| Murder of a policeman last night 14:21 - Aug 16 with 11363 views | raynor94 |
Absolutely shocking, more so that 10 males aged from 13-30, have been arrested.
On top of all the recent stabbings, what on earth is this Country coming too |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:53 - Aug 18 with 2214 views | Swanjaxs |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:49 - Aug 18 by Fireboy2 |
There was less bother on the streets in those days.
No fvcking knives, just a bit of fistycuffs and when someone went down more often than not you never went into kick them om the floor. |
Absolutely mate, times have changed for the worse and will continue to deteriorate, the police in this country will be routinely armed sooner rather than later mark my words |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:58 - Aug 18 with 2207 views | Fireboy2 |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:53 - Aug 18 by Swanjaxs |
Absolutely mate, times have changed for the worse and will continue to deteriorate, the police in this country will be routinely armed sooner rather than later mark my words |
Even though its wrong you are probably correct jax.
We are not far behind the US in everything. |  | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 22:30 - Aug 18 with 2182 views | controversial_jack |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:49 - Aug 18 by Fireboy2 |
There was less bother on the streets in those days.
No fvcking knives, just a bit of fistycuffs and when someone went down more often than not you never went into kick them om the floor. |
There were punch ups every weekend in the 70s and 80s, and putting the boot in was normal. |  | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 07:17 - Aug 19 with 2121 views | Cooperman |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 17:36 - Aug 18 by controversial_jack |
It would have to be suspicion of a certain offence.Suspicion in itself is not enough, but we will find out soon enough, but I bet 10 won't be charged |
Are you valleyboy? |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 11:06 - Aug 19 with 2075 views | bryncochjack |
Police given another 24 hour extension to question 10 people. Hopefully building up sufficient evidence to nail the guilty ones. |  | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 22:47 - Aug 19 with 1990 views | raynor94 |
20 year old from Reading, charged with murder and theft of a quad, the rest released on bail | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 23:38 - Aug 19 with 1961 views | NotLoyal |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 16:44 - Aug 18 by controversial_jack |
They really do need solid evidence of who was involved if they are going to arrest 10 people.Just because they were there at the time doesn't apportion guilt unless it was planned, which is very doubtful. |
I'm leaving this one out to the coppers on here. Or people who know.
What I can say CJ is that no evidence is needed to arrest, I'm thinking you are confusing grounds to arrest with evidence to charge. |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 03:23 - Aug 20 with 1917 views | Cooperman |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 23:38 - Aug 19 by NotLoyal |
I'm leaving this one out to the coppers on here. Or people who know.
What I can say CJ is that no evidence is needed to arrest, I'm thinking you are confusing grounds to arrest with evidence to charge. |
You're right and he's confused. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 06:43 - Aug 20 with 1878 views | Pacemaker |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 23:38 - Aug 19 by NotLoyal |
I'm leaving this one out to the coppers on here. Or people who know.
What I can say CJ is that no evidence is needed to arrest, I'm thinking you are confusing grounds to arrest with evidence to charge. |
CJ knows nothing of the law but as a Freeman of the land thinks he does, he believes the DVLA owns your car and we are all pawns in a state run by goblins from another planet.
You are correct that you only need to suspect someone of an offence to arrest but to charge that suspect with an offence the police have to provide sufficient evidence to the CPS ( who are independent of the police) to show that the evidence passes their threshold test. Which that there is a more than 80% chance of conviction.
The police would have been struggling to provide enough evidence in this time frame for all ten suspects. I would imagine that they have concentrated on the main suspect and then bailed the others for evidence to be collated for any other offences committed by any of the others. |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 11:30 - Aug 21 with 1741 views | controversial_jack |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 06:43 - Aug 20 by Pacemaker |
CJ knows nothing of the law but as a Freeman of the land thinks he does, he believes the DVLA owns your car and we are all pawns in a state run by goblins from another planet.
You are correct that you only need to suspect someone of an offence to arrest but to charge that suspect with an offence the police have to provide sufficient evidence to the CPS ( who are independent of the police) to show that the evidence passes their threshold test. Which that there is a more than 80% chance of conviction.
The police would have been struggling to provide enough evidence in this time frame for all ten suspects. I would imagine that they have concentrated on the main suspect and then bailed the others for evidence to be collated for any other offences committed by any of the others. |
Which is what i said | | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 00:29 - Aug 22 with 1642 views | NotLoyal |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 11:30 - Aug 21 by controversial_jack |
Which is what i said |
Or not. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 18:49 - Sep 18 with 1464 views | bryncochjack |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 06:43 - Aug 20 by Pacemaker |
CJ knows nothing of the law but as a Freeman of the land thinks he does, he believes the DVLA owns your car and we are all pawns in a state run by goblins from another planet.
You are correct that you only need to suspect someone of an offence to arrest but to charge that suspect with an offence the police have to provide sufficient evidence to the CPS ( who are independent of the police) to show that the evidence passes their threshold test. Which that there is a more than 80% chance of conviction.
