| Dowd 20:28 - Apr 7 with 4034 views | kingo |
Fat freak couldn't see the two handed push on Bosingwa but couldn't wait to get his whistle out to give Wigan free kicks around the box. Only wanted to look one way |  |
| RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat |
| |  |
| Dowd on 01:11 - Apr 8 with 1038 views | QPRDave |
| Dowd on 01:07 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Redknapp had no complaints. He kicked the guy in the head for the love of God man. It's Zamora's fault. The QPR player was wrong. It's ok to admit it. |
I just added a bit Northern , and i apologise for the dad remark, i had no knowledge of your father's passing
edit and for grumpy tw*t remark too,....i'm the grumpy one [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
|  | | |
| Dowd on 01:13 - Apr 8 with 1023 views | TacticalR |
The fact that Northernr denies the conspiracy shows he is part of the conspiracy! |  |
| |
| Dowd on 01:18 - Apr 8 with 1009 views | QPRDave |
| Dowd on 01:13 - Apr 8 by TacticalR |
The fact that Northernr denies the conspiracy shows he is part of the conspiracy! |
  | | | |
| Dowd on 01:50 - Apr 8 with 994 views | amhoop |
Late, high, lazy and straight in the face, red card everyday of the week, intent is irrelevant. Do think the 4th official had a big say, if dowd or lino thought it was red advantage wouldn't have been played, dowd played advantage and lino never flagged |  | | |
| Dowd on 02:16 - Apr 8 with 981 views | QPR_Jim |
The worst part is, whatever you think of premier league refs, the one's in the championship are even worse. |  | | |
| Dowd on 04:29 - Apr 8 with 967 views | BklynRanger |
I didn't think the linesman was saying "it's a red". Looked like he said "it was high" a couple of times, and Dowd did look like he wasn't looking to send Zamora off - called him by his first name with pursed lips.
It's a fcuked situation, no doubt about it. I think it was a combination of a poor decision by BZ to challenge so fiercely for a ball in a nothing area, a lack of awareness of where his foot was going to end up in relation to a shorter player if he missed, and, to be honest, effort - pumped up stupid effort which brought on a bad decision.
This whole club has been trying to make up ground since last October and its become a disease - no poise, no gumption, none of that, and we have to watch the brutal effects of it and try to get on with our days afterwards. Fcuking medals all round. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
|  | | |
| Dowd on 07:41 - Apr 8 with 917 views | AgedR |
Yesterday in the Loft at about 4.30 it was a conspiracy, Dowd a fat twxt and the lino a tosxer.
Last night, it was harsh and inconsistent with the way Wigan are treated by officials.
This morning, I feel a bit if a fool... |  |
| |
| Dowd on 07:47 - Apr 8 with 914 views | sevenhoop |
| Dowd on 01:07 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Redknapp had no complaints. He kicked the guy in the head for the love of God man. It's Zamora's fault. The QPR player was wrong. It's ok to admit it. |
i sit low in Ellerslie near the half-way line. It always was a straight red (although I seemed to be the only one around who thought it - sometimes I wonder how some of you lot, who turn up so "one-eyed", never seeing anything wrong in what we do, but everything wrong in what opponent/the ref does, can ever enjoy a game as your whole view of it must be skewed). Zamora goes in high, hs opponent heads it and, in that split-second, Zamora then delierately shoves his boot into his face, stupid f***ing tw@t.
This season (as last) has been one of deep frustratoin, compounded by some awful individual moments/choices by players - Mbia, for all that he was superb yesterday (although I am growing tired of his big-girls-blouse histrionics) was just foolish in giving away the free kick. Tarabbt was cowardly in the wall. The most crucial game at Villa only a couple of weeks ago, look at that p*ss-week "challnenge" by Jenas just before Villa's third.
Oh, and by the way, agree that Dowd is not up to this. He is way too far off the pace too often. |  | | |
Login to get fewer ads
| Dowd on 08:00 - Apr 8 with 907 views | Walnut |
| Dowd on 01:07 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Redknapp had no complaints. He kicked the guy in the head for the love of God man. It's Zamora's fault. The QPR player was wrong. It's ok to admit it. |
I'm as biased as they come & always on the look out for poor calls by officials. Despite that and despite their bloke ducking slightly into the header & Zamora only looking at the ball, that was a red all day long. I'm still uncomfortable about how the red was reached. At the time & on TV it looked like Dowd missed the seriousness as opposed to trying to play advantage and as usual, the lino, being a bottle merchant ignored it rather than wave furiously at what he'd alledgedly just witnessed. Red Card, correct. But IF the lino bottled the call then only piped up AFTER being asked then that shows him up as a coward. I didn't think 4th officials had access to monitors but if he did and advised the lino then thats a can of worms opened there. Don't read this wrong, he had to go but how they got there hums a bit.
| | | |
| Dowd on 09:56 - Apr 8 with 883 views | robith |
I really really hate Dowd.
