| Joe Rodon 10:17 - Jan 5 with 4906 views | jack_lord |
Spurs scalped us of our prized asset complaining about the 11 million fee. He has been there 12 months and they played him about 12 times and are willing to sell him for 20 million. They have done nothing for him and we are told that the fees have gone down because of covid. That makes me sick. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 10:31 - Jan 5 with 4113 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
There is a big difference between asking price and selling price. Swansea did well to get £11m for him and Spurs will not get £20m. He has not performed well enough.
Lowe was probably the worst deal. A regular goal scorer under contract but Swansea got Obafemi for a similar price. Roberts was low also and I ould take him over Rodon but he was out of contract. The market is the market.
Rudiger is worth £60m and will walk for free. No point feeling sick. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 11:24 - Jan 5 with 3991 views | onehunglow |
Yep,another example of why we sunk so fast.
It is sick |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 11:46 - Jan 5 with 3967 views | Badlands |
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| Joe Rodon on 11:52 - Jan 5 with 3959 views | Badlands |
,£11 million was a good price for a decent but injury prone CB. While some say Spurs have not developed him it is quite possible the he has failed to develop.
£20 million asking price from a PL club suggests Spurs see him having a future in the league but not at the top and not at the standard they are looking for. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 12:01 - Jan 5 with 3943 views | Catullus |
We all know a players value rises when he goes to the EPL and if he joins a big club it rises further again. Look at Dan James, arguably a failure at Man Utd but still sold on for more than they paid us for him.
Some people have unrealistic expectations and outlooks. If an EPL club gave us 3 million for Grimes they'd be asking 5-6 million for him in a months time.
By the same token if an EPL club pays 11 million for a player and that club gets relegated that players value usually drops too. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 12:47 - Jan 5 with 3877 views | jack_lord |
| Joe Rodon on 12:01 - Jan 5 by Catullus |
We all know a players value rises when he goes to the EPL and if he joins a big club it rises further again. Look at Dan James, arguably a failure at Man Utd but still sold on for more than they paid us for him.
Some people have unrealistic expectations and outlooks. If an EPL club gave us 3 million for Grimes they'd be asking 5-6 million for him in a months time.
By the same token if an EPL club pays 11 million for a player and that club gets relegated that players value usually drops too. |
Yep, it makes me sick looking at where we were and what we are facing. I suppose we wouldn't have been able to sell siggurdson for what we did if we were in thee Championship and would not have got the money for Ayew and Bony if we weren't in the Premier.
Why we bought them back is another story. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 12:53 - Jan 5 with 3861 views | Chief |
We sold him too low, simple as that.
Can anyone really say he's markedly improved since he left us? No because they barely play him, but are still going to make a big profit on him. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 13:51 - Jan 5 with 3772 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 12:53 - Jan 5 by Chief |
We sold him too low, simple as that.
Can anyone really say he's markedly improved since he left us? No because they barely play him, but are still going to make a big profit on him. |
dead Right but we have been conditioned to accept we are now scraping the bottom of the barrel and be grateful for what we can get.Its criminal .
Our clown for Chairman is like a Brit on holiday in Morroco souk and being offered an item and being unable to barter .
Had I been in charge and Levy rings me,it goes like this;
Hello Dan
What's that,you want Joe Rodon
He's not for sale?
Ok then how much would you consider selling him for.
Well,he's a full international,fit ,hungry ,a leader and ambitious so for us to lose him is huge o you're talking 25/30 million.
You're nuts,I am not paying anything like that. We'll offer 5million.
I put the phone down.
Then Dan rings back a few days later and says;
Ok Jules,what is your best price for Joe
Start talking at 25m otherwise off ya go and try someone else at that age with what he has. You are owned by one of the world's richest men remember that .
Last offer is 20m ,take it or leave it.
Then ....tell Daniel you will think about it.
30 mins later,ring Levy and accept 20m plus 15% add on
Done | |
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| Joe Rodon on 14:46 - Jan 5 with 3734 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Rodon on 13:51 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
dead Right but we have been conditioned to accept we are now scraping the bottom of the barrel and be grateful for what we can get.Its criminal .
Our clown for Chairman is like a Brit on holiday in Morroco souk and being offered an item and being unable to barter .
Had I been in charge and Levy rings me,it goes like this;
Hello Dan
What's that,you want Joe Rodon
He's not for sale?
Ok then how much would you consider selling him for.
