| Vote tactically on Thursday 11:45 - May 20 with 17376 views | WarwickHunt |
Stop this Tory Brexshit fûcking lunacy.
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:34 - May 20 with 1723 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:20 - May 20 by WarwickHunt |
Democracy is anti-democratic, mun.
Do keep up! |
Democracy does not entail having another vote before the first has been implemented..
.. and why should anyone take your opinion on democracy seriously ?
You were making light of children being bombarded with bricks by religious fanatics at a political rally  |  | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:43 - May 20 with 1704 views | Batterseajack |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:34 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Democracy does not entail having another vote before the first has been implemented..
.. and why should anyone take your opinion on democracy seriously ?
You were making light of children being bombarded with bricks by religious fanatics at a political rally |
No one can agree how the first can be implemented.
For simpletons like yourself, Brexit is simply in or our.
But fire up just a couple of brain neurons and you'll see it can take many forms and many compilations. Before the vote, Nigel was hailing the Norway arrangement as a ideal destination, but now its anything other than no deal in a betrayal to brexit. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:48 - May 20 with 1699 views | LeonWasGod |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:07 - May 20 by Highjack |
I would never vote for Cliff. |
He is getting on a bit. Better to vote for the Young Ones. |  | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:56 - May 20 with 1689 views | sherpajacob |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:30 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Do we rewrite law every time we have a new government then?
and the government and the opposition voted to invoke A50 |
It was the previous government, not the current one, that invoked A50.
The current government asked for 2 extensions to A50. |  |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:01 - May 20 with 1678 views | Highjack |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:48 - May 20 by LeonWasGod |
He is getting on a bit. Better to vote for the Young Ones. |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:45 - May 20 with 1641 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:43 - May 20 by Batterseajack |
No one can agree how the first can be implemented.
For simpletons like yourself, Brexit is simply in or our.
But fire up just a couple of brain neurons and you'll see it can take many forms and many compilations. Before the vote, Nigel was hailing the Norway arrangement as a ideal destination, but now its anything other than no deal in a betrayal to brexit. |
Read that back and you seriously have the nerve to call others ‘simpletons’..
We had a general election in which Labour and the Conservatives both agreed in their respective manifestos that leaving the EU entailed ending FOM and leaving the SM/CU.. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:48 - May 20 with 1637 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:56 - May 20 by sherpajacob |
It was the previous government, not the current one, that invoked A50.
The current government asked for 2 extensions to A50. |
I take it you didn’t bother reading the Labour and Conservatives party manifestos in 2017.. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:53 - May 20 with 1628 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:45 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Read that back and you seriously have the nerve to call others ‘simpletons’..
We had a general election in which Labour and the Conservatives both agreed in their respective manifestos that leaving the EU entailed ending FOM and leaving the SM/CU.. |
Actually the Labour manifesto said this:
“scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union”
It also, quite categorically, rejected a no deal Brexit as an option.
No deal has become a thing as Farage and the assorted right wing loons in the Tory party have made it all about ‘betrayal’ of a vote. Farage only operates on ‘betrayal’. It’s his entire point. Chaos. Funded by people who are desperate for the UK and EU to be in chaos. As that’s how they make money and grab power.
There are only two reasons why a rich* man pays for another man to have a nice house in Chelsea and nice clothes. Farage is nowhere near pretty enough for one of those reasons.
*apart from he’s not, of course. Can’t point to any legitimate source of his funds. But the people who use him to funnel money are. | | | |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:57 - May 20 with 1622 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:53 - May 20 by londonlisa2001 |
Actually the Labour manifesto said this:
“scrap the Conservatives’ Brexit White Paper and replace it with fresh negotiating priorities that have a strong emphasis on retaining the benefits of the Single Market and the Customs Union”
It also, quite categorically, rejected a no deal Brexit as an option.
No deal has become a thing as Farage and the assorted right wing loons in the Tory party have made it all about ‘betrayal’ of a vote. Farage only operates on ‘betrayal’. It’s his entire point. Chaos. Funded by people who are desperate for the UK and EU to be in chaos. As that’s how they make money and grab power.
There are only two reasons why a rich* man pays for another man to have a nice house in Chelsea and nice clothes. Farage is nowhere near pretty enough for one of those reasons.
*apart from he’s not, of course. Can’t point to any legitimate source of his funds. But the people who use him to funnel money are. |
“Retaining benefits..”
That’s a strange way of interpreting remaining in the SM and CU, and I can easily find quotes form John Mcdonell that refute what you’re trying to say.
