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you are getting these Monotone vibes DD because just like your missus he drones on about the same old , same old , and after a while you switch off to it and ignore it
a bit like sitting with the wife when she starts talking about IKEA or putting the bins out
instead of playing Carla Delevingne Evening standard bingo on your 6.57 trip into Liverpool street how about playing Tony Fernades bingo
Exciting times, New stadium, having the QPR bug, training ground almost approved, fighting FFP , trusting others , we r together , Got my pants pulled down, learning from my mistakes , HOUSE !!!!!
also for those slagging Neil Warnock because you didn't get a poxy email or because in your heads it was his time to leave, or the football was sh1te go fcuk yourselves , your not even real QPR fans
the man won us a league title in one of the hardest leagues in Europe playing some of the best football we had seen in 20 years , the man is a winner compared to serial loser "uncle tone" and has forgotten more about football than this idiot will ever know
he deserved another season at least and ever since that fatal day we sacked him we have regressed |
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Yep, I was there. It was an awful experience what with Faurlin doing his cruciate and they were joined in the singing of "Premier league, you're having laugh" by many of our own fans!. Found out he was sacked whilst I was waiting in the car at MK station-can't say I was disappointed by it, to be honest. |
I was there too - I have to admit I don't recall there being that much of a 'Warnock out' feel from the QPR fans that day, fair to say though we did not play well and it was a very typical QPR FA Cup 3rd round performance.
Don't forget we were not doing that badly in the League and were not in the bottom three, I didn't think Warnock had to go at the time and can't help feeling the likes of Barton were already undermining him, and had the ear of the chairman to help him make that decision. Look how long it has taken us to recover as a club since then. |  |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:05 - May 1 with 2724 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 08:28 - May 1 by paulparker |
you are getting these Monotone vibes DD because just like your missus he drones on about the same old , same old , and after a while you switch off to it and ignore it
a bit like sitting with the wife when she starts talking about IKEA or putting the bins out
instead of playing Carla Delevingne Evening standard bingo on your 6.57 trip into Liverpool street how about playing Tony Fernades bingo
Exciting times, New stadium, having the QPR bug, training ground almost approved, fighting FFP , trusting others , we r together , Got my pants pulled down, learning from my mistakes , HOUSE !!!!!
also for those slagging Neil Warnock because you didn't get a poxy email or because in your heads it was his time to leave, or the football was sh1te go fcuk yourselves , your not even real QPR fans
the man won us a league title in one of the hardest leagues in Europe playing some of the best football we had seen in 20 years , the man is a winner compared to serial loser "uncle tone" and has forgotten more about football than this idiot will ever know
he deserved another season at least and ever since that fatal day we sacked him we have regressed |
We were doing a pretty good job of regressing a fair bit before the day he was sacked. Do you want the list again of the five toss-pots he spunked Uncle Tone's cash on ?
Joey Barton
Luke Young
Armand Traoré
Shaun Wright-Phillips
Anton Ferdinand
Impressive, huh? Every one a coconut! And paying them sixty large when Taarabt was probably only on 20k was the hand grenade that splattered the dressing room. First game after he left was started from the comfort of the relegation zone. Yeah, we've got a lot to thank him for, good and bad.
And don't tell us who the real QPR fans are, you opinionated little git. Practice what you preach and go fcuk yourself. |  |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:14 - May 1 with 2701 views | paulparker |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:05 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
We were doing a pretty good job of regressing a fair bit before the day he was sacked. Do you want the list again of the five toss-pots he spunked Uncle Tone's cash on ?
Joey Barton
Luke Young
Armand Traoré
Shaun Wright-Phillips
Anton Ferdinand
Impressive, huh? Every one a coconut! And paying them sixty large when Taarabt was probably only on 20k was the hand grenade that splattered the dressing room. First game after he left was started from the comfort of the relegation zone. Yeah, we've got a lot to thank him for, good and bad.
And don't tell us who the real QPR fans are, you opinionated little git. Practice what you preach and go fcuk yourself. |
ha ha ha ha ha good one Alkey !!!!
how about you do some homework , put down the cheap cans and cast your mind back to that pre season before talking uttersh1te and getting all brave because your on the other side of the world
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| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:20 - May 1 with 2687 views | A40Bosh |
A good listen and I picked up on the IH situation and it got me thinking, perhaps IH is running/has run out of time and there will be a change in the coming weeks.