Well,he's a full international,fit ,hungry ,a leader and ambitious so for us to lose him is huge o you're talking 25/30 million.
You're nuts,I am not paying anything like that. We'll offer 5million.
I put the phone down.
Then Dan rings back a few days later and says;
Ok Jules,what is your best price for Joe
Start talking at 25m otherwise off ya go and try someone else at that age with what he has. You are owned by one of the world's richest men remember that .
Last offer is 20m ,take it or leave it.
Then ....tell Daniel you will think about it.
30 mins later,ring Levy and accept 20m plus 15% add on
Done |
He was sold for the market rate in Covid for a Championship International player. £15m with £11m plus another £4m if he was any good. He has not proven good enough for Spurs under a number of managers. Its a tough business.
Spurs do not want to pay the extra £4m because they do not consider him worth it. So why should anyone else think he is worth it? The will get a loan with a view to buy and he will have to prove to someone he is worth 5 the £9m extra Swansea sold him for.
There is no way Swansea would buy him back for £11m. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 15:03 - Jan 5 with 3714 views | jack_lord |
| Joe Rodon on 14:46 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He was sold for the market rate in Covid for a Championship International player. £15m with £11m plus another £4m if he was any good. He has not proven good enough for Spurs under a number of managers. Its a tough business.
Spurs do not want to pay the extra £4m because they do not consider him worth it. So why should anyone else think he is worth it? The will get a loan with a view to buy and he will have to prove to someone he is worth 5 the £9m extra Swansea sold him for.
There is no way Swansea would buy him back for £11m. |
If they sell him for more than 15 million then surely those add ons should come Swansea's way as they don't think he is worth they extra 4m ? | |
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| Joe Rodon on 15:30 - Jan 5 with 3689 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Rodon on 15:03 - Jan 5 by jack_lord |
If they sell him for more than 15 million then surely those add ons should come Swansea's way as they don't think he is worth they extra 4m ? |
Subject to terms and conditions. Swansea usually do this just in case. It could be 5% or 10% so only £400k or so at a guess. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 15:38 - Jan 5 with 3679 views | jack_lord |
| Joe Rodon on 15:30 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Subject to terms and conditions. Swansea usually do this just in case. It could be 5% or 10% so only £400k or so at a guess. |
Its better than a kick in the ass but the add ons were far great and they may well profit far more without paying the add ons. Oh to be a top premier team. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 17:09 - Jan 5 with 3621 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 14:46 - Jan 5 by ReslovenSwan1 |
He was sold for the market rate in Covid for a Championship International player. £15m with £11m plus another £4m if he was any good. He has not proven good enough for Spurs under a number of managers. Its a tough business.
Spurs do not want to pay the extra £4m because they do not consider him worth it. So why should anyone else think he is worth it? The will get a loan with a view to buy and he will have to prove to someone he is worth 5 the £9m extra Swansea sold him for.
There is no way Swansea would buy him back for £11m. |
The fee was and is insultingly low | |
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| Joe Rodon on 17:15 - Jan 5 with 3626 views | raynor94 |
| Joe Rodon on 17:09 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
The fee was and is insultingly low |
Not in my opinion at all, we did well to get £11 million up front, he hasn't impressed 2 managers, and now they are looking to offload.
He's a tidy Championship centre back but not top half Premiership
What a difference to Ben Davies |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 17:43 - Jan 5 with 3580 views | onehunglow |
| Joe Rodon on 17:15 - Jan 5 by raynor94 |
Not in my opinion at all, we did well to get £11 million up front, he hasn't impressed 2 managers, and now they are looking to offload.
He's a tidy Championship centre back but not top half Premiership
What a difference to Ben Davies |
Fair comment Ray.
Well put and I’ve no problems with your view.
I think Joe is well under valued
Without him,Wales are lacking for a start. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 22:15 - Jan 5 with 3464 views | jasper_T |
How he doesn't get games over the clowns they've got there I just don't know. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 22:18 - Jan 5 with 3457 views | Chief |
| Joe Rodon on 17:15 - Jan 5 by raynor94 |
Not in my opinion at all, we did well to get £11 million up front, he hasn't impressed 2 managers, and now they are looking to offload.
He's a tidy Championship centre back but not top half Premiership
What a difference to Ben Davies |
We didn't get 11mill up front, nowhere near it.
The club has recently taken out a loan with an Australian bank for an advance on future installments from spurs which means the amount of fee the club actually receives will be smaller again.
