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Fans' Forum 12:58 - Jul 28 with 16852 viewsisitme

Are the trust going to take questions from supporters who cannot attend,ensure that these questions get asked and then post the responses somewhere?
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Fans' Forum on 09:53 - Jul 30 with 2988 viewskiwidale

Fans' Forum on 09:45 - Jul 30 by SuddenLad

It's about awareness, not forgiveness. Be alert, your club needs lerts.


You might be right and Im completeley wrong but do you really believe that anybody on the board is out to line their pockets another Stewart Day?

This is not the time for bickering.

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Fans' Forum on 09:55 - Jul 30 with 2967 viewsfitzochris

Fans' Forum on 09:53 - Jul 30 by kiwidale

You might be right and Im completeley wrong but do you really believe that anybody on the board is out to line their pockets another Stewart Day?


No, and saying so is slanderous.

However, questioning the competence of decisons and the honesty of answers to questions is the least we all should be doing.

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Fans' Forum on 09:57 - Jul 30 with 2954 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 09:53 - Jul 30 by kiwidale

You might be right and Im completeley wrong but do you really believe that anybody on the board is out to line their pockets another Stewart Day?


I don't think that at all. Not at all.

But it is interesting to note that a senior paid appointment was made via a non-competitive process, so it would appear. That has not been disputed by the board when the Trust raised the question, it would also appear.

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Fans' Forum on 10:07 - Jul 30 with 2881 viewskiwidale

Fans' Forum on 09:52 - Jul 30 by rochdale_ranger

What happened at the stag do lads. Seriously though at first I thought The slating the new board and CEO got was over the top and irrelevant especially as it concerned stuff relating to personal matters etc. After the Hill sacking and not having a replacement and the fiasco of saying we were interviewing candidates from across Europe to then go with our youth team manager on an interim basis only to then make him permanent manager (all this being announced before BBM’s first game) convinced me Bottomley is winging it. A game being cancelled in August due to issues with a pitch is a joke.


I think a lot of the criticism was due to the fact that Dunphy who was loved by all was ousted and shown the door add to that we have a chairman who is an invisible man, leaving Bottomley to carry all and any criticism. If anything goes wrong its his fault and if it doesn't its still his still his fault. Compared to whats happened down the road at Bury all our directors deserve our thanks but as Sudden lad said the Trust and all of us should be diligent and keep them honest.

This is not the time for bickering.

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Fans' Forum on 10:14 - Jul 30 with 2832 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 09:52 - Jul 30 by rochdale_ranger

What happened at the stag do lads. Seriously though at first I thought The slating the new board and CEO got was over the top and irrelevant especially as it concerned stuff relating to personal matters etc. After the Hill sacking and not having a replacement and the fiasco of saying we were interviewing candidates from across Europe to then go with our youth team manager on an interim basis only to then make him permanent manager (all this being announced before BBM’s first game) convinced me Bottomley is winging it. A game being cancelled in August due to issues with a pitch is a joke.


To be fair we haven't had a home game cancelled in August.









Yet.

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Fans' Forum on 10:47 - Jul 30 with 2733 viewsD_Alien

I don't see 'disruption' as a negative

The only people who should be concerned about disruption either have something to hide or are so afraid of criticism that they shouldn't be anywhere near a position of responsibility

Disruption can also be creative, for instance where whole industries are disrupted by new technologies which ultimately tend to lead to huge improvements in people's lives, although it may be uncomfortable for those who depended on the status quo

But keeping things local, if disruption is being experienced then it might be pertinent for those feeling it to ask themselves why

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Fans' Forum on 10:56 - Jul 30 with 2683 viewsSuddenLad

Fans' Forum on 09:52 - Jul 30 by rochdale_ranger

What happened at the stag do lads. Seriously though at first I thought The slating the new board and CEO got was over the top and irrelevant especially as it concerned stuff relating to personal matters etc. After the Hill sacking and not having a replacement and the fiasco of saying we were interviewing candidates from across Europe to then go with our youth team manager on an interim basis only to then make him permanent manager (all this being announced before BBM’s first game) convinced me Bottomley is winging it. A game being cancelled in August due to issues with a pitch is a joke.


Yep, you're catching on. Stag do apart, it's imperative that the good name and future of our club is the priority. I don't believe for one milli-second that anyone on this message board is 'trying to disrupt' the club (or whatever the specific quote was). That's a ridiculous statement.

Let there be no mistake. The fans are the lifeblood and future of this club. If (for example) we allow a Bury situation to develop, unchallenged, we would forever regret it.

Now, more than ever, we need to question what goes on.

“It is easier to fool people, than to convince them that they have been fooled”

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Fans' Forum on 11:00 - Jul 30 with 2651 viewsScunnydale

Fans' Forum on 10:56 - Jul 30 by SuddenLad

Yep, you're catching on. Stag do apart, it's imperative that the good name and future of our club is the priority. I don't believe for one milli-second that anyone on this message board is 'trying to disrupt' the club (or whatever the specific quote was). That's a ridiculous statement.