I thought it a little odd that, after spending time name checking a number of players and singling them out for discussion by name and then later referring to the DOF as "Les" , when TF was talking about IH, then other than on one occasion when he mentioned "Les & Ian" in the same sentence he seemed to always refer to IH as "he". No real warmth or signs of any great relationship going on there.
Perhaps with his previous having his "pants pulled down" it has made him more cautious in his dealings with his managers and not getting too close to them and now he has a reluctance to heap too much praise on to them - I suppose you could justifiably argue that none of the last crop of deserved that much anyway.
On the other hand he did then recognise that IH and Les had done a good job with the hand that they were dealt, so perhaps, as my old man would say, he is just keeping his cards close to his chest, as there may be negotiations with IH this summer about his contract and he doesn't want the IH side thinking that they are in a strong position because he can prove to TF that he has hit his "performance management" targets of trimming the squad and budget, bringing through the youth and managing to stay up.
Part of me still thinks that despite this comments around the way we want to build on things now (and denying that FFP was the main factor which has forced them to be prudent owners now) there could still be part of his ego that wants to be a successful Chairman and "sup at the top table". So perhaps he still is hoping that if he keeps looking hard enough there will be another Eddie Howe out their or Sean Dyche who have the ability to do all the things IH has done with the squad but put together a sustainable team that can pay effective football both home and away and romp the league, go up and then more importantly stay up.
I am not so sure now of IH being in post come pre-season as I had been up to this point. So if they are going to do it, then they had better do it sooner rather than later.
On the other hand, the home performances of late and the run of good results at home with us playing some tidy football may just be enough for TF to give IH another season to take us to the next level. And by that I mean he still wants promotion despite talking down the importance of it in the short term. |  |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:36 - May 1 with 2634 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:14 - May 1 by paulparker |
ha ha ha ha ha good one Alkey !!!!
how about you do some homework , put down the cheap cans and cast your mind back to that pre season before talking uttersh1te and getting all brave because your on the other side of the world
you are without doubt a helmet of the highest order |
Pre-season, what the f*ck are you talking about? Do you think scaring Tavistock and Bodmin means anything compared to the Premier?
Come back when you've got some facts to back up your idiotic ravings. That list of transfers is all down to Warnock and we started our next game in the relegation zone. Facts. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:44 - May 1 with 2615 views | ingeminate |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:36 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
Pre-season, what the f*ck are you talking about? Do you think scaring Tavistock and Bodmin means anything compared to the Premier?
Come back when you've got some facts to back up your idiotic ravings. That list of transfers is all down to Warnock and we started our next game in the relegation zone. Facts. |
That list of players is poor, but here were mitigating circumstances, Tango and Cash left Warnock in the lurch. He had virtually no time to properly scout players, no idea of what sort of budget he would have and really had to take a punt on whoever he could get in at short notice.
Easy to be wise after the event but everyone thought signing SWP was an unbelievable coup and there were not that many dissenting voices about Barton either. He might have made all the same signings with proper time to plan, but it's a bit unfair to assume he definitely would have done. |  |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:48 - May 1 with 2599 views | TheChef |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:36 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
Pre-season, what the f*ck are you talking about? Do you think scaring Tavistock and Bodmin means anything compared to the Premier?
Come back when you've got some facts to back up your idiotic ravings. That list of transfers is all down to Warnock and we started our next game in the relegation zone. Facts. |
Not sure if that is entirely true that we were in the bottom 3 after the MK Dons game. See table below from 12th January 2012 where we are 4th from bottom.
https://bet2go.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/premier-league-table-12-january-2012/
Agreed that Warnock should take his fair share of the blame for those signings (I still wonder though if they would have gone through, if Fernandes had taken over the club in September rather than August - one of those sliding doors moments...) but we had some decent results that autumn (away wins at Everton, Wolves, Stoke). I think Warnock deserved to be given the full season and who knows, we might have survived better than we did under Hughes. But I can't help feeling Fernandes was too easily swayed by other characters in the club to sack him. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:49 - May 1 with 2599 views | CroydonCaptJack |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:44 - May 1 by ingeminate |
That list of players is poor, but here were mitigating circumstances, Tango and Cash left Warnock in the lurch. He had virtually no time to properly scout players, no idea of what sort of budget he would have and really had to take a punt on whoever he could get in at short notice.