The police would have been struggling to provide enough evidence in this time frame for all ten suspects. I would imagine that they have concentrated on the main suspect and then bailed the others for evidence to be collated for any other offences committed by any of the others. |
Three charged so far despite CJ's bluster
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-49746155 | | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:45 - Sep 18 with 1388 views | Catullus |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 18:12 - Aug 16 by majorraglan |
Take 20,000 cops off the street, release more offenders from prison earlier on tag etc, make sweeping changes to the probation system so that it becomes a shambles.....
On top of that, in some places the fabric of society is breaking down, gangs are taking over, kids with limited prospects are seeing gangsters and drug dealers making big money and want a piece of the action as they see its their only way to make money etc. There’s quite a few contributory factors and blame can be laid at lots of doors, but Cameron and May are responsible for quite a bit of this. |
Indeed, May tried to claim the 20,00 cut in officers wasn't to blame but we all reckon different eh. On top of which she was a bl00dy useless Home secretary and en even worse PM.
It might be posturing from Bojo but putting more police back on the streets can't be a bad thing.
The county lines gangs, the criminals among the traveller communities, they need getting control of.
Then of course the terrorist threat, in Northern Ireland the "New IRA" is accused of planning to kill the police there, of planting viable explosive devices.
Meanwhile Soldier F is up in court for 2 murders and 5 attempted murders but dozens of murdering IRA members are walking around with a letter of immunity from Blair.
To my mind, anyone who attacks an emergency services worker (any emergency service) should face a minimum 5 years and killing one should merit 30 years, both with no chance of parole. Just call me Jeffries. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 23:04 - Sep 18 with 1358 views | DJack |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:45 - Sep 18 by Catullus |
Indeed, May tried to claim the 20,00 cut in officers wasn't to blame but we all reckon different eh. On top of which she was a bl00dy useless Home secretary and en even worse PM.
It might be posturing from Bojo but putting more police back on the streets can't be a bad thing.
The county lines gangs, the criminals among the traveller communities, they need getting control of.
Then of course the terrorist threat, in Northern Ireland the "New IRA" is accused of planning to kill the police there, of planting viable explosive devices.
Meanwhile Soldier F is up in court for 2 murders and 5 attempted murders but dozens of murdering IRA members are walking around with a letter of immunity from Blair.
To my mind, anyone who attacks an emergency services worker (any emergency service) should face a minimum 5 years and killing one should merit 30 years, both with no chance of parole. Just call me Jeffries. |
You make some good points but I must say that:
Soldier F must face trial...and then it should be decided if it his him or his superiors responsible for any issue discovered. (The issue with Blair and some of the "pardons" is a separete issue). This thinking is based upon how the law stands now, it might be shit but we must allow the judges to execute their role and pass judgement... hopefully a couple of ex-ministers and/or very senior military get brought to accout (unlikely but a lovely thought).
"County lines gangs" are as much a societal issue as they are a policing issue but our problem is that conservatives (both small and capital c) have a dogmatic viewpoint that refuses to see this. |  |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 06:03 - Sep 19 with 1303 views | Cooperman |
You will have to forgive CJ as he has absolutely zero grasp on how the process works. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 09:04 - Sep 19 with 1257 views | perchrockjack |
Ah,our beloved travellers.Give our country nothing but take all in front of them.
Scum who literally feed off old and disabled people right in our midgst ,then cry when they get caught and have an army of legal leeches eager to give them of their very best.
How does that feel sirjohnalot?
Crime is a war where one side (plod) have rules and the criminals (scum) don't BUT we have to stick to the rules and by "we" I mean us all;they do not. They take the piss.Everytime.
Things need to change.
They won't | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 16:12 - Sep 19 with 1209 views | raynor94 |
Jed Foster has now been released, his case has been discounted after further investigation | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 18:56 - Sep 19 with 1181 views | perchrockjack |
Ah bejesus that s great.
Jed will out out tonight thieving from us all | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:29 - Sep 19 with 1154 views | Catullus |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 23:04 - Sep 18 by DJack |
You make some good points but I must say that:
Soldier F must face trial...and then it should be decided if it his him or his superiors responsible for any issue discovered. (The issue with Blair and some of the "pardons" is a separete issue). This thinking is based upon how the law stands now, it might be shit but we must allow the judges to execute their role and pass judgement... hopefully a couple of ex-ministers and/or very senior military get brought to accout (unlikely but a lovely thought).
"County lines gangs" are as much a societal issue as they are a policing issue but our problem is that conservatives (both small and capital c) have a dogmatic viewpoint that refuses to see this. |
Oh I agree that Soldier F should face trial but what's good for a soldier should also be good for a terrorist.
Whay did Blairs immunity letters prove, maybe that terrorism does work? And even then, the new IRA is sactive and trying to murder PSNI officers. All this talk of the backstop being needed to prevent the troubles restarting, what is it exactly when an group called the IRA are plamting bombs?
The law should apply to everyone equally. We know that it doesn't and we all too easily accept it. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 21:30 - Sep 19 with 1152 views | perchrockjack |
Cat.
You hit the nail on the head. | |
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| Murder of a policeman last night on 09:46 - Sep 22 with 1078 views | SwanDownUnder |
non police are murdered every day. | | | |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 10:14 - Sep 22 with 1046 views | NotLoyal |
| Murder of a policeman last night on 09:46 - Sep 22 by SwanDownUnder |
non police are murdered every day. |
And non policemen are put out the public's way by policemen. | |
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