| Clydach murders on 12:24 - Jul 6 with 5630 views | trampie |
Who had the motive, opportunity and expertise ?...…………………………….hmm
Why did the police act as they did ?????????????...……………………………..hmm
Multiple cases and appeals often mean there is doubt, it often does not mean the verdict was underlined and rubber stamped but the opposite.
The case seems to be as strong against others, Morris had a reason for the chain being at the scene and for him lying about it [whether he was telling the truth or not] but what reason did the police have for their behaviour ???
What about unknown DNA at the scene, did I read on the murder weapon and matches to burn the place ?
There is something radically not right about that case, SW Police has a bad reputation just like other police forces but their handling of this case stinks to high heaven...…...why ???...……….hhm. [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 12:41]
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| Clydach murders on 12:39 - Jul 6 with 5616 views | Neath_Jack |
I couldn't say he done it beyond all reasonable doubt, no way. Too many unanswered questions for me.
I've not been party to all the evidence, the same as those posting on here.
I've spoken to some very senior people in the Police who are all convinced he done it. Neither of these people were about, or had anything to do with the case, when these atrocious murders were carried out. |  |
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| Clydach murders on 12:46 - Jul 6 with 5598 views | trampie |
I know lots of different Clydach people and independently of each other they all think the police have something to do with it and I don't think they are just talking about the police knowing people involved in the case either.
Guilty beyond reasonable doubt ………………….hmm, does this case fit that test...……..hmm | |
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| Clydach murders on 13:04 - Jul 6 with 5574 views | trampie |
Never trust the police, don't trust teachers either and only trust the medical profession if you have to, live by that and it will increase your chances of successfully negotiating life. | |
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| Clydach murders on 13:18 - Jul 6 with 5545 views | trampie |
"The biggest scandal in the history of British justice'', that is what it was called.
Check out the wiki page and the last paragraph of the piece entitled:- 2011: Police corruption trial. [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 13:21]
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| Clydach murders on 14:59 - Jul 6 with 5460 views | Witneyjack |
Where does it say that 'most of Swansea still highly suspect this a SWP stitch up, because of bent cops..' ?
If it doesn't that's one hell of an assumption...... |  | | |
| Clydach murders on 15:52 - Jul 6 with 5411 views | sainthelens |
| Clydach murders on 12:39 - Jul 6 by Neath_Jack |
I couldn't say he done it beyond all reasonable doubt, no way. Too many unanswered questions for me.
I've not been party to all the evidence, the same as those posting on here.
I've spoken to some very senior people in the Police who are all convinced he done it. Neither of these people were about, or had anything to do with the case, when these atrocious murders were carried out. |
What a surprise...anyone expect them to say anything else?!! |  | | |
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| Clydach murders on 16:34 - Jul 6 with 5374 views | moonie |
Most ...of Swansea.. Population ,what 230,000. . Just how is this shyte not challenged .
Just fook off ,please.
You believe what you want to..
Anyway, police are filth. Dafydd Huw said so, then the fookers performed heroics at a London terrorist attack .bastards ,bent,indeed. Just why do they bother with our shite of a population |  | | |
| Clydach murders on 16:40 - Jul 6 with 5364 views | Neath_Jack |
| Clydach murders on 15:52 - Jul 6 by sainthelens |
What a surprise...anyone expect them to say anything else?!! |
Yes actually.
Police officers are just normal people mind, they have their own ideas and opinions as anyone else. Why do you think otherwise? It’s more a case of they know how things on a murder investigation works, whereas you and I will never know the intricacies of it. Both said there was many things wrong with the investigation and how it was carried out as well. But that didn’t mean that the bloke is innocent. | |
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| Clydach murders on 16:42 - Jul 6 with 5359 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 15:52 - Jul 6 by sainthelens |
What a surprise...anyone expect them to say anything else?!! |
I was reminded of the Mandy Rice-Davies quote when I read that post, lol. [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 17:03]
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| Clydach murders on 16:55 - Jul 6 with 5346 views | sainthelens |
| Clydach murders on 16:40 - Jul 6 by Neath_Jack |
Yes actually.
Police officers are just normal people mind, they have their own ideas and opinions as anyone else. Why do you think otherwise? It’s more a case of they know how things on a murder investigation works, whereas you and I will never know the intricacies of it. Both said there was many things wrong with the investigation and how it was carried out as well. But that didn’t mean that the bloke is innocent. |
If any copper starts chatting that he maybe innocent, in a world where anyone could quietly record a conversation, they'd be dull as fck to say anything else. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:31 - Jul 6 with 5300 views | Neath_Jack |
| Clydach murders on 16:55 - Jul 6 by sainthelens |
If any copper starts chatting that he maybe innocent, in a world where anyone could quietly record a conversation, they'd be dull as fck to say anything else. |
Friends don’t do that sort of thing to each other. | |
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| Clydach murders on 17:35 - Jul 6 with 5297 views | sainthelens |
| Clydach murders on 17:31 - Jul 6 by Neath_Jack |
Friends don’t do that sort of thing to each other. |
Just a bit surprised you say they are like everyone else. They arnt trained to think like everyone else. Suspect everyone and they trust no one. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 17:39 - Jul 6 with 5285 views | trampie |
| Clydach murders on 17:31 - Jul 6 by Neath_Jack |
Friends don’t do that sort of thing to each other. |
Are you aware of the spycops scandal ?