Nothing to do with the red, more just how infuriating it is watching an obese man wheeze around the pitch gesticulating like Mussolini in his pomp
|  | | |
| Dowd on 10:22 - Apr 8 with 868 views | Walnut |
| Dowd on 09:56 - Apr 8 by robith |
I really really hate Dowd.
Nothing to do with the red, more just how infuriating it is watching an obese man wheeze around the pitch gesticulating like Mussolini in his pomp
|
And just to clutch at a few more straws, we woz robbed by the officials, including Dowd, up at Wigan. Their first came from a corner given when it should have been our goal kick & their 2nd goal was offside, oh yes it was | | | |
| Dowd on 12:23 - Apr 8 with 833 views | A40Bosh |
If that incident had been a Wigan player on a QPR player, we would have been screaming for an imprisonment term for a minimum of 6 months, followed by a life time ban from football for the player for a deliberate boot in the face. Furthermore we would have been questioning the Wigan player's "previous", questioning the calibre of his parents and family and stating that the ref bottled it by not shooting him there and then before brandishing a red card.
Bobby was doing his usual good job up front of holding before he lost the plot
M'Bia had had another good game a la Villa, had a brilliant assist before he lost the plot.
Same old, same old. You just knew that when we went 1-0 up against all the odds we would still manage to lose the plot and that is exactly what we did and exactly why we will be relegated in a couple of weeks time.
It has nothing to do with a fat ref. |  |
| |
| Dowd on 12:25 - Apr 8 with 826 views | Juzzie |
The officials were poor but we are our own wrost enemies. Neither the ref, the linesman or even 'arry can be blamed for some of the kamikaze stuff the players have been doing recently.
|  | | |
| Dowd on 13:20 - Apr 8 with 785 views | dodge_stoke_r |
| Dowd on 00:43 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
Phil Dowd is a poor referee, barely fit enough to referee in this league, and in the past he has given many awful, awful decisions against QPR. If you compare him to my father - who was a proper QPR fan and a fcking fantastic bloke who is sadly missed - again it will be the last thing you do on this message board.
The linesman didn't flag because Dowd waved advantage on - both acted completely correctly. The play broke down and Dowd awarded a free kick - as he should do. Dowd tended to the injured player first - as he should do. Then he spoke to the linesman - as he should do. The linesman advised it was a red card - which it was. A red card was shown. Absolutely correct decision, reached in the correct way. |
That first paragraph smacks a little bit of ''my bat, my ball'' |  | | |
| Dowd on 13:37 - Apr 8 with 767 views | R_from_afar |
| Dowd on 13:20 - Apr 8 by dodge_stoke_r |
That first paragraph smacks a little bit of ''my bat, my ball'' |
We are ranting and raving about which individual was at fault for blowing our million to one shot at survival....in the 32nd game of a season in which the team has collectively been abyssmal.
Yes, the Mbia foul was stupid but he had a great game and set up the goal. There would not even have been time for that free kick if Mbia's colleagues, notably Hill and Mackie, had managed to waste some time. Hill gave the ball away with a terrible free kick and Mackie lost control of the ball when he should been sitting on in the corner.
I only hope that next year, we can be a more disciplined, professional outfit, with better levels of concentration - and effort - and a focus on getting the basics right and using our heads. Sticking to positions, tracking back, using set pieces wisely.... School kids know this but sometimes, Rangers play like they have thin air between their ears.
The sad thing is that if we had not thoroughly messed up the bulk of our season so far, a 1-1 draw when playing with 10 men for 70+ minutes would've been a good result.
Roll on next season.
RFA
Those things all add up over the course of a season |  |
| "Things had started becoming increasingly desperate at Loftus Road but QPR have been handed a massive lifeline and the place has absolutely erupted. it's carnage. It's bedlam. It's 1-1." |
| |
| Dowd on 13:38 - Apr 8 with 735 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dowd on 00:12 - Apr 8 by Northernr |
My goodness me.
Never the QPR players fault is it?
Zamora put his boot in a player's face. Dowd played advantage because Wigan had the ball - we always moan referees don't play advantage. Then he awarded the free kick - we always moan when referees don't go back and award a free kick having initially played advantage. Then he dealt with the injured player first and foremost - as he's supposed to do. Then he gave himself time to think - fans always ask for referees to give themselves time to think. Then he went across to his linesman - fans always ask why they don't consult with their linesmen. The linesman clearly said "I think it's a red Phil." Dowd nodded, almost reluctant to do it, but sent him off.
It was the correct decision. Reached methodically, not in a rash moment. It was a good example of a team of officials working together. Why not ask why Bobby and his poorly hip was suddenly able to hoist his leg up to head height and kick a bloke in the face when with a little bit more effort and concentration he could have challenged him fairly for the header?
That, as well as the Mbia free kick at the end, were the correct decisions. No injustice. No bias. No poor officiating. The correct decisions against two fcking idiot over paid brain dead fcking idiots.
But no. It's the referee's fault. Big conspiracy.
Pathetic. [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
|
I agree it was a red Clive, but no way did Dowd see it as that from his angle at the time.