Easy to be wise after the event but everyone thought signing SWP was an unbelievable coup and there were not that many dissenting voices about Barton either. He might have made all the same signings with proper time to plan, but it's a bit unfair to assume he definitely would have done. |
That is a fair point.
I was at that MK Dons game (I am sure loads of us on here were as there was thousands there that day - their biggest crowd ever at the time I seem to recall) and it was the first time I saw the crowd turn on NW. I was near the dug out and he seemed visibly shaken by it at the time. I remember feeling pretty sad the next day after he was sacked but I don't remember feeling surprised unfortunately. |  | | |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:56 - May 1 with 2582 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:44 - May 1 by ingeminate |
That list of players is poor, but here were mitigating circumstances, Tango and Cash left Warnock in the lurch. He had virtually no time to properly scout players, no idea of what sort of budget he would have and really had to take a punt on whoever he could get in at short notice.
Easy to be wise after the event but everyone thought signing SWP was an unbelievable coup and there were not that many dissenting voices about Barton either. He might have made all the same signings with proper time to plan, but it's a bit unfair to assume he definitely would have done. |
And I made similar observations in the Ollie thread (time of post 19:43). But I'm not having that everything was rosy under Warnock. He signed those players and that's where we were in the league table.
PP abuses everybody who disagrees with his moronic re-writings of history so it's time he copped a bit of cold reality. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:15 - May 1 with 2559 views | daveB |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:44 - May 1 by ingeminate |
That list of players is poor, but here were mitigating circumstances, Tango and Cash left Warnock in the lurch. He had virtually no time to properly scout players, no idea of what sort of budget he would have and really had to take a punt on whoever he could get in at short notice.
Easy to be wise after the event but everyone thought signing SWP was an unbelievable coup and there were not that many dissenting voices about Barton either. He might have made all the same signings with proper time to plan, but it's a bit unfair to assume he definitely would have done. |
He didn't have to take a punt. He had already signed 5/6 players that summer but the money came in and the owners and Warnock got excited and threw money at it. All of them were well received by us fans at the time.
I'm sure Warnock regrets some of those signings now but we still stayed up that year, the real damage was done years before in creating a culture of short term thinking, lack of investment in academy and scouting which meant the club had no foundations to build from. |  | | |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:20 - May 1 with 2543 views | paulparker |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:36 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
Pre-season, what the f*ck are you talking about? Do you think scaring Tavistock and Bodmin means anything compared to the Premier?
Come back when you've got some facts to back up your idiotic ravings. That list of transfers is all down to Warnock and we started our next game in the relegation zone. Facts. |
oh dear , oh dear , no not bodmin or tavistock dear
cast your mind back to pre season 2011 we were the champions of the championship all fluked of course by that chancer or crook Neil Warnock (never returns emails apparently , tut tut )
he had deals in place for Ashley Williams , Kyle Naughton, Danny Graham, Wayne Routledge , Patrick van arnolt, he was also trying to get in scott parker from relegated west ham, Warnock was assured by Amit that he would be buying the club from tango and cash and all would be good , now as time went on briatore was not going to sell to Amit , we then lost out on those named players who would have strengthed the squad no end , look at Swansea now for your proof , Warnock then had to go plan B and get in Boothroyd who had been a regular championship striker who scored over 15 goals a season and got an England call , he then had to sell Gorkks to get in DJ Campbell a QPR fan who had a belter of a season with Blackpool in the EPL both were greeted with lots of joy on here I seem to recall , to replace Gorkks he had to get in a paladini suggested centre back in Bruno Perrone , he only had one right back in Bradley Orr so had to get in Kieron Dyer to make up the numbers and Adel was wanting to go to PSG , the whole pre season was a farce we had about 15 players go to Italy (not bodmin or tavistock) ,
then our lord and saviour came riding in to the sunset uncle tone , we had a week of the transfer window to try and bulk up the numbers and get in players to help with a long slog in staying up , again neil wanted Zamora , Parker & Bassong , but bassong fell through as spurs couldn't sign cahill and parker was holding on for spurs which he got ,
so he got in Barton (who everyone thought was a bargain on a free, ) SWP (who was then thought of by everyone as a better buy than routledge) , Traore who was seen as decent back up , Anton Ferdinand who was our 3rd choice signing behind Alex and Bassong and who started here very well BTW and only fell to pieces after the terry scandal , now please tell me who you would have bought in during that last week ??????