.. and a ‘deal’ could equally mean a FTA, rather than Remaining in every EU institution without representation. [Post edited 20 May 2019 15:00]
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:18 - May 20 with 1604 views | londonlisa2001 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 14:57 - May 20 by sg1912 |
“Retaining benefits..”
That’s a strange way of interpreting remaining in the SM and CU, and I can easily find quotes form John Mcdonell that refute what you’re trying to say.
.. and a ‘deal’ could equally mean a FTA, rather than Remaining in every EU institution without representation. [Post edited 20 May 2019 15:00]
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I’m not trying to say anything, I’m quoting the bloody manifesto. But there is no way of retaining benefits without retaining the relationship that gives those benefits.
I can easily find quotes from Farage, Johnson, Rees Mogg, insert name of any other Brexit loving politician, that refutes everything you’re saying as well.
Perhaps given they all lied, we should have another vote?
After all, we cannot get a FTA without the withdrawal agreement anyway (want some quotes?) and that’s ‘worse’ than what we have (want some quotes?) | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:26 - May 20 with 1595 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:18 - May 20 by londonlisa2001 |
I’m not trying to say anything, I’m quoting the bloody manifesto. But there is no way of retaining benefits without retaining the relationship that gives those benefits.
I can easily find quotes from Farage, Johnson, Rees Mogg, insert name of any other Brexit loving politician, that refutes everything you’re saying as well.
Perhaps given they all lied, we should have another vote?
After all, we cannot get a FTA without the withdrawal agreement anyway (want some quotes?) and that’s ‘worse’ than what we have (want some quotes?) |
A FTA can ‘retain benefits’ without political union..
Go and get some quotes that refute ‘what I’m saying ‘, it’s blatantly obvious that you’re moving the goalposts to justify your petulant argument. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:28 - May 20 with 1596 views | trinityann |
What are the benefits of staying in the EU Lisa for the ordinary fork in West Wales. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:44 - May 20 with 1584 views | LeonWasGod |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:28 - May 20 by trinityann |
What are the benefits of staying in the EU Lisa for the ordinary fork in West Wales. |
I bet she'll come up with a four pronged answer to that | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:46 - May 20 with 1582 views | bluey_the_blue |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:44 - May 20 by LeonWasGod |
I bet she'll come up with a four pronged answer to that |
She is as sharp as a knife. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:48 - May 20 with 1580 views | Batterseajack |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:28 - May 20 by trinityann |
What are the benefits of staying in the EU Lisa for the ordinary fork in West Wales. |
- Membership of the world’s largest trading bloc with over 500 million consumers, representing 23% of global GDP
- As a member of the EU the UK maintains a say in the shaping of the rules governing its trade with its European partners (these rules affect us whether we're in or out of the EU)
- Structural funding for areas of the UK hit by industrial decline
- Support for rural areas under the European Agricultural Fund for Regional Development
- The UK has greater global influence as a member of the EU
- The EU provides a counterweight to the global power of the US, Russia and China
- Tariff-free trade within the EU
- The abolition of non-tariff barriers (quotas, subsidies, administrative rules etc.) among members
- Participation in 40+ trade agreements (better than WTO) with more than 70 countries
- The EU accounts for 44% of all UK exports of goods and services (Think of sheep farmers)
- The EU accounts for 53% of all UK imports of goods and services
- Cheaper food and alcohol imports from continental Europe
- Free movement of labour has helped UK firms plug skills gaps (translators, doctors, plumbers)
- Free movement of labour has helped address shortages of unskilled workers (fruit picking, catering)
- The EU accounts for 47% of the UK’s stock of inward Foreign Direct Investment (FDI), worth over $1.2 trillion
- Access to the EU Single Market has helped attract investment into the UK from outside the EU
- No paperwork or customs for UK exports throughout the single market
- The UK’s net contribution to the EU budget is around €7.3bn, or 0.4% of GDP (less than an eighth of the UK’s defence spending)
- The City of London, as a global financial hub, has acted as a bridge between foreign business and the EU
- EU competition laws protect consumers by combatting monopolistic business practice
- Strict controls on the operations of Multinational Corporations (MNCs) in the EU
- Minority languages such as Welsh and Irish are recognized and protected under EU law
- The right to reside in any EU member state
- The freedom to work in 28 countries without visa and immigration restrictions
- The mutual recognition of professional qualifications has facilitated the free movement of engineers, teachers and doctors across the EU
- The mutual recognition of educational diplomas
- The freedom to study in 28 countries
- The freedom to set up a business in 28 countries
- The ability to retire in any member state
- Pension transferability
- The right to receive emergency healthcare in any member state
