't get anymore woke than him.🤪 |
I disregard his twitter but his punditry is class.
I like his ripping into bad united losses makes me 😂
I don't rather someone doing a job if they are left or right or even up or down.
If this debate was about champagne socialist him and linker would be champions.
Doesn't mean I don't respect a champions league winners opinion on football.
You cant put a womens champions league winner and men champions league winner in the same bracket.
Its like saying any member of the spain womens team are now all as good pele or messi.... | |
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| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 20:21 - Oct 6 with 702 views | Gwyn737 |
| I agree with Kelvin Keegan on 19:51 - Oct 6 by onehunglow |
I’ve met KK many times when he lived in Mold. Cracking fella and lovely wife in Jean.
Balding and Logan are outstanding broadcasters but of their gender are there IMO by virtue of signalling .
The female rugby commentator is an embarrassment
No surprise to see hate speech aimed at KK |
They are outstanding broadcasters but are there for virtue signalling?
How does that work? | | | |
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