| Syria World War 3 10:42 - Apr 11 with 86924 views | Lord_Bony |
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| Syria World War 3 on 12:45 - Apr 12 with 2495 views | Lord_Bony |
Looks like Macron will lead France into action wth the US. He does nt need the approval of the French parliament to take military action.
Apparently,he's now got all the evidence he needs so no UN inspection is needed. Needless to say we'll follow close behind.
Madness,the Russian missile defence system awaits...
https://www.express.co.uk/news/world/945092/world-war-3-syria-france-macron-chem
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| Syria World War 3 on 12:53 - Apr 12 with 2471 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Syria World War 3 on 11:24 - Apr 12 by Ebo |
Russia supplies most of the gas to Europe at the moment.
Qatar had plans for a pipeline through Syria to bring gas into Europe.
Assad refused permission to build the pipeline as it is a Russian ally.
Iran also has plans to build a similar pipeline to Europe to sell its gas to the continent. This has Russian approval because Russia is allied to Iran and their gas supply is less than Qatar so they wouldn’t be as bigger competitor.
The US is allied with Qatar where it has a military base. It wants the pipeline to come from Qatar so it’s allies can compete with Russia in the European gas market.
All this has led to the proxy war in Syria. The west want to remove Assad and replace him with a leader who will allow the Qatar pipeline rather than Iran’s.
The rest is propaganda. |
The whole thing is a battle for gas supplies between Russia and the US.
We should stay well clear in my view. I think what is happening on the ground there is appalling and distressing (and I do believe that chemical attacks are happening) but I can't see why we get involved. I particularly believe the government MUST not take any action without a full debate in Parliament.
The gas to us bit is a bit of a red herring though. We only get about 1% -2 % of our gas from Russia (it's slightly up this year after the cold winter and we use Russian liquified gas as an emergency cold weather top up, but not by much). It's Germany and Italy that account for much of the gas imports from Russia in Europe. The issue for Russia is that the EU are planning to move a far bigger chunk from Gazprom to US shale gas and are building ports to allow this. |  | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:08 - Apr 12 with 2446 views | controversial_jack |
| Syria World War 3 on 12:53 - Apr 12 by londonlisa2001 |
The whole thing is a battle for gas supplies between Russia and the US.
We should stay well clear in my view. I think what is happening on the ground there is appalling and distressing (and I do believe that chemical attacks are happening) but I can't see why we get involved. I particularly believe the government MUST not take any action without a full debate in Parliament.
The gas to us bit is a bit of a red herring though. We only get about 1% -2 % of our gas from Russia (it's slightly up this year after the cold winter and we use Russian liquified gas as an emergency cold weather top up, but not by much). It's Germany and Italy that account for much of the gas imports from Russia in Europe. The issue for Russia is that the EU are planning to move a far bigger chunk from Gazprom to US shale gas and are building ports to allow this. |
Yes, It's all about strategy. It's the 19th century great game all over again, and another cold war. Russia is winning the battle for control of resources and the Yanks don't like it | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:11 - Apr 12 with 2441 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Syria World War 3 on 12:53 - Apr 12 by londonlisa2001 |
The whole thing is a battle for gas supplies between Russia and the US.
We should stay well clear in my view. I think what is happening on the ground there is appalling and distressing (and I do believe that chemical attacks are happening) but I can't see why we get involved. I particularly believe the government MUST not take any action without a full debate in Parliament.
The gas to us bit is a bit of a red herring though. We only get about 1% -2 % of our gas from Russia (it's slightly up this year after the cold winter and we use Russian liquified gas as an emergency cold weather top up, but not by much). It's Germany and Italy that account for much of the gas imports from Russia in Europe. The issue for Russia is that the EU are planning to move a far bigger chunk from Gazprom to US shale gas and are building ports to allow this. |
Not sure we should stand by, having signed up to the chemical weapons convention. The ,Russians blocking an independent investigation via the UN have really challenged the convention. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:22 - Apr 12 with 2435 views | trampie |
Are they doing a number on Russia ?, has it been in the pipeline for a few years ?, in Syria everytime terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda are encircled and on the verge of absolute defeat there is a chemical attack, or the West says 'let them go' or Britain, America, France or Israel start bombing, it stands out like a sore thumb.
Are they afraid of the influence Russia will have in Syria if the West allow the Jihadis to be beaten ?
We are on the wrong side we are fighting for regime change alongside ISIS and various assorted other head choppers, as bad as the likes of Saddam, Gadhafi and Assad were/are they have said words to the effect of 'you don't know what they are like', the West are hell bent on putting 'their' puppets in charge of countries and most of the time they are worse than the crowd they disposed of, if the West got rid of Assad then the worry is the likes of IS will take over, if we go to war in the Middle East then not only will the headchoppers take over if we get our way, but there will be more refugees heading our way and the possibility of more terrorist attacks heading our way.
The West have backed a coup in Ukraine on Russia's border, the West have missiles in the Baltic states on Russia's border, America the leader of the West has started some kind of trade war with China.
