| Why we are not good enough. 09:07 - Mar 3 with 5897 views | mushinexile |
We have lost as many games as Leicester but we have drawn four more. I have been worried all season about clubs that simply score more goals than we do. They bury teams and we let them back into games which is why we are eight points behind them now. Mathematically, any team down to 22nd could rob us of a playoff place with 33 up for grabs. Playoffs are not a certainly with our current form. We need to stop fielding players who leak goals and we need to do it now. Our playing style has been rumbled and a hard won three points against ten men isn't confidence inspiring. Promotion teams don't go two down in the first twenty minutes. |  | | |  |
| Why we are not good enough. on 09:09 - Mar 3 with 4810 views | cocklebreath |
Ffs of course we are getting at least okay offs. |  |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 09:14 - Mar 3 with 4798 views | PatfromPoole |
We must be top of the league in terms of a goals conceded : shots faced ratio.
Birmingham should have had to work a lot harder offensively to score 3 goals.
But that was so exciting yesterday; a real range of emotions.
This team are really putting us through it…. |  |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 09:36 - Mar 3 with 4755 views | A1079 |
| Why we are not good enough. on 09:14 - Mar 3 by PatfromPoole |
We must be top of the league in terms of a goals conceded : shots faced ratio.
Birmingham should have had to work a lot harder offensively to score 3 goals.
But that was so exciting yesterday; a real range of emotions.
This team are really putting us through it…. |
It was really exciting yesterday Pat and in many respects loving the championship compared to the sterile, all too predictable Premier League. Obviously yesterday ended on a high and it was manic at the end and you can't get a much better feeling that a winning goal in the dying seconds of a game. It leaves you feeling on a high for the whole weekend. But, and I hate to give an alternative view when you have just won, as much as things were good about yesterday there were many moments in the game in which Saints frustrated me and you have to say, that because of that, because of the goals conceded, because of the failure to convert possession to goals early on, etc automatic promotion will be difficult and even if we are promoted we are going to really struggle with this team and format of playing.
But, I have enjoyed the season and loving the championship and in the most part enjoying watching football again, so here is the rub.......I want us to do well and I would love to win the championship but how much do I want to go back to the PL...........that is a much harder question? | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 09:48 - Mar 3 with 4723 views | PatfromPoole |
| Why we are not good enough. on 09:36 - Mar 3 by A1079 |
It was really exciting yesterday Pat and in many respects loving the championship compared to the sterile, all too predictable Premier League. Obviously yesterday ended on a high and it was manic at the end and you can't get a much better feeling that a winning goal in the dying seconds of a game. It leaves you feeling on a high for the whole weekend. But, and I hate to give an alternative view when you have just won, as much as things were good about yesterday there were many moments in the game in which Saints frustrated me and you have to say, that because of that, because of the goals conceded, because of the failure to convert possession to goals early on, etc automatic promotion will be difficult and even if we are promoted we are going to really struggle with this team and format of playing.
But, I have enjoyed the season and loving the championship and in the most part enjoying watching football again, so here is the rub.......I want us to do well and I would love to win the championship but how much do I want to go back to the PL...........that is a much harder question? |
I think most of us feel the same way.
The Huddersfield game and yesterday’s game are two of the best games I have been to.
You don’t get games like that in the Prem. | |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 12:18 - Mar 3 with 4522 views | saint22 |
Our conversion rate is shocking
Coupled with endless goals gifted that’s a poor combo | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 12:44 - Mar 3 with 4484 views | ParanoidHemroid |
Even if we only average one point per game, Norwich would need 27 points from 11 games, bearing in mind that they currently average just over 1.5 points a game. We cant possibly miss out on the playoffs [Post edited 3 Mar 12:51]
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| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 13:32 - Mar 3 with 4408 views | 1885_SFC |
| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 12:44 - Mar 3 by ParanoidHemroid |
Even if we only average one point per game, Norwich would need 27 points from 11 games, bearing in mind that they currently average just over 1.5 points a game. We cant possibly miss out on the playoffs [Post edited 3 Mar 12:51]
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Correct. We are practically guaranteed a play-off place as it stands... and a play-off place is where we'll finish, imho. |  |
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| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 15:23 - Mar 3 with 4304 views | InTimeAddedOn |
| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 13:32 - Mar 3 by 1885_SFC |
Correct. We are practically guaranteed a play-off place as it stands... and a play-off place is where we'll finish, imho. |
Agreed on all points, none of the teams below us are good enough to max it out in the last 11 games. If Leicester carry on their slump could Ipswich take the top spot?? Most people would have said us a couple of weeks ago or more likely Leeds but even they faltered to a small degree yesterday. What odds could you have got back at the start of August for Ipswich to win it? Still plenty of twists and turns to go I suspect. |  | | |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 15:27 - Mar 3 with 4302 views | mushinexile |
Drop nine points against Ipswich, Leeds and Leicester and you might not feel so confident. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 16:03 - Mar 3 with 4265 views | cocklebreath |
| Why we are not good enough. on 15:27 - Mar 3 by mushinexile |
Drop nine points against Ipswich, Leeds and Leicester and you might not feel so confident. |
Really? we’d have to absolutely collapse to not get in play offs. | |
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| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 16:30 - Mar 3 with 4236 views | saint22 |
| Why we are not good enough. (n/t) on 15:23 - Mar 3 by InTimeAddedOn |
Agreed on all points, none of the teams below us are good enough to max it out in the last 11 games. If Leicester carry on their slump could Ipswich take the top spot?? Most people would have said us a couple of weeks ago or more likely Leeds but even they faltered to a small degree yesterday. What odds could you have got back at the start of August for Ipswich to win it? Still plenty of twists and turns to go I suspect. |
First up we need to beat Preston and Sunderland
Failure to do that an auto up is never gonna happen | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 16:34 - Mar 3 with 4231 views | mushinexile |
| Why we are not good enough. on 16:03 - Mar 3 by cocklebreath |
Really? we’d have to absolutely collapse to not get in play offs. |
How long have you supported Saints? It might be relatively unlikely but it is by no means impossible with the right sort of incompetence and some bad luck. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 17:52 - Mar 3 with 4171 views | 1885_SFC |
| Why we are not good enough. on 15:27 - Mar 3 by mushinexile |
Drop nine points against Ipswich, Leeds and Leicester and you might not feel so confident. |
We've now got 3 home games in a row - Preston, Sunderland & Middlesboro.