Terrible deal all round. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 22:30 - Jan 5 with 3437 views | Flynnidine_Zidownes |
| Joe Rodon on 22:15 - Jan 5 by jasper_T |
How he doesn't get games over the clowns they've got there I just don't know. |
It must be maddening for him. He has to be better than those idiots. | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 22:42 - Jan 5 with 3423 views | builthjack |
| Joe Rodon on 22:18 - Jan 5 by Chief |
We didn't get 11mill up front, nowhere near it.
The club has recently taken out a loan with an Australian bank for an advance on future installments from spurs which means the amount of fee the club actually receives will be smaller again.
Terrible deal all round. |
We have sold anyone who has brought a few bob in. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 23:15 - Jan 5 with 3397 views | Kilkennyjack |
Joe will have improved training and playing with such quality every day.
Joe looks very comfortable for Wales.
Remember he has had injuries so he lacks game time for his age.
He needs to get playing and then his talent will do the rest.
Jose is not a bad judge and he had faith in Joe.
Ryan Mason was not qualified to do the Spurs job and just opicked his mates.
Nuno was under pressure from the off and had no real chance to give Joe a go.
I think Conte is a real problem for Joe though…. :-(
Joe has to play now, and looks like Newcastle are interested.
The only thing that might make £20m an issue is his long injury record.
On ability and age he is worth that £20m.
Slabhead at Man Utd cost £80m mun. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 00:38 - Jan 6 with 3353 views | howenjack |
Everytime I see Dier and Sanchez play I think Joes value goes up accordingly . | | | |
| Joe Rodon on 14:15 - Jan 6 with 3222 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Rodon on 00:38 - Jan 6 by howenjack |
Everytime I see Dier and Sanchez play I think Joes value goes up accordingly . |
Japhet Tanganga was the problem the other night. A sloppy short back pass 0-1 and heading the ball into his own defender across goal. 0-2. | |
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| Joe Rodon on 14:47 - Jan 6 with 3205 views | Catullus |
| Joe Rodon on 13:51 - Jan 5 by onehunglow |
dead Right but we have been conditioned to accept we are now scraping the bottom of the barrel and be grateful for what we can get.Its criminal .
Our clown for Chairman is like a Brit on holiday in Morroco souk and being offered an item and being unable to barter .
Had I been in charge and Levy rings me,it goes like this;
Hello Dan
What's that,you want Joe Rodon
He's not for sale?
Ok then how much would you consider selling him for.
Well,he's a full international,fit ,hungry ,a leader and ambitious so for us to lose him is huge o you're talking 25/30 million.
You're nuts,I am not paying anything like that. We'll offer 5million.
I put the phone down.
Then Dan rings back a few days later and says;
Ok Jules,what is your best price for Joe
Start talking at 25m otherwise off ya go and try someone else at that age with what he has. You are owned by one of the world's richest men remember that .
Last offer is 20m ,take it or leave it.
Then ....tell Daniel you will think about it.
30 mins later,ring Levy and accept 20m plus 15% add on
Done |
Yeah if only it was that easy. Levy is far more likely to not take your calls. Deals are not done that way, you can set a price and stick to it but you cannot make other clubs pay it. Then you have to take the player into account. If he wants the move you are better off taking what is on the table or you have an unhappy player who may just see his contract out and leave for nothing.
These days even the computer games don't make transfers as easy as you make it out!
PS, he's not for sale....ok how much will you sell him for.....25/30.....can you see the problem? | |
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| Joe Rodon on 18:17 - Jan 6 with 3138 views | NotLoyal |
| Joe Rodon on 14:47 - Jan 6 by Catullus |
Yeah if only it was that easy. Levy is far more likely to not take your calls. Deals are not done that way, you can set a price and stick to it but you cannot make other clubs pay it. Then you have to take the player into account. If he wants the move you are better off taking what is on the table or you have an unhappy player who may just see his contract out and leave for nothing.
These days even the computer games don't make transfers as easy as you make it out!
PS, he's not for sale....ok how much will you sell him for.....25/30.....can you see the problem? |
From what I’ve learned in the past few years a transfer is the hardest thing in football to do. |  |
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| Joe Rodon on 18:32 - Jan 6 with 3130 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Joe Rodon on 18:17 - Jan 6 by NotLoyal |
From what I’ve learned in the past few years a transfer is the hardest thing in football to do. |
In the premier league Swansea were good at making big sales and not so good at big purchases in excess of £10m. | |
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