Why am I so sure? At any level and especially at this level you do are taught time and time and again NEVER to play advantage on a red card (unless a goal is about to be scored).
That for me, along with the fact that although incident within AR's "area of credibility" he didn't flag made the decision "messy"
On the free kick at the end Dowd actually took the trouble to double check with AR about supposed foul on Bosingwa (after Boswinga's reaction) - you could see him look over and slightly shake his ahead at AR as if to say "Not a foul for me, you?"
As you say not his fault we threw away 2 points yesterday.
I'm dissapoointed we didn't keep possesion before that when Adel tried to play Mackie in.
In less desperate times he surely would have just put his foot on the ball called Jamie in short and played it to him, HR mentioned that post match. | | | |
| Dowd on 13:40 - Apr 8 with 732 views | PinnerPaul |
| Dowd on 00:33 - Apr 8 by QPRDave |
Alright Northern explain to me why at that Wigan game V the Toon the 4th offic didn't pipe up then?
Yet today he did........The lino did not flag, so why did he (and you can clearly see him say red card) then tell the ref what the decision is?...He didn't see it, and for Dowd to go to him he is saying that he didn't see it either.....so who's reffing the f*ckin game ? .....the bloke on the side of the pitch.
Btw the Wigan player ducked into it, ...it wasn't intentional, seen yellow cards given at the most........Remember the media foray when Nani got red carded for similar?
Is phil Dowd your dad or something.....or is it just northun thing you have to come across as a grumpy tw*t
|
How many times this season does this have to be explained, the ONLY offence that has to be deliberate to be penalised is handball.
| | | |
| Dowd on 13:48 - Apr 8 with 724 views | CroydonCaptJack |
As a humorous aside, was anyone else here in X Block? In the second half Dowd had actually given us a free kick but was subject to such abuse he looked straight up at us and just chuckled. |  | | |
| Dowd on 14:20 - Apr 8 with 705 views | Neil_SI |
I think the majority of what Clive has said is on the money here. It was a red card, no matter how they came to the decision, it was the correct one.
Likewise, I am not impressed with Dowd's physique and the way he officiates matches. He's appears to operate in that square area, rather than running the traditional diagonal lines, so his fitness is a big question mark.
But for all the abuse the officials took, I thought the match was officiated okay in terms of the majority of the decisions, even if there were a couple of points where the linesman was clearly behind play and unable to make what could or should have been an offside call. He also made a couple that were possibly subjective, or easier for us in the stands to call, because he was at ground level, but nothing out of the ordinary really.
It was a little frustrating he was behind play once or twice, but those situations materialised quickly and are the ones where they can get caught out. |  | | |
| Dowd on 20:59 - Apr 8 with 635 views | kingo |
Most of this thread has debated the sending off, which wasn't the point I was originally making and after watching it at half time I could see why. It was more to do with the way that Dowd officiated towards the end and particularly in added on time. Several incidents annoyed me, one was the push on Bosingwa, which he didn't want to look at. The other was the dive by Di Santos that he didn't give, then played about a minute of play that ended in Mbia being hacked to the floor and he then decideds to give a free kick to Wigan. Figuereo carried out far worse fouls on Townsend that Dowd turned a bling eye to, but was very quick to give the lean in by Mbia. If he had been impartial and given the foul on Bosingwa I am sure things would have panned out differently. We would have had the free kick, not Wigan and would have been in a position to set up to defend the lead as opposed to defending deep. | |
| RIP: Sniffer, Doug and Pat |
| |
| Dowd on 21:51 - Apr 8 with 602 views | QPRDave |
| Dowd on 13:40 - Apr 8 by PinnerPaul |
How many times this season does this have to be explained, the ONLY offence that has to be deliberate to be penalised is handball.
|
Wrong every foul has to be deliberate. Did you see Bale get booked at Sunderland for diving?...Afterwards replays proved he was touched and the pundits all said it wasn't a pen even though he was touched
from wiki
A foul in association football is an unfair act by a player which is deemed by the referee to contravene Law 12 of the Laws of the Game [Post edited 1 Jan 1970 1:00]
| | | |
| Dowd on 22:22 - Apr 8 with 578 views | QPRDave |
and to add....A player who INTENTIONALLY commits any of the following
Law 12 - Fouls and Misconduct
A player who intentionally commits any of the following nine offenses:
-(a) kicks or attempts to kick an opponent;
(b) trips an opponent, i.e., throwing or attempting to throw him by the use of the legs or by stooping in front of or behind him;
(c) jumps at an opponent;
(d) charges an opponent in a violent or dangerous manner;
(e) charges an opponent from behind unless the latter is obstructing;
(f) strikes or attempts to strike an opponent or spits at him;
(g) holds an opponent;
(h) pushes an opponent;
(i) handles the ball, i.e., carries, strikes or propels the ball with his hand or arm; (this does not apply to the goalkeeper within his own penalty-area);
| | | |
| |
By continuing to use the site, you agree to our use of cookies and to abide by our Terms and Conditions.