Hull currently hold the last play-off position in 6th - a full 14 points behind us. They still have to play Leicester, Leeds & Ipswich yet too.
You need to chill. | |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 18:27 - Mar 3 with 4133 views | cocklebreath |
| Why we are not good enough. on 16:34 - Mar 3 by mushinexile |
How long have you supported Saints? It might be relatively unlikely but it is by no means impossible with the right sort of incompetence and some bad luck. |
Over 40 years, it’s not happening | |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 18:36 - Mar 3 with 4129 views | sledger |
we are definately making the play offs thats fact.
Defence wise we are a car crash because of the way we play,we still take chances even when we have got the game won plus we have the slowest left back in the league,dead people move quicker. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 18:59 - Mar 3 with 4093 views | Centurion |
We could miss the play off places.
However, if that happens RM will also lose his job.
If we qualify for the play offs but fail to go up I think we can still say it has been a successful season and RM should be given a chance to develop the squad further.
Again, if we qualify for the play offs it will be another success even if we do not make it to the play offs.
I suppose we have to see things as 3 to 5 year plan. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 19:38 - Mar 3 with 4053 views | Manhattan_Lynx |
| Why we are not good enough. on 18:59 - Mar 3 by Centurion |
We could miss the play off places.
However, if that happens RM will also lose his job.
If we qualify for the play offs but fail to go up I think we can still say it has been a successful season and RM should be given a chance to develop the squad further.
Again, if we qualify for the play offs it will be another success even if we do not make it to the play offs.
I suppose we have to see things as 3 to 5 year plan. |
I will be impressed if we qualify for the playoffs even if we do not make it to the playoffs. |  | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 20:05 - Mar 3 with 4004 views | pjt50 |
| Why we are not good enough. on 18:36 - Mar 3 by sledger |
we are definately making the play offs thats fact.
Defence wise we are a car crash because of the way we play,we still take chances even when we have got the game won plus we have the slowest left back in the league,dead people move quicker. |
Can't be bothered to work it out again but, before Friday's match, if all teams continued their form over the previous 5 games until the end of the season we'd finish joint 6th on points with Norwich. Currently we've got a much better goal difference. | |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 21:02 - Mar 3 with 3952 views | SouthSeaSaint |
Question is would it be preferrable to get promotion and receive a drubbing most games, unless the owners invest loads of money and the scouting improves significantly OR stay in the Championship and enjoy winning more games than we lose (unless we end up like Stoke or other ex Prem sides flirting with relegation?) | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 07:13 - Mar 4 with 3797 views | mushinexile |
I take the point that the football has been much more enjoyable since losing heavily early in the season and I accept that we would consider fifteenth in the PL as a big achievement but our proper place is there because as a fan, you want your club to be at the very top. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 07:41 - Mar 4 with 3772 views | Berber |
| Why we are not good enough. on 07:13 - Mar 4 by mushinexile |
I take the point that the football has been much more enjoyable since losing heavily early in the season and I accept that we would consider fifteenth in the PL as a big achievement but our proper place is there because as a fan, you want your club to be at the very top. |
I am with this. Accepting that being second rate (Championship) is where you want to be may seem to be OK, until you become average second rate, then below average second rate. Then League 1. Playing attractive football against lesser teams might thrill some, but for me is much the same as WWW, a spectacular farce. Striving to be amongst the best is what makes the difference. |  |
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| Why we are not good enough. on 13:18 - Mar 4 with 3641 views | Ripleys_revenge |
I want to be in a premier league without the top 6 | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 14:45 - Mar 4 with 3584 views | InTimeAddedOn |
| Why we are not good enough. on 13:18 - Mar 4 by Ripleys_revenge |
I want to be in a premier league without the top 6 |
Agree 100%, it’s about time the mega rich funded clubs from the top of the PL all trotted off to their super-dooper world league and gorged themselves on the piles of cash till they burst. Then we can have our League and Cups back and start daring to dream of maybe winning something again 🙂⚽️🙂 | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 20:52 - Mar 4 with 3525 views | felly1 |
| Why we are not good enough. on 14:45 - Mar 4 by InTimeAddedOn |
Agree 100%, it’s about time the mega rich funded clubs from the top of the PL all trotted off to their super-dooper world league and gorged themselves on the piles of cash till they burst. Then we can have our League and Cups back and start daring to dream of maybe winning something again 🙂⚽️🙂 |
Yep, bin off the big /6/7 to their diamond league of trillionaires and lets have a Prem 1 and Prem 2.
40 clubs split into two leagues of 20.
The TV cash shared out alot more evenly and hey presto we have our game back. | | | |
| Why we are not good enough. on 10:41 - Mar 5 with 3432 views | SaintNick |
| Why we are not good enough. on 20:52 - Mar 4 by felly1 |
Yep, bin off the big /6/7 to their diamond league of trillionaires and lets have a Prem 1 and Prem 2.
40 clubs split into two leagues of 20.
The TV cash shared out alot more evenly and hey presto we have our game back. |
I think that the Big 7 leaving for a European Super league whilst not playing in the Premier League is the only way forward if football in this country is to flourish |  |
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