Let there be no mistake. The fans are the lifeblood and future of this club. If (for example) we allow a Bury situation to develop, unchallenged, we would forever regret it.

Now, more than ever, we need to question what goes on.


Absolutely. Look around us: Bolton and Bury are deep in the mire, and Oldham have certainly flirted with it recently. Then there's Accy. I don't know too much about them, but they seem like a tight-knit club with fans, players and staff connected. We have been more like Stanley than the other three in the past. Let's hope and ensure it continues to be that way.
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Fans' Forum on 11:02 - Jul 30 with 2631 viewsjudd

To disrupt: "drastically alter or destroy the structure of.."

Hmmm.

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Fans' Forum on 11:22 - Jul 30 with 2554 viewsTVOS1907

Fans' Forum on 11:02 - Jul 30 by judd

To disrupt: "drastically alter or destroy the structure of.."

Hmmm.


Saturday's game was disrupted...

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Fans' Forum on 11:26 - Jul 30 with 2535 viewsDaleiLama

Fans' Forum on 11:02 - Jul 30 by judd

To disrupt: "drastically alter or destroy the structure of.."

Hmmm.


Would our pre-season schedule come under the heading of disrupted then? Asking for a friend.

I also wondered about how the balance sheet would look when comparing profits from hiring out Spotland for matches which could have been played on a park, versus losses from fixtures not taking place either already or in the future. I didn't send a question in for the forum though as it seems disruption is not welcome?

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Fans' Forum on 11:31 - Jul 30 with 2507 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 11:26 - Jul 30 by DaleiLama

Would our pre-season schedule come under the heading of disrupted then? Asking for a friend.

I also wondered about how the balance sheet would look when comparing profits from hiring out Spotland for matches which could have been played on a park, versus losses from fixtures not taking place either already or in the future. I didn't send a question in for the forum though as it seems disruption is not welcome?


As I understand it, because the pitch was being ripped up at the end of last season, the decision to hire the pitch out was quite lucrative - I have heard c. £10k was generated.

How many squeegees would that help fund?

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Fans' Forum on 11:34 - Jul 30 with 2495 viewsDaleiLama

Fans' Forum on 11:31 - Jul 30 by judd

As I understand it, because the pitch was being ripped up at the end of last season, the decision to hire the pitch out was quite lucrative - I have heard c. £10k was generated.

How many squeegees would that help fund?


........... or how many £3.50 pies did we not sell?

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Fans' Forum on 11:41 - Jul 30 with 2457 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 11:34 - Jul 30 by DaleiLama

........... or how many £3.50 pies did we not sell?


I wouldn't want to risk any potential disruption of the bowel during a game so eat at home or the pub beforehand.

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Fans' Forum on 11:50 - Jul 30 with 2427 viewsD_Alien

Fans' Forum on 11:22 - Jul 30 by TVOS1907

Saturday's game was disrupted...


As was the Pearl St stand for the Sunderland game - entirely unnecessarily, as it turned out

Hmm... we should draw a distinction between positive and negative disruption; as with most human activities, it can be both

One thing is clear - long-standing Dale fans would most certainly not be looking to negatively disrupt our beloved club

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Fans' Forum on 11:58 - Jul 30 with 2391 viewsrochdale_ranger

Fans' Forum on 11:50 - Jul 30 by D_Alien

As was the Pearl St stand for the Sunderland game - entirely unnecessarily, as it turned out

Hmm... we should draw a distinction between positive and negative disruption; as with most human activities, it can be both

One thing is clear - long-standing Dale fans would most certainly not be looking to negatively disrupt our beloved club


It’s a royal shame Sunderland are still a league one club. We get the embarrassment of releasing a commemorative mug and I’ll get the pleasure of sitting next to the people of Rochdale that don’t usually get to Spotland filming the amazing spectacle of three and a half thousand Mackems on their mobile phones. Oh and tannoy man will play status quo’s rocking all over the world for their benefit. Tinpot.
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Fans' Forum on 11:58 - Jul 30 with 2390 viewsdawlishdale

Fans' Forum on 11:50 - Jul 30 by D_Alien

As was the Pearl St stand for the Sunderland game - entirely unnecessarily, as it turned out

Hmm... we should draw a distinction between positive and negative disruption; as with most human activities, it can be both

One thing is clear - long-standing Dale fans would most certainly not be looking to negatively disrupt our beloved club


Would the end of season Awards night fiasco come under disruption?
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Fans' Forum on 12:00 - Jul 30 with 2374 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 11:58 - Jul 30 by dawlishdale

Would the end of season Awards night fiasco come under disruption?


... or the board room changes?

