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Suicidal. On that pitch, recipe for disaster! Lillis should have never been put in that situation to clear it, should have been dealt with like three passes previous.
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Playing out from the back on 20:38 - Dec 15 with 3025 views
Playing out from the back on 20:31 - Dec 15 by dingdangblue
I'm not a Perkins basher, and I thought he had a good game today - but even I can see that he shouldn't have passed the ball back to Lillis so close to the goal and on target and in awful conditions. There wasn't a Plymouth player near him - he was under absolutely no pressure to do what he did - it was easier to turn and run out of the box with the ball than pass it back.
He could possibly have let MJW take the ball, but once that didn’t happen Perkins was outside the box and Plymouth players were around him so it was an understandable option to take. At the time I thought he shouldn’t have passed back, the evidence paints a different story.
Playing out from the back on 20:38 - Dec 15 by 442Dale
He could possibly have let MJW take the ball, but once that didn’t happen Perkins was outside the box and Plymouth players were around him so it was an understandable option to take. At the time I thought he shouldn’t have passed back, the evidence paints a different story.
Run of the mill back pass that the keeper should deal with far better,Perkins didnt have too many options and probably chose the only one, it wasnt even over hit so cant blame the pace of the pass.
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Playing out from the back on 20:51 - Dec 15 with 2983 views
Playing out from the back on 20:38 - Dec 15 by 442Dale
He could possibly have let MJW take the ball, but once that didn’t happen Perkins was outside the box and Plymouth players were around him so it was an understandable option to take. At the time I thought he shouldn’t have passed back, the evidence paints a different story.
Sorry I though he was just inside the box before I saw the footage - he still could have turned away and moved away from the box with the ball - the ball back to Lillis is bouncing more than I thought at the game too - all in all an awful way to concede and lose a game which we should have not lost.
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Trying to be Man City when we're not even Mansfield. Cannon at fault, then Rafferty needed to take a touch, Perkins should.not pass back between the sticks and Lillis should not have tried to take a touch first. As for Perkins it is how he conducts himself on the pitch that grates. Shouting, berating and wildly gesticulating whilst being no world beater. I'd like to see the points return for games he's started.
Playing out from the back on 20:51 - Dec 15 by dingdangblue
Sorry I though he was just inside the box before I saw the footage - he still could have turned away and moved away from the box with the ball - the ball back to Lillis is bouncing more than I thought at the game too - all in all an awful way to concede and lose a game which we should have not lost.
If he'd taken a touch and then lost the ball on the edge of the area he'd have been rightly dragged through the mill on here. It needed an instant decision and he made the right one under the circumstances
Perkins plays the right ball here in my view, has to be dealt with. He's got two Plymouth players around him and plays it to the open Lillis. Had this been Gilks back in the day, or Norman or even Moore in net and any other outfield player instead of Perkins then there would only be one person getting blame here and it's the keeper.
Agree with TVOS that it should never have got to that point as it should have been dealt with by Cannon first and then Rafferty but when it does come to Perkins, he did was anyone else would have done.
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Playing out from the back on 22:18 - Dec 15 with 2760 views
Playing out from the back on 21:02 - Dec 15 by judd
Trying to be Man City when we're not even Mansfield. Cannon at fault, then Rafferty needed to take a touch, Perkins should.not pass back between the sticks and Lillis should not have tried to take a touch first. As for Perkins it is how he conducts himself on the pitch that grates. Shouting, berating and wildly gesticulating whilst being no world beater. I'd like to see the points return for games he's started.