- The EU has played a leading role in combatting global warming (Paris 2015 climate change conference)
- EU targets for recycling
- EU policies have stimulated offshore wind farms
- Strict safety standards for cars, buses and trucks
- Protection of endangered species and habitats (EU Natura 2000 network)
- Strict ban on animal testing in the cosmetics industry
- Membership of the European Medicines Agency (EMA) which monitors the quality and safety of medicines
- 13% of EU budget earmarked for scientific research and innovation
- The UK receives £730 million a year in EU funding for research
- EU funding for UK universities
- Cooperation in the peaceful use of nuclear energy as a member of Euratom (important in medicine)
- Minimum paid annual leave and time off work (Working Time Directive)
- The right to work no more than 48 hours a week without paid overtime
- EU cross-country coordination offers greater protection from terrorists, pedophiles, people traffickers and cyber-crime
- The European common arrest warrant
- Europe-wide patent and copyright protection
- EU consumer protection laws concerning transparency and product guarantees of quality and safety
- Improved food labeling
- A ban on growth hormones and other harmful food additives
- Cheaper air travel due to EU competition laws
- Deregulation of the European energy market has increased consumer choice and lowered prices
- Mutual recognition of the common European driving license
- The abolition of mobile telephone roaming charges
- The EU acts as a guarantor of the Irish Good Friday Agreement
- The EU acts as a guarantor of the special status of Gibraltar
- The EU helped support and maintain democracy in Spain, Portugal and Greece from the 1970s and these countries have become major destinations for British tourists
- EU membership has helped facilitate intercultural dialogue | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:53 - May 20 with 1573 views | Highjack |
We’re not people anymore. We’re consumers. Welcome to a brave new world. | |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:56 - May 20 with 1570 views | Batterseajack |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:53 - May 20 by Highjack |
We’re not people anymore. We’re consumers. Welcome to a brave new world. |
Welcome to capitalism mate. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:10 - May 20 with 1550 views | sammylee3 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 15:56 - May 20 by Batterseajack |
Welcome to capitalism mate. |
we have socialism, bank bailouts are not capitalism. A non Brexit is undemocratic
Vote Brexit party! |  | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:37 - May 20 with 1528 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 12:50 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Article 50 is legally binding. |
So are the extensions. |  |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:38 - May 20 with 1528 views | WarwickHunt |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:34 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Democracy does not entail having another vote before the first has been implemented..
.. and why should anyone take your opinion on democracy seriously ?
You were making light of children being bombarded with bricks by religious fanatics at a political rally |
Shut up, you stupid fûcking tart. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:39 - May 20 with 1524 views | exiledclaseboy |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 13:30 - May 20 by sg1912 |
Do we rewrite law every time we have a new government then?
and the government and the opposition voted to invoke A50 |
“Do we rewrite law every time we have a new government then“
Good god yes. Literally all the time. | |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 17:00 - May 20 with 1497 views | AlfieMooresSon |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 11:49 - May 20 by LeonWasGod |
All Brexit voters - you've been betrayed. The best way to show your displeasure is write "Fcuk You' across the middle of your ballot paper. So don't forget to get out there and vote on Friday. |
Farage is going to have the biggest landslide for a new party ever, it's going to be bigger than the polls are predicting. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 17:01 - May 20 with 1494 views | Joe_bradshaw |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:39 - May 20 by exiledclaseboy |
“Do we rewrite law every time we have a new government then“
Good god yes. Literally all the time. |
There wouldn’t be much point in electing a new government if they couldn’t. |  |
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| Vote tactically on Thursday on 17:10 - May 20 with 1485 views | LeonWasGod |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 17:00 - May 20 by AlfieMooresSon |
Farage is going to have the biggest landslide for a new party ever, it's going to be bigger than the polls are predicting. |
Probably. Depressing stuff based on his and UKIP's appalling record of failing to represent us in the EU Parliament. They're some of the least effective and present MEPs in the parliament. It's like Swans fans voting for 5 more years of Bob Bradley. | | | |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 17:14 - May 20 with 1476 views | sg1912 |
| Vote tactically on Thursday on 16:39 - May 20 by exiledclaseboy |
“Do we rewrite law every time we have a new government then“
Good god yes. Literally all the time. |
But they didn’t rewrite the law regarding A50, in fact the general election had the opposite effort. | | | |
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