| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! 17:17 - Dec 11 with 6646 views | sw02sea |
I’ve never been so bored with watching The Swans !
MARTIN OUT!!!!!! |  | | |  |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:18 - Dec 11 with 3366 views | onehunglow |
Good lad
You will get insults from all corners now though.
BE PATIENT AND IT WILL COME.
Russ didnt have a close season and then covid,then injuries,then thi then that. It is a con job | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:27 - Dec 11 with 3341 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
Yeah the preseason thing is no longer relevant. So poor on the ball. So many obvious mistakes. |  |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:29 - Dec 11 with 3328 views | KeithHaynes |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:18 - Dec 11 by onehunglow |
Good lad
You will get insults from all corners now though.
BE PATIENT AND IT WILL COME.
Russ didnt have a close season and then covid,then injuries,then thi then that. It is a con job |
If only the swans had put away half the seriously decent chances.
However, the defence is a shambles. |  |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:30 - Dec 11 with 3311 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:27 - Dec 11 by PatchesOHoulihan |
Yeah the preseason thing is no longer relevant. So poor on the ball. So many obvious mistakes. |
Well,it should be obvious but I reckon Russ will be along to say we will brilliant,fantastic unlucky,but didnt take chances. There ya go.
Chances eh.
How to take them.
How not to give them to opponents.
That's it Russ. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:34 - Dec 11 with 3299 views | LittleEnglandJack |
Martin out? Jesus, our fans are more fickle than I thought.
Forest are one of the divisions form sides. I'm more annoyed by the reading and Boro results than I am by today. Today was always going to be a tough game... | | | |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:43 - Dec 11 with 3265 views | BillyChong |
We paid almost £500k to MK Dons for Russ. He’s on a 3 year deal. No way are the yanks going to pay him off. He’s dead set on his style of play, just look back at interviews where he states he won’t go against his beliefs pretty much no matter what. But it may come to a point, as it possibly did earlier in the season, where he had to drop his stubbornness a little. God knows what level of manager the yanks would look to if he did get the chop, and for that reason I hope he succeeds. | | | |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:44 - Dec 11 with 3247 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:34 - Dec 11 by LittleEnglandJack |
Martin out? Jesus, our fans are more fickle than I thought.
Forest are one of the divisions form sides. I'm more annoyed by the reading and Boro results than I am by today. Today was always going to be a tough game... |
We /I am talking in a bet scenario light -the best option if you like.
You cannot tell me there is a better coach out there who would better move our cliub forward.
We are a decent club,recently Premier League-w are not scum or dogs as a club. We have decent fanbase.We deserve better.
Are you happy for this to be replicated and if so for how long.Sis weeks ,six month/2 years. That is the reality we are in.
It is nowt to do with fickle just about risk management. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:07 - Dec 11 with 3183 views | Catullus |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 17:29 - Dec 11 by KeithHaynes |
If only the swans had put away half the seriously decent chances.
However, the defence is a shambles. |
If only we had tried the killer passes when the opportunities were there. Instead we bottled it and went backwards.
Anyway, that game wasn't boring, it was great entertainment. I'm sure the neutral fans and Forest lot will love it on the EFL show. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:10 - Dec 11 with 3153 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:07 - Dec 11 by Catullus |
If only we had tried the killer passes when the opportunities were there. Instead we bottled it and went backwards.
Anyway, that game wasn't boring, it was great entertainment. I'm sure the neutral fans and Forest lot will love it on the EFL show. |
But we ALWAYS go backwards.It is so obvious.
Cooper and a plethora of other managers have worked us out.
We must be the most predicable outfit in the league bar none
We play centre halves as full back and midfielders as CH .Our full backs have no pace so the rest is easy..Staggering to see people supporting martin when such obvious calamity faces us-. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:36 - Dec 11 with 3105 views | KeithHaynes |
Everyone needs to get used to the fact, he isn’t going anywhere. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:48 - Dec 11 with 3062 views | DJack |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:36 - Dec 11 by KeithHaynes |
Everyone needs to get used to the fact, he isn’t going anywhere. |
This, hence why he is sticking to his guns. |  |
| It is far better to grasp the universe as it really is than to persist in delusion, however satisfying and reassuring. - Carl Sagan |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:49 - Dec 11 with 3055 views | PatchesOHoulihan |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:10 - Dec 11 by onehunglow |
But we ALWAYS go backwards.It is so obvious.
Cooper and a plethora of other managers have worked us out.
We must be the most predicable outfit in the league bar none
We play centre halves as full back and midfielders as CH .Our full backs have no pace so the rest is easy..Staggering to see people supporting martin when such obvious calamity faces us-. |
I’m not sure what Cabango and Bennett think about this.
Trying as hard as they can but it shouldn’t be a surprise if a couple of times a game they get skinned by pacy wingers
There’s a reason why historically big centre halves stay in the centre | |
| This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you." |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:50 - Dec 11 with 3048 views | jojaca |
With every week that goes by, I notice more fans around me getting more frustrated. The moans and groans with the sideways, backwards passing, we are playing like we are defending a two goal lead.