Now you talk about facts here's a fact Warnock never had us in the relegation zone , we had away wins at Stoke& Everton , beat Chelsea at home what more did we want ??
no that wasn't good enough for some was it for you had idiots who jeered him at MK Dons and at other games and who still want an email ffs
good old uncle tone started the selfish take it all attitude at this club , you talk about warnocks "dodgy signings " well they all regressed big time under mark hughes , funny that isn't it , you know that bloke who came and interviewed us whilst our lord and saviour tone was all giddy and smitten across the desk and who lets faced it saddled us with more sh1t signings ,
what I cant get my head around is morons who slag off a manager who gave us our best ever memories whilst having the pressure of the faurlin scandal but will back a bloke to the moon who has spunked hundreds of millions, saddled us with horrible signings, who gave us phil beard , mark hughes, harry redknapp , who undermines current managers and DOF with stupid twitter comments , who made a div of himself about OOC , still hasn't sorted a training ground despite initial promises , a man who never found us in the relegation places as you put it but now has us nearer to league one than 15th in the Premier league and has had two bites of the cherry btw in that premier league to get it right , he has failed and still continues to put his foot in his mouth when Holloway is doing his hardest to rectify this clowns mistakes
so there's your facts !!!! | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 09:48 - May 1 by TheChef |
Not sure if that is entirely true that we were in the bottom 3 after the MK Dons game. See table below from 12th January 2012 where we are 4th from bottom.
https://bet2go.wordpress.com/2012/01/12/premier-league-table-12-january-2012/
Agreed that Warnock should take his fair share of the blame for those signings (I still wonder though if they would have gone through, if Fernandes had taken over the club in September rather than August - one of those sliding doors moments...) but we had some decent results that autumn (away wins at Everton, Wolves, Stoke). I think Warnock deserved to be given the full season and who knows, we might have survived better than we did under Hughes. But I can't help feeling Fernandes was too easily swayed by other characters in the club to sack him. |
Find a table for the 14th of January and have a look.
If the takeover had gone through earlier or later, yeah, it could have been very different. But it didn't and so we'll never know.
I don't know on what you are basing your idea of 'other characters swaying Fernandes'. I'd say he was most likely swayed by being fourth from bottom on the 8th of January after the abject display he'd watched the day before when we fluked a draw with the Dons.
Warnock didn't 'deserve a season'. He didn't own the club; it wasn't his to relegate. Fernandes thought the risk of relegation was looking too great to bear so he cleared Warnock out while there was still some transfer window left for an incoming manager. Yes, he stuffed up that choice but that doesn't make getting rid of Warnock wrong. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:59 - May 1 with 2458 views | paulparker |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:38 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
Find a table for the 14th of January and have a look.
If the takeover had gone through earlier or later, yeah, it could have been very different. But it didn't and so we'll never know.
I don't know on what you are basing your idea of 'other characters swaying Fernandes'. I'd say he was most likely swayed by being fourth from bottom on the 8th of January after the abject display he'd watched the day before when we fluked a draw with the Dons.