The West is afraid of losing its World dominance, but would the elite in the West start a World war before they lose their dominance and before the pendulum swings too far, thinking they can win and stay in charge of World affairs ?
Frightening times, basically blaming Russia for a chemical attack in Syria, if there was a chemical attack by Assad who is winning so some say it makes little sense, why bring Russia into it ?, they are there at Assad's request to fight IS yes, but mentioning them in conjunction with a chemical attack it just seems to be that Trump and May and the West are itching for war with Russia, its madness on our part, where is the proof Russia has done anything in Syria, fight the good fight yes but don't end the World or get millions killed for no reason or for a reason that does not fit the crime or for a made up reason for some kind of imperialist agenda. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:25 - Apr 12 with 2430 views | bluey_the_blue |
OPCW back UK findings.
How embarassing. Clearly they are in on it too. All those tools who claimed it wasn't Novichok or however it's spelt look a tad silly. Next they'll claim OPCW are in on it too... it being a zonist plot or something... [Post edited 12 Apr 2018 13:26]
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:28 - Apr 12 with 2426 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:22 - Apr 12 by trampie |
Are they doing a number on Russia ?, has it been in the pipeline for a few years ?, in Syria everytime terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda are encircled and on the verge of absolute defeat there is a chemical attack, or the West says 'let them go' or Britain, America, France or Israel start bombing, it stands out like a sore thumb.
Are they afraid of the influence Russia will have in Syria if the West allow the Jihadis to be beaten ?
We are on the wrong side we are fighting for regime change alongside ISIS and various assorted other head choppers, as bad as the likes of Saddam, Gadhafi and Assad were/are they have said words to the effect of 'you don't know what they are like', the West are hell bent on putting 'their' puppets in charge of countries and most of the time they are worse than the crowd they disposed of, if the West got rid of Assad then the worry is the likes of IS will take over, if we go to war in the Middle East then not only will the headchoppers take over if we get our way, but there will be more refugees heading our way and the possibility of more terrorist attacks heading our way.
The West have backed a coup in Ukraine on Russia's border, the West have missiles in the Baltic states on Russia's border, America the leader of the West has started some kind of trade war with China.
The West is afraid of losing its World dominance, but would the elite in the West start a World war before they lose their dominance and before the pendulum swings too far, thinking they can win and stay in charge of World affairs ?
Frightening times, basically blaming Russia for a chemical attack in Syria, if there was a chemical attack by Assad who is winning so some say it makes little sense, why bring Russia into it ?, they are there at Assad's request to fight IS yes, but mentioning them in conjunction with a chemical attack it just seems to be that Trump and May and the West are itching for war with Russia, its madness on our part, where is the proof Russia has done anything in Syria, fight the good fight yes but don't end the World or get millions killed for no reason or for a reason that does not fit the crime or for a made up reason for some kind of imperialist agenda. |
I think you'll find the Russians have denied any chemical attack and blocked an UN independent investigation into the chemical attack. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:30 - Apr 12 with 2425 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:11 - Apr 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
Not sure we should stand by, having signed up to the chemical weapons convention. The ,Russians blocking an independent investigation via the UN have really challenged the convention. |
Yes i understand that, and in many ways I hate to stand by and watch while such appalling acts are taking place.
But this showdown on energy between Russia and the US could lead to us becoming embroiled once more in an unwinnable war for many years. I'd certainly like to see us exercise great caution before doing anything, and as I say, I don't want to see us act at all without a full parliamentary debate and vote. I know the government don't need to do that, but I'd be extremely unhappy if May did not seek parliamentary approval. Putin and Trump are both basket case and I just can't see this being anything other than a disaster for years. | | | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:34 - Apr 12 with 2419 views | JACKMANANDBOY |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:30 - Apr 12 by londonlisa2001 |
Yes i understand that, and in many ways I hate to stand by and watch while such appalling acts are taking place.
But this showdown on energy between Russia and the US could lead to us becoming embroiled once more in an unwinnable war for many years. I'd certainly like to see us exercise great caution before doing anything, and as I say, I don't want to see us act at all without a full parliamentary debate and vote. I know the government don't need to do that, but I'd be extremely unhappy if May did not seek parliamentary approval. Putin and Trump are both basket case and I just can't see this being anything other than a disaster for years. |
Well maybe some other action, rather than military, is appropriate, not sure what can be done with Russia blocking the UN. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:43 - Apr 12 with 2409 views | Ebo |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:25 - Apr 12 by bluey_the_blue |
OPCW back UK findings.
How embarassing. Clearly they are in on it too. All those tools who claimed it wasn't Novichok or however it's spelt look a tad silly. Next they'll claim OPCW are in on it too... it being a zonist plot or something... [Post edited 12 Apr 2018 13:26]
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Which is a portable chemical agent that can be made anywhere, not just in Russia. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 13:53 - Apr 12 with 2399 views | trampie |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:28 - Apr 12 by JACKMANANDBOY |
I think you'll find the Russians have denied any chemical attack and blocked an UN independent investigation into the chemical attack. |
The Russians wanted an immediate investigation, the Americans wanted to set up a new body to investigate. [Post edited 12 Apr 2018 13:54]
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:09 - Apr 12 with 2372 views | DJack |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:43 - Apr 12 by Ebo |
Which is a portable chemical agent that can be made anywhere, not just in Russia. |
Not entirely correct. It requires state level facilities and by state level I'm mean state level CW production facilities. It also requires the exact "recipe". One of the misconceptions is that people believe that as it is a binary weapon using easily obtainable chemicals that it is easy to make...fallacy.
