| Notre Dame 18:46 - Apr 15 with 24837 views | londonlisa2001 |
Dreadful pictures emerging of what looks like a devastating fire at Notre Dame in Paris.
An awe inspiring cathedral. Hopefully it can be saved and the damage repaired.
It’s absolutely gut wrenching to see such beauty being destroyed. |  | | |  |
| Notre Dame on 18:06 - Apr 16 with 2390 views | MrSwerve |
| Notre Dame on 17:54 - Apr 16 by Alberto_Swinglehurst |
It's great to see how many people on here care enough to let us all know how much they care. Clearly, they're brilliant people.
All I can remember about Notre Dame was buying firecrackers on a school trip and letting them off in the entrance. [Post edited 16 Apr 2019 17:57]
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Was that yesterday by any chance?
Would explain a lot. |  |
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| Notre Dame on 18:26 - Apr 16 with 2348 views | londonlisa2001 |
What, I’ve mentioned India and Egypt?
Hardly Judith Chalmers is it.
The world is a fascinating place. And you can get to most of it for less than the price of a fortnight in Cornwall to be honest. Get to all of it for less than the price of a weekend in CentreParcs :-) | | | |
| Notre Dame on 22:50 - Apr 16 with 2140 views | chad |
| Notre Dame on 15:09 - Apr 16 by londonlisa2001 |
A quick read of this thread shows much of what’s wrong with the world.
No respect for anything. |
Respect. OK let’s decide who shows or deserves it here.
One wades in with moron, thick, thick as mince, thick as shit, evil little shit, stupid, utter moron.
The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy. |  | | |
| Notre Dame on 23:00 - Apr 16 with 2131 views | omarjack |
Oh hi guys I'm back!
"reads this abomination of a thread"
..lol nevermind..my mistake for believing you people have any human decency..
"signs off for the next couple of months" |  |
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| Notre Dame on 23:30 - Apr 16 with 2113 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Notre Dame on 22:50 - Apr 16 by chad |
Respect. OK let’s decide who shows or deserves it here.
One wades in with moron, thick, thick as mince, thick as shit, evil little shit, stupid, utter moron.
The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy. |
“The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy.”
You got all that from Darran saying ‘no biggie’?
Wow.
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| Notre Dame on 23:53 - Apr 16 with 2101 views | Drizzy |
| Notre Dame on 23:00 - Apr 16 by omarjack |
Oh hi guys I'm back!
"reads this abomination of a thread"
..lol nevermind..my mistake for believing you people have any human decency..
"signs off for the next couple of months" |
Thank f*ck for that. |  |
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| Notre Dame on 23:53 - Apr 16 with 2101 views | Darran |
| Notre Dame on 22:50 - Apr 16 by chad |
Respect. OK let’s decide who shows or deserves it here.
One wades in with moron, thick, thick as mince, thick as shit, evil little shit, stupid, utter moron.
The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy. |
I think Lisa was drunk. |  |
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| Notre Dame on 07:41 - Apr 17 with 2038 views | waynekerr55 |
| Notre Dame on 20:09 - Apr 16 by Cooperman |
Woburn? |
Not sure - Mrs Kerr has booked |  |
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| Notre Dame on 07:42 - Apr 17 with 2036 views | waynekerr55 |
| Notre Dame on 21:08 - Apr 16 by Banosswan |
Center Parcs! |
Edited for you, Mr Banos! | |
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| Notre Dame on 07:43 - Apr 17 with 2033 views | waynekerr55 |
| Notre Dame on 23:30 - Apr 16 by londonlisa2001 |
“The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy.”
You got all that from Darran saying ‘no biggie’?
Wow.
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| Notre Dame on 09:28 - Apr 17 with 1991 views | Lohengrin |
| Notre Dame on 23:30 - Apr 16 by londonlisa2001 |
“The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy.”
You got all that from Darran saying ‘no biggie’?
Wow.
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No he didn’t but he looks to be channeling de Benoist or Faye with a line like that.
This place never ceases to surprise me. |  |
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| Notre Dame on 09:41 - Apr 17 with 1981 views | dickythorpe |
Someone must have and idea of how fire started. Surely there must be a hunch? |  | | |
| Notre Dame on 09:45 - Apr 17 with 1979 views | Lohengrin |
| Notre Dame on 09:41 - Apr 17 by dickythorpe |
Someone must have and idea of how fire started. Surely there must be a hunch? |
An accident, most likely an electrical short to do with the renovation works, Dicky. I’ve not heard or read of any possibility of anything malicious. The beautiful oak timbering to the roof is over 800-years-old, so dry it wouldn’t have taken too much before fire caught hold. | |
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| Notre Dame on 09:46 - Apr 17 with 1975 views | JackSomething |
| Notre Dame on 19:00 - Apr 15 by Darran |
It’ll be restored to better than what it was before.
No biggie. |
Classic bit of trolling there Darran. Textbook.
Respond to a perfectly innocuous post with something inflammatory, thereby getting the original poster and those who agree with them to respond angrily, which leads to others posting to defend your post, and the whole thing descends into arguments rather than a discussion of the original post.
You could teach those scamps Fath and DYSS a thing or two... |  |
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| Notre Dame on 10:04 - Apr 17 with 1949 views | Highjack |
| Notre Dame on 22:50 - Apr 16 by chad |
Respect. OK let’s decide who shows or deserves it here.
One wades in with moron, thick, thick as mince, thick as shit, evil little shit, stupid, utter moron.