We need to cut down the number of passes to get us from one end of the pitch to the other, play with higher tempo, more long balls, mix up play from the back, never let Matt Grimes near a set piece and give 4 at the back a go. |  |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:55 - Dec 11 with 3030 views | KeithHaynes |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:48 - Dec 11 by DJack |
This, hence why he is sticking to his guns. |
I know more and more are getting annoyed, but it is a fact, we have to get used to It as Corny said. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 19:11 - Dec 11 with 2986 views | dobjack2 |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:49 - Dec 11 by PatchesOHoulihan |
I’m not sure what Cabango and Bennett think about this.
Trying as hard as they can but it shouldn’t be a surprise if a couple of times a game they get skinned by pacy wingers
There’s a reason why historically big centre halves stay in the centre |
Their skill set doesn't fit either outside centre back for the reasons you set out. I can see what Martin wants to play but don't think we currently have the players to play it. When the opposition attack with pace after we turn over possession it destroys us.
I suspect the next two windows will involve wheeling and dealing; centre backs and wing backs especially. Doesn't help that there are issues with all of our strikers apart from Piroe.
We'll have a better idea of where Martin is after a dozen games of next season. | | | |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:05 - Dec 11 with 2848 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:49 - Dec 11 by PatchesOHoulihan |
I’m not sure what Cabango and Bennett think about this.
Trying as hard as they can but it shouldn’t be a surprise if a couple of times a game they get skinned by pacy wingers
There’s a reason why historically big centre halves stay in the centre |
Indeed.
You know it,I know,most do o WHY does Martin insist on this and ruining players. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:07 - Dec 11 with 2848 views | KeithHaynes |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:05 - Dec 11 by onehunglow |
Indeed.
You know it,I know,most do o WHY does Martin insist on this and ruining players. |
Because he knows he has time. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:09 - Dec 11 with 2841 views | mahoss |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:36 - Dec 11 by KeithHaynes |
Everyone needs to get used to the fact, he isn’t going anywhere. |
A few more performances like that and he will go.
I can assure you…….. | | | |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:10 - Dec 11 with 2840 views | Boundy |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:55 - Dec 11 by KeithHaynes |
I know more and more are getting annoyed, but it is a fact, we have to get used to It as Corny said. |
Well if its true then the muted boos today are only going to get louder | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:12 - Dec 11 with 2822 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:07 - Dec 11 by KeithHaynes |
Because he knows he has time. |
and Time is a majician.
I hope he doesnt take us down. He's lucky now as Pboro,Derby and Barnsley look the ones to fall but make no mistake he wont be screwing up a play off as Cooper did.
You will change your stance eventually Keith,trust me.
I dont need thanks.Its God's work I do. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:20 - Dec 11 with 2813 views | jackrabbit |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 18:50 - Dec 11 by jojaca |
With every week that goes by, I notice more fans around me getting more frustrated. The moans and groans with the sideways, backwards passing, we are playing like we are defending a two goal lead.
We need to cut down the number of passes to get us from one end of the pitch to the other, play with higher tempo, more long balls, mix up play from the back, never let Matt Grimes near a set piece and give 4 at the back a go. |
Hear! Hear! 92% pass completion apparently. 75% of which were 10 yards sideways or backwards. Gruesome to watch. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 20:21]
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:22 - Dec 11 with 2796 views | onehunglow |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:20 - Dec 11 by jackrabbit |
Hear! Hear! 92% pass completion apparently. 75% of which were 10 yards sideways or backwards. Gruesome to watch. [Post edited 11 Dec 2021 20:21]
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Dear God.
Even Andy Robinson seems to have caught this disease of passing stats.FFS la, look at what it is. Passing from keeper to full backs then back again even when 3-1 behind. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:23 - Dec 11 with 2801 views | KeithHaynes |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:12 - Dec 11 by onehunglow |
and Time is a majician.
I hope he doesnt take us down. He's lucky now as Pboro,Derby and Barnsley look the ones to fall but make no mistake he wont be screwing up a play off as Cooper did.
You will change your stance eventually Keith,trust me.
I dont need thanks.Its God's work I do. |
He won’t take us down transition. | |
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| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:39 - Dec 11 with 2752 views | sw02sea |
75% possession and we loose 1 fecking 4 AT HOME!!
Anyone that believes Russell Martin is the new messiah is sadly delusional. | | | |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:43 - Dec 11 with 2728 views | KeithHaynes |
| I’ve had a guts full of Martinball !!! on 20:39 - Dec 11 by sw02sea |
75% possession and we loose 1 fecking 4 AT HOME!!
Anyone that believes Russell Martin is the new messiah is sadly delusional. |
Messiahs and legends don’t lead football teams.
We are stuck with him. And we have to accept this season is just how it is.
It will change. | |
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