Warnock didn't 'deserve a season'. He didn't own the club; it wasn't his to relegate. Fernandes thought the risk of relegation was looking too great to bear so he cleared Warnock out while there was still some transfer window left for an incoming manager. Yes, he stuffed up that choice but that doesn't make getting rid of Warnock wrong. |
Kia Joorbachin definitely swayed him ( you know mark hughes agent) phil beard did
mark hughes did, other agents did ( we had the most highest agent fees in the whole of football btw ) moron fans who think we should have been 5th in the league did , there's a few for starters
we were never in the relegation places under Warnock and as you like facts so much he actually had more away wins under his belt than mark hughes ever did in the EPL for us
Warnock did deserve a full season and then the season after , because after he was sacked (TF didn't have the guts to do that to his face either) we lost our soul and was raped by the vultures like Hughes ,Redknapp and the other cronies all that good work undone , the rest is history | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:02 - May 1 with 2452 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:20 - May 1 by paulparker |
oh dear , oh dear , no not bodmin or tavistock dear
cast your mind back to pre season 2011 we were the champions of the championship all fluked of course by that chancer or crook Neil Warnock (never returns emails apparently , tut tut )
he had deals in place for Ashley Williams , Kyle Naughton, Danny Graham, Wayne Routledge , Patrick van arnolt, he was also trying to get in scott parker from relegated west ham, Warnock was assured by Amit that he would be buying the club from tango and cash and all would be good , now as time went on briatore was not going to sell to Amit , we then lost out on those named players who would have strengthed the squad no end , look at Swansea now for your proof , Warnock then had to go plan B and get in Boothroyd who had been a regular championship striker who scored over 15 goals a season and got an England call , he then had to sell Gorkks to get in DJ Campbell a QPR fan who had a belter of a season with Blackpool in the EPL both were greeted with lots of joy on here I seem to recall , to replace Gorkks he had to get in a paladini suggested centre back in Bruno Perrone , he only had one right back in Bradley Orr so had to get in Kieron Dyer to make up the numbers and Adel was wanting to go to PSG , the whole pre season was a farce we had about 15 players go to Italy (not bodmin or tavistock) ,
then our lord and saviour came riding in to the sunset uncle tone , we had a week of the transfer window to try and bulk up the numbers and get in players to help with a long slog in staying up , again neil wanted Zamora , Parker & Bassong , but bassong fell through as spurs couldn't sign cahill and parker was holding on for spurs which he got ,
so he got in Barton (who everyone thought was a bargain on a free, ) SWP (who was then thought of by everyone as a better buy than routledge) , Traore who was seen as decent back up , Anton Ferdinand who was our 3rd choice signing behind Alex and Bassong and who started here very well BTW and only fell to pieces after the terry scandal , now please tell me who you would have bought in during that last week ??????
Now you talk about facts here's a fact Warnock never had us in the relegation zone , we had away wins at Stoke& Everton , beat Chelsea at home what more did we want ??
no that wasn't good enough for some was it for you had idiots who jeered him at MK Dons and at other games and who still want an email ffs
good old uncle tone started the selfish take it all attitude at this club , you talk about warnocks "dodgy signings " well they all regressed big time under mark hughes , funny that isn't it , you know that bloke who came and interviewed us whilst our lord and saviour tone was all giddy and smitten across the desk and who lets faced it saddled us with more sh1t signings ,
what I cant get my head around is morons who slag off a manager who gave us our best ever memories whilst having the pressure of the faurlin scandal but will back a bloke to the moon who has spunked hundreds of millions, saddled us with horrible signings, who gave us phil beard , mark hughes, harry redknapp , who undermines current managers and DOF with stupid twitter comments , who made a div of himself about OOC , still hasn't sorted a training ground despite initial promises , a man who never found us in the relegation places as you put it but now has us nearer to league one than 15th in the Premier league and has had two bites of the cherry btw in that premier league to get it right , he has failed and still continues to put his foot in his mouth when Holloway is doing his hardest to rectify this clowns mistakes
so there's your facts !!!! |
Well at least you've stopped calling me an "Alkey".
So, it's crystal clear who signed that handful of drones, and still you complain about Fernandes "saddling us with horrible signings"? You see, according to you, Warnock does nothing wrong, Fernandes does nothing right. You have no honesty.
And you're right that we were never in the relegation zone under Warnock, but we were in the relegation zone before the very next game. And well done for listing all four wins under Warnock. What more could we ask for? How about more than four wins out of twenty league games? Let's not forget the five draws, too, That held down our losses to only 55%.
Let's not forget the abject draw at the Dons and getting beaten by Rochdale at home in our cup games.
There's your scintillating performance stats.
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:02 - May 1 with 2452 views | simmo |
I'll come back to this thread when I've listened to it all (currently 3/4 of the way through), but did anybody else come away thinking Holloway might not be here come the new season? That plus his difficult decisions tweets makes me think the shareholder end of season meeting will be about if they can get a perceived 'better option'. |  |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:09 - May 1 with 2440 views | daveB |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:02 - May 1 by simmo |
I'll come back to this thread when I've listened to it all (currently 3/4 of the way through), but did anybody else come away thinking Holloway might not be here come the new season? That plus his difficult decisions tweets makes me think the shareholder end of season meeting will be about if they can get a perceived 'better option'. |
That was the feeling I got as well. I'd be surprised if he is still manager come August | | | |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:09 - May 1 with 2440 views | NW10Hoop |
I really enjoyed the podcast, and generally speaking I like and am a supporter of Tony Fernandes.