Personally I suspect that the only other country with the "recipe" is the US and I also believe that the UK has a sample but not the "recipe".
That said this line of discussion should really be on the other thread as the CW attack in Syria is a different case and this only serves to muddy the water. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:15 - Apr 12 with 2365 views | trampie |
The last war vote in Parliament the Welsh, Scots and Irish prevented the English from taking us to war, the English were all for war, will May risk that again ? | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:15 - Apr 12 with 2362 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 13:43 - Apr 12 by Ebo |
Which is a portable chemical agent that can be made anywhere, not just in Russia. |
But...
I thought the mantra from the left was that it couldn't have been Novichok as they'd have died.
Awkward. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:19 - Apr 12 with 2358 views | trampie |
Seen a poll and it said that twice as many Brits are against a missile attack against Syria than are in favour. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:37 - Apr 12 with 2342 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:15 - Apr 12 by trampie |
The last war vote in Parliament the Welsh, Scots and Irish prevented the English from taking us to war, the English were all for war, will May risk that again ? |
It is not possible for Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs to outvote English MPs.
You really are phenomenally boring with this incessant trolling. | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:44 - Apr 12 with 2331 views | Loyal |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:19 - Apr 12 by trampie |
Seen a poll and it said that twice as many Brits are against a missile attack against Syria than are in favour. |
That will be English people probably.
Most people in my road want a war as they are piss bored with what's on tv these days. |  |
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:46 - Apr 12 with 2327 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:19 - Apr 12 by trampie |
Seen a poll and it said that twice as many Brits are against a missile attack against Syria than are in favour. |
Link to poll please? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:49 - Apr 12 with 2324 views | trampie |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:37 - Apr 12 by londonlisa2001 |
It is not possible for Welsh, Scottish and Northern Irish MPs to outvote English MPs.
You really are phenomenally boring with this incessant trolling. |
Oh I made great play on this at the time Lisa, no outlet was reporting this fact, I seen a breakdown list of how MP's voted and very interestingly virtually every Welsh, Scots and Irish constituency MP to a man and woman no matter what party they belonged to voted against war, yet the majority of English constituency MP's voted for war.
The Welsh, Scots and Irish combined managed to stop the will of the majority of English MP's, only just because the huge amount of English MP's compared to Welsh/Scots/Irish MP's but on this occasion the Celtic fringe stopped the English taking us to war which the English wanted to do. [Post edited 12 Apr 2018 14:54]
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:50 - Apr 12 with 2321 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:49 - Apr 12 by trampie |
Oh I made great play on this at the time Lisa, no outlet was reporting this fact, I seen a breakdown list of how MP's voted and very interestingly virtually every Welsh, Scots and Irish constituency MP to a man and woman no matter what party they belonged to voted against war, yet the majority of English constituency MP's voted for war.
The Welsh, Scots and Irish combined managed to stop the will of the majority of English MP's, only just because the huge amount of English MP's compared to Welsh/Scots/Irish MP's but on this occasion the Celtic fringe stopped the English taking us to war which the English wanted to do. [Post edited 12 Apr 2018 14:54]
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Show us on the doll where an English person touched you... | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:55 - Apr 12 with 2311 views | trampie |
You should be banned for nonsense like that Bluey. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 14:58 - Apr 12 with 2306 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:55 - Apr 12 by trampie |
You should be banned for nonsense like that Bluey. |
Compared to your utter bollocks, trampie... that's mild.
Now, where's this link to the poll that you've seen? | | | |
| Syria World War 3 on 15:11 - Apr 12 with 2284 views | Ebo |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:15 - Apr 12 by bluey_the_blue |
But...
I thought the mantra from the left was that it couldn't have been Novichok as they'd have died.
Awkward. |
You are awkward as you believe everything that comes out of that disgusting bitch Theresa May's cake hole. | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 15:12 - Apr 12 with 2279 views | Ebo |
| Syria World War 3 on 14:55 - Apr 12 by trampie |
You should be banned for nonsense like that Bluey. |
He will ban himself soon Tramp, playoffs are coming and guess who is in them?  | |
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| Syria World War 3 on 15:14 - Apr 12 with 2275 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Syria World War 3 on 15:11 - Apr 12 by Ebo |
You are awkward as you believe everything that comes out of that disgusting bitch Theresa May's cake hole. |
I'm guessing with that woman hate you struggle with relationships.
OPCW are in on the plot are they?
If it looks like a duck, smells like a duck, quacks like a duck and is incredibly tasty, it's a duck. | | | |
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