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Fans' Forum on 12:38 - Jul 30 with 2237 views442Dale

Fans' Forum on 11:00 - Jul 30 by Scunnydale

Absolutely. Look around us: Bolton and Bury are deep in the mire, and Oldham have certainly flirted with it recently. Then there's Accy. I don't know too much about them, but they seem like a tight-knit club with fans, players and staff connected. We have been more like Stanley than the other three in the past. Let's hope and ensure it continues to be that way.


Anyone who follows Andy Holt on Twitter will attest to how his completely open approach around how Stanley are run has impacted positively on his and the club’s reputation.

There is no argument whatsoever that it isn’t the way forward for smaller clubs within the modern game.

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Fans' Forum on 12:38 - Jul 30 with 2237 viewsVivaDonaldo

On the pitch comments vs the hiring out.

I would imagine that in the close season pitch specialists and their time are at a premium. Much like booking a holiday in the school holidays.

I would have thought that maybe it was out of budget to book them in sooner and their more lucrative clients would have booked them then?

Just a thought?

From the sounds of the reports the top layer that has been put down this summer isn't allowing water to the drains, which are supposedly fine.

Could be a path of recovery back on the pitch company if they've been negligent.
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Fans' Forum on 12:49 - Jul 30 with 2183 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 12:38 - Jul 30 by VivaDonaldo

On the pitch comments vs the hiring out.

I would imagine that in the close season pitch specialists and their time are at a premium. Much like booking a holiday in the school holidays.

I would have thought that maybe it was out of budget to book them in sooner and their more lucrative clients would have booked them then?

Just a thought?

From the sounds of the reports the top layer that has been put down this summer isn't allowing water to the drains, which are supposedly fine.

Could be a path of recovery back on the pitch company if they've been negligent.


From previously reported meetings with the Trust, actual dates were given for when pitch replacement work would commence, initially with Premier Pitches and then with the latest contractors.

Rochdale Hornets had agreed a long time ago to an extended run of away games in order to accommodate the pitch replacement, as I am sure they would have to have rugby league agreement at the time of the fixtures being compiled pre their season, which would suggest a timetable had been agreed with the (a) contractor.

Like any seasonally impacted business, I would expect the availability of staff, materials and equipment to be factored into planning and pricing.

With regards water getting to the drains, isn't it only part of the pitch where this issue occurred and not the whole of the pitch?

In the knowledge that the old pitch was going to be ripped up, then the revenue generation idea was a very good one, in my opinion, so credit where credit's due on that one.
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Fans' Forum on 13:03 - Jul 30 with 2147 viewsVivaDonaldo

Fans' Forum on 12:49 - Jul 30 by judd

From previously reported meetings with the Trust, actual dates were given for when pitch replacement work would commence, initially with Premier Pitches and then with the latest contractors.

Rochdale Hornets had agreed a long time ago to an extended run of away games in order to accommodate the pitch replacement, as I am sure they would have to have rugby league agreement at the time of the fixtures being compiled pre their season, which would suggest a timetable had been agreed with the (a) contractor.

Like any seasonally impacted business, I would expect the availability of staff, materials and equipment to be factored into planning and pricing.

With regards water getting to the drains, isn't it only part of the pitch where this issue occurred and not the whole of the pitch?

In the knowledge that the old pitch was going to be ripped up, then the revenue generation idea was a very good one, in my opinion, so credit where credit's due on that one.
[Post edited 30 Jul 2019 12:53]


Not a clue on any of the detail on the pitch. Just going off the notes reported on here from the forum.
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Fans' Forum on 13:26 - Jul 30 with 2056 viewsTVOS1907

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2019/07/fans-forum-review-3/

Great red box on the right of the page...

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Fans' Forum on 13:36 - Jul 30 with 2030 viewsjudd

Fans' Forum on 13:26 - Jul 30 by TVOS1907

https://www.daletrust.co.uk/2019/07/fans-forum-review-3/

Great red box on the right of the page...


Thanks for the link.

So, Premier Pitches fired us off after apparently agreeing to do the work, and they allegedly had mis-laid the previous pitch anyway?

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Fans' Forum on 13:53 - Jul 30 with 1991 viewsMoonyDale

Fans' Forum on 08:25 - Jul 30 by fitzochris

I'm hearing there is a suggestion that a "band" of people on here are intent on disrupting the club.

I'd like someone to say that to my face. The people I believe are being lumped into this "band" have supported this club for a great many years longer than some of the people currently involved at Rochdale AFC - and they completely have the club's best interests at heart.

I'll rue the day we sit back en masse and let a Bury situation, or even an "Overcoat Men" situation develop here.

Challenge is good and always will be. it's especially important we challenge in the absence of a strong local media presence.

While we may grumble at issues around the club at the minute, not one of us will be anything less than 100% behind BBM and the team he puts out against Tranmere on Saturday.


If that is indeed the case Fitz, and I have no reason to doubt you I also would love the person concerned to have the balls to say it to my face....If they read this board which I'm sure they do I would urge them to message me so I can send my name and address by return and give them the opportunity to do so......See how they like a disrupted face....

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