The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy. |
Don’t be too harsh on Lisa, it’s her default response to anybody with a different opinion to her to call them thick. It’s probably a coping mechanism.
Sarcasm and dark humour works for other people. We are all different which should be celebrated. A world where we all act and think the same would be a horrible world.
I hope I haven’t shown a lack of respect, obviously the loss of such old craftsmanship and architecture is devastating. The only person or thing I have possibly shown disrespect to in this thread is that bloody Jenn, but I’m ok with that. |  |
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| Notre Dame on 10:06 - Apr 17 with 1947 views | chad |
| Notre Dame on 23:30 - Apr 16 by londonlisa2001 |
“The other succinctly explores and encapsulates metaphysical identity concepts through the medium of classic comedy.”
You got all that from Darran saying ‘no biggie’?
Wow.
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Ha, no, not “No biggie”. Although it seems the leader of France, expressed almost identical sentiments in a less compact format.
I am of course referring to the “Triggers broom” comment (hence through the medium of classic comedy). A modern idiom for the ship of Theseus paradox, a philosophical debate about the endurance of identity.
In this instance consideration of the essence of sameness, evoked by comments here that Notre Dame would not be the same after renovation. However as pointed out by lifelong, it has already been renovated many times, so has not been the same over many iterations of change. | | | |
| Notre Dame on 12:46 - Apr 17 with 1885 views | Lohengrin |
| Notre Dame on 10:04 - Apr 17 by Highjack |
Don’t be too harsh on Lisa, it’s her default response to anybody with a different opinion to her to call them thick. It’s probably a coping mechanism.
Sarcasm and dark humour works for other people. We are all different which should be celebrated. A world where we all act and think the same would be a horrible world.
I hope I haven’t shown a lack of respect, obviously the loss of such old craftsmanship and architecture is devastating. The only person or thing I have possibly shown disrespect to in this thread is that bloody Jenn, but I’m ok with that. |
”A world where we all act and think the same would be a horrible world.”
It would have been quicker if you’d just said China.  | |
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| Notre Dame on 13:08 - Apr 17 with 1870 views | dickythorpe |
| Notre Dame on 09:45 - Apr 17 by Lohengrin |
An accident, most likely an electrical short to do with the renovation works, Dicky. I’ve not heard or read of any possibility of anything malicious. The beautiful oak timbering to the roof is over 800-years-old, so dry it wouldn’t have taken too much before fire caught hold. |
Whoosh! | | | |
| Notre Dame on 13:10 - Apr 17 with 1867 views | Lohengrin |
Aye, sorry about that. I’ve only managed to get about eight hours sleep in the last fifty.   | |
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| Notre Dame on 13:20 - Apr 17 with 1857 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Notre Dame on 10:06 - Apr 17 by chad |
Ha, no, not “No biggie”. Although it seems the leader of France, expressed almost identical sentiments in a less compact format.
I am of course referring to the “Triggers broom” comment (hence through the medium of classic comedy). A modern idiom for the ship of Theseus paradox, a philosophical debate about the endurance of identity.
In this instance consideration of the essence of sameness, evoked by comments here that Notre Dame would not be the same after renovation. However as pointed out by lifelong, it has already been renovated many times, so has not been the same over many iterations of change. |
Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
The problem with the Trigger’s Broom comment is not that I didn’t understand the point being made chad, but that the point was based on an incorrect understanding of the renovation work that has previously been carried out. Which is why I responded ‘no, it’s not’ to Darran’s assertion.
Previous renovations have not replaced the fundamental structure of the cathedral - the roof support timbers that have burned were 800 plus year old oaks, cut down c. 1160. The North Rose Window still consists of 800 year old glass.
The spire which collapsed was not original, but was a 19th century reconstruction). Internal statuary was not original. But a remarkable amount of the main structure of the building was original.
And Macron actually said that he was sad to see part of ‘us’ (the French) burn. Which isn’t really an identical sentiment to ‘no biggie’.
Of course they have to pledge to rebuild it. And they will. And it will be beautiful. But that’s not the point. | | | |
| Notre Dame on 13:58 - Apr 17 with 1823 views | Lohengrin |
| Notre Dame on 13:20 - Apr 17 by londonlisa2001 |
Yeah, I was being sarcastic.
The problem with the Trigger’s Broom comment is not that I didn’t understand the point being made chad, but that the point was based on an incorrect understanding of the renovation work that has previously been carried out. Which is why I responded ‘no, it’s not’ to Darran’s assertion.
Previous renovations have not replaced the fundamental structure of the cathedral - the roof support timbers that have burned were 800 plus year old oaks, cut down c. 1160. The North Rose Window still consists of 800 year old glass.
The spire which collapsed was not original, but was a 19th century reconstruction). Internal statuary was not original. But a remarkable amount of the main structure of the building was original.
And Macron actually said that he was sad to see part of ‘us’ (the French) burn. Which isn’t really an identical sentiment to ‘no biggie’.
Of course they have to pledge to rebuild it. And they will. And it will be beautiful. But that’s not the point. |
”And Macron actually said that he was sad to see part of ‘us’ (the French) burn.”
Shameless politicking from the Gallic Blair it was too. This is the same Macron if you remember, Lis, at the time of the Presidential debates who sneered at the hapless Valls that his policy was laicite - secularism - and he had no intention of being “discrete” about it either now or in the future.
Since the fire he and his advisors have had one eye on the media and the other on Marion Marechal who, frankly, terrifies them.They are desperately manoeuvring to try and occupy the ground they think she’s advancing toward. It’s a nauseating spectacle to behold when you see it for what it is. | |
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