Although being a tad uneventful, the last couple of seasons feel like the club has turned a corner and it got me thinking. What kind of club would we have if everything was successful from the beginning? If Mark Hughes had guided us to sixth before being replaced by some big deal from Italy who took us to fifth and so on. Would we have the youth coming through? Would engagement with the community still be such an important cog? With Phillip Beard, Mike Rigg and the like shaping the club?
Don't get me wrong, I love the idea of us being a top half Premier league club with all the entertainment, coverage and improved facilities that would come with it, but I feel like the abject failure of trying to do it in a "non QPR" way, learning from our mistakes and getting there the right way may end up being the more comfortable fit for our club
If we do end up getting back up to the Premier League in the near future it'll feel earned, not bought, and if TF brings that, a new Stadium within a few miles of Loftus road and Warren Farm that'd be a hell of a turnaround.
Sorry to be cheesy, I just feel quite optimistic that by the time my son is old enough to come to QPR, he may just want to do so of his own accord. |  | | |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:11 - May 1 with 2430 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 10:59 - May 1 by paulparker |
Kia Joorbachin definitely swayed him ( you know mark hughes agent) phil beard did
mark hughes did, other agents did ( we had the most highest agent fees in the whole of football btw ) moron fans who think we should have been 5th in the league did , there's a few for starters
we were never in the relegation places under Warnock and as you like facts so much he actually had more away wins under his belt than mark hughes ever did in the EPL for us
Warnock did deserve a full season and then the season after , because after he was sacked (TF didn't have the guts to do that to his face either) we lost our soul and was raped by the vultures like Hughes ,Redknapp and the other cronies all that good work undone , the rest is history |
The only way that Kia Joorabchian was able to get Fernandes' ear was because Warnock was making such a dog's breakfast of the job. If he'd been doing better, Fernandes wouldn't have had any need to listen to a sales pitch for Hughes.
And yeah, Hughes was pathetic away from home. (Let's not mention Holloway here, of course.) But do you want to look at how many games Warnock won at home that season? One.
Just. One. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:14 - May 1 with 2421 views | isawqpratwcity |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:09 - May 1 by daveB |
That was the feeling I got as well. I'd be surprised if he is still manager come August |
Yeah, but do you think that Fernandes is going to sack him? I wonder if there has been some discussion that maybe Holloway is going to step down. | |
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:18 - May 1 with 2413 views | Gloucs_R |
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They're going for LCS, but they're waiting until after local elections this week before going big and public with it. |
Thanks Clive. Makes perfect sense. I'm happy with that as a location.
Just seen this on wiki:
Future
QPR have plans to redevelop the site into a 30,000 seater stadium with a nearby athletics track for Thames Valley Harriers, currently the plans are only currently at an early stage. [Post edited 1 May 2018 11:31]
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:23 - May 1 with 2399 views | paulparker |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:02 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
Well at least you've stopped calling me an "Alkey".
So, it's crystal clear who signed that handful of drones, and still you complain about Fernandes "saddling us with horrible signings"? You see, according to you, Warnock does nothing wrong, Fernandes does nothing right. You have no honesty.
And you're right that we were never in the relegation zone under Warnock, but we were in the relegation zone before the very next game. And well done for listing all four wins under Warnock. What more could we ask for? How about more than four wins out of twenty league games? Let's not forget the five draws, too, That held down our losses to only 55%.
Let's not forget the abject draw at the Dons and getting beaten by Rochdale at home in our cup games.
There's your scintillating performance stats.