Lillis 12 points from 13 games. Conceded 30 Norman 4 points from 4 games. Conceded 8 Moore 7 points from 4 games Conceded 3
Perkins: Started 10 W1 D3 L6 6 points
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Playing out from the back on 23:14 - Dec 15 with 2639 views
That was a routine backpass. If you can't trust your keeper in that situation then there's no hope. The ball was moving slower than a herd of stampeding turtles ffs and Josh didn't even have to move. As for the phantom bobble, there wasn't one and if you think you see one then it's probably just your internet buffering
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Playing out from the back on 17:09 - Dec 16 with 2358 views
Playing out from the back on 22:53 - Dec 15 by 49thseason
Lillis 12 points from 13 games. Conceded 30 Norman 4 points from 4 games. Conceded 8 Moore 7 points from 4 games Conceded 3
Perkins: Started 10 W1 D3 L6 6 points
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the backpass should be irrelevant , plymouth were poor. For me Lillis was wholly to blame, but I don’t like this attributing blame to anyone but Hill. Perkins was tiring, should have been taken off earlier. Our passing was turgid, I’m recalling not enjoying this season, it’s not like we are being outplayed by better teams. Some on here felt once the ‘tougher’ games were out the way we would find our level , we have it’s a boring error strewn shitshow
Playing out from the back on 07:57 - Dec 16 by JimmyRustler
That was a routine backpass. If you can't trust your keeper in that situation then there's no hope. The ball was moving slower than a herd of stampeding turtles ffs and Josh didn't even have to move. As for the phantom bobble, there wasn't one and if you think you see one then it's probably just your internet buffering
I love the concept of a herd of stampeding turtles but not sure if the collective noun is correct. Having said that, I can't offer a better suggestion so happy to go along with it.
Even decent teams are becoming unstuck playing out from the back. Manchester City's first goal on Saturday came because Everton's Jordan Pickford fired a goalkick to a defender standing by the corner flag who couldn't cope with the subsequent pressure. Why invite teams into your half of the pitch unnecessarily? I'm not advocating hoofball by the way, just a commonsense approach.
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Playing out from the back on 08:20 - Dec 17 with 2017 views
Playing out from the back on 07:59 - Dec 17 by EllDale
Even decent teams are becoming unstuck playing out from the back. Manchester City's first goal on Saturday came because Everton's Jordan Pickford fired a goalkick to a defender standing by the corner flag who couldn't cope with the subsequent pressure. Why invite teams into your half of the pitch unnecessarily? I'm not advocating hoofball by the way, just a commonsense approach.
And Allison dropped a ball that it was easier to catch than drop. Players are people and people make mistakes. Forgiveness is a better quality to show than derision in terms of a player recovering his confidence.
In my view Perkins picked the right pass but picked the wrong direction. Anyone with half a brain knows not to put a back pass aimed at goal, he should have put it to Lillis`s right to give him an angle to clear. Lillis had a forward closing him down at full pelt so had no time to take a touch. No keeper can connect with a ball that takes a freak bounce, so I don`t blame Lillis. Done should never have played the ball inside, he should have turned the player outside as he had already got an advantage for a foul seconds earlier. He could then have either cleared into touch, up the touchline or gone down and got the freekick. Hill is the main problem as he won`t change his thinking when it is obvious this squad is not capable of playing the way he would like. The square peg still won`t fit no matter how many times you hammer it. He blames the players for not being positive enough in the final third yet it is his instruction to play that way. He just won`t accept its his fault, end of story. Henderson should not have to come back to the halfway line to do the job Perkins should be doing. We are carrying too many passengers and if I were Calvin I`d leave cos he isn`t ever going to get decent service under this `tactician`.
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Playing out from the back on 22:03 - Dec 17 with 1801 views
Playing out from the back on 14:08 - Dec 17 by RooleyMoorBlue
In my view Perkins picked the right pass but picked the wrong direction. Anyone with half a brain knows not to put a back pass aimed at goal, he should have put it to Lillis`s right to give him an angle to clear. Lillis had a forward closing him down at full pelt so had no time to take a touch. No keeper can connect with a ball that takes a freak bounce, so I don`t blame Lillis. Done should never have played the ball inside, he should have turned the player outside as he had already got an advantage for a foul seconds earlier. He could then have either cleared into touch, up the touchline or gone down and got the freekick. Hill is the main problem as he won`t change his thinking when it is obvious this squad is not capable of playing the way he would like. The square peg still won`t fit no matter how many times you hammer it. He blames the players for not being positive enough in the final third yet it is his instruction to play that way. He just won`t accept its his fault, end of story. Henderson should not have to come back to the halfway line to do the job Perkins should be doing. We are carrying too many passengers and if I were Calvin I`d leave cos he isn`t ever going to get decent service under this `tactician`.
With respect Done was on the other side of the pitch. It was Cannon who started the calamitous chain of events
Playing out from the back on 22:06 - Dec 17 by judd
With respect Done was on the other side of the pitch. It was Cannon who started the calamitous chain of events
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Agree with that. Cannon should have just played it right-footed up the line, but for some reason turned inside and passed to Rafferty, who was immediately closed down by two Pilgrims.
It was all so avoidable.
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