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| Clydach murders on 19:41 - Jul 6 with 5210 views | Gowerjack |
| Clydach murders on 13:18 - Jul 6 by trampie |
"The biggest scandal in the history of British justice'', that is what it was called.
Check out the wiki page and the last paragraph of the piece entitled:- 2011: Police corruption trial. [Post edited 6 Jul 2018 13:21]
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An obvious cover up..
SWP looking after their own, Justice not served, £30 million cost to the taxpayer.
Kicked into the long grass.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/found-lost-evidence-that-let-police-
Both inept and corrupt. |  |
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| Clydach murders on 20:08 - Jul 6 with 5173 views | moonie |
If its Welsh then it's good ,ergo,English police filth as dafydd Hugh says .
Make up your fookn mind | | | |
| Clydach murders on 20:11 - Jul 6 with 5168 views | Jack123 |
I have read parts of the evidence, but the coppers are implicated 100%..Something is not right... |  |
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| Clydach murders on 20:45 - Jul 6 with 5120 views | Flashberryjack |
| Clydach murders on 20:11 - Jul 6 by Jack123 |
I have read parts of the evidence, but the coppers are implicated 100%..Something is not right... |
The right man is in jail. |  |
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| Clydach murders on 20:51 - Jul 6 with 5111 views | Paxton |
| Clydach murders on 08:11 - Jul 6 by exhmrc1 |
Look at the actual facts. Morris had a very distinctive chain which matched the one found in the house. He continually denied this was his throughout all questioning until a couple of days before the first trial when he changed his story to say he had left it there the night before when he claimed he had sex. This was after the prosecution had shown their evidence that the paint on the chain matched the paint at his house. They also had evidence that his relative had purchased a similar chain in Swansea which the relative admitted he had bought for Morris and Morris did so to make it look like he still had that chain. His girlfriend had given him an alibi throughout that he was with her. This story later got changed to him having an argument with her and walking to his mothers house 5 miles away. He had been drinking all day yet was still able to walk the 5 miles along country lanes largely without pavements. Nobody saw a guy in a drunken state along the route taken. The people in the pub knew him and nobody noticed the chain he supposedly left the day before in Power's house was missing. Surely someone would have noticed that. The chain showed signs of struggle. If he had left it there the day before when he supposedly had sex why was the chain so damaged.
Morris was told by his solicitor that he had represented one of the Lewis' and that he could not attack them. He knew this but still wanted the solicitor to represent him when he could have chosen any solicitor in Swansea. This conflict of interest was the reason the original verdict was quashed and a retrial was ordered.
At the retrial Morris was represented by Michael Mansfield QC who has been involved in numerous miscarriages of justice and subsequently overturned the verdict. Despite his undoubted abilities the jury again found Morris guilty.
SWP certainly made mistakes in the case which has led people believing the police were involved. The high profile arrest of the Lewis family with press being involved didnt help. Neither did the fact they removed the local police and concentrated on officers from the Cardiff area. A couple of local CID officers were either from or married into a very well known Clydach family. Their knowledge of the area was not used. |
Michael Mansfield represented Morris for the Appeal and presented the Appeal in Court. For the retrial, Mansfield couldn't present the case in court, he was on another case. A young QC Gareth Rees presented his case in court. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 20:59 - Jul 6 with 5099 views | moonie |
MM only does it for MM
He will stop at nothing to see the most evil Kunts walk | | | |
| Clydach murders on 01:27 - Jul 7 with 4980 views | whiterock |
I have no idea if Dai Morris did the murders or not but something that puzzles me is, if he was having an affair with Ms Power, and had had sex with the lady on the Friday before the murders when he claims he lost his chain then wouldn’t his DNA be there, whoever did the murders, police or Morris couldn’t have cleaned it up 24 hours later.
There is a possible miscarriage of justice here but the other question id like answered is was he having the affair or was it something he just lusted after? | | | |
| Clydach murders on 06:14 - Jul 7 with 4934 views | exhmrc1 |
The claim he left his chain there whilst having sex with her the night before was not made until a few days before the first trial. Up until then he had continually denied it was his chain found there. His relative had even bought a replacement chain to show this. When the prosecution declared their evidence that showed the paint on the chain matched the paint in Morris' house and that the relative had admitted purchasing a similar chain for him his story changed that it was his chain and that he had left it there the night before when he had sex with her. 2 juries have heard his story and rejected it unanimously. | | | |
| Clydach murders on 08:32 - Jul 7 with 4901 views | Brynmill_Jack |
| Clydach murders on 11:02 - Jul 6 by controversial_jack |
The police are hardly going to charge one of their own |
Especially if belonging to the funny handshake brigade ..... |  |
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| Clydach murders on 11:43 - Jul 7 with 4845 views | PentyrchJack |
| Clydach murders on 21:40 - Jul 5 by Jackfath |
Did he not do it then? |
.....there were lots of unusual coincidences that night, police cars that vanished into thin air for hours without trace and witnesses who saw key people in the area other than Dai Morris....
I'm not suggesting this is a fit up or a miscarriage of justice - nevertheless there were lots of other ones at the time! |  |
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