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we had a week before the end of the transfer window to get reinforcements into the squad a lot of those players regressed under Hughes that's fact , clubs are going to overprice players average players when a club is desperate and been just taken over by a "money man" on the last day of the window which again became a trait of TF doing his business on the last day for egotistical reasons , if we had got our initial targets I would say we would have been a more stable premier league club
you go on about these 4 wins well one of those was against Chelsea and one against Everton when we had Patrick Augymang up top a near miracle I would say, we played Wolves off the park at their place , and won at stoke when not many teams did we should have beaten WBA and was unlucky to draw, we got ourselves back into it against Villa to get another draw when we had 10 men , we battered Newcastle and how that stayed 0-0 is still a mystery , we showed guts to come back against Swansea , when you look back at that table we stayed up by 1 point so maybe one of those "terrible draws kept us up , you talk about scintillating performances , well we had the game of the season at HQ against City and were very , very unlucky to lose 2-3
those are FACTS
Neil Warnock made mistakes but show me a manager who doesn't , the norweign fella and hulse were crap buys but Hill, Derry, Kenny, Mackie , Routledge , Miller were very decent and if NW had been given the signings he wanted from the start it would have been different , he deserved time and deserved 2 seasons at least | |
| And Bowles is onside, Swinburne has come rushing out of his goal , what can Bowles do here , onto the left foot no, on to the right foot
That’s there that’s two, and that’s Bowles
Brian Moore
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:27 - May 1 with 2376 views | FDC |
Good interview by the Open All Rs lots. Regarding Fernandes, my opinion of him remains the same: as a person clearly very affable, and clearly something of a narcissist who is very comfortable rewriting history somewhat where it suits him. He has obviously rationalised all that has gone before in his own mind and sticks rigidly to his telling of history despite it being somewhat riddled with contradictions.
I take David Fraser's point in his blog that TF clearly does know and love football, and that that might not be all that common for a club chairman. But I do question his wisdom. He ties himself in knots by insisting that he remains on Twitter because he wants to be open and is happy to be criticised when in the next sentence he makes it clear that he thinks the criticism he receives is unfair. That may or may not be true, but it is plainly obvious that he remains on Twitter out of vanity and the love of his high profile. Being vain isn't a problem as far as being a chairman goes per se, but like I say I question his wisdom and judgement.
One particular passage made me laugh out loud. It went something like:
"We appointed JFH because we wanted to play more attacking football. We thought 'he's a striker, you know?'"
"At Burton there were lots of 0-0s and 1-0s"
[pause]
[thoughtfully] "Yeah... yeah we asked him about that"
I was also struck by his casually mentioning that he nagged IH to play 4-4-2. Whether or not the majority on here agree with that being the best formation for this squad, if that had been Briatore we'd be up in arms. Again, he says "I mustn't interfere as a chairman but I'm a fan too", playing to the crowd, but I question his wisdom in this regard.
As ever, in his defence we can all say "he's got the best intentions for the club at heart", "be careful what you wish for" etc. All of which is true, and I'm certainly not suggesting we hound him out of the club (he actually said something in the podcast about the shareholders could have walked away but we haven't, which again I'm not really sure is true). But if he is to be so open then he is inviting scrutiny, and a lot of what he says simply doesn't hang together. [Post edited 1 May 2018 11:53]
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| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:27 - May 1 with 2369 views | Esox_Lucius |
| Tony Fernandes podcast on 11:11 - May 1 by isawqpratwcity |
The only way that Kia Joorabchian was able to get Fernandes' ear was because Warnock was making such a dog's breakfast of the job. If he'd been doing better, Fernandes wouldn't have had any need to listen to a sales pitch for Hughes.
And yeah, Hughes was pathetic away from home. (Let's not mention Holloway here, of course.) But do you want to look at how many games Warnock won at home that season? One.
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Which was why he had around 10k QPR fans calling for his head at MK Dons. He was the harbinger of his own fate that season with abject performances as a whole and seemingly clueless as to how to turn it around. That was the season that he openly admitted that he left dressing room discipline to the players themselves and we saw how that went. Never was the phrase "you are only as good as your last success" truer. Getting rid of him was a good decision, what happened after that wasn't. I also believe that we would be in a much better place if it hadn't been candleface who replaced Hughes, that, admittedly, is hindsight. Perhaps it was necessary for the whole debacle to run it's course to allow us to be where we are now, if it had been just a large amount of money lost since promotion rather than an obscene amount we may still be chasing the dream in the same fashion. If IH is to leave this summer I would love to see Chris Wilder given a go as he seems like a slightly better version of IH and is used to dealing with limited budgets and less well known players. Whether we could afford him is a whole different can of worms. |  |
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