| British fight back? 00:44 - Jun 20 with 5801 views | BrynCartwright |
Before I get onto this one let me please explain that I am a left wing snowflake liberal that wants everyone to just get along and love each other. I used to live on Hornsey Rd, nr Finchley Park for 2 years. It was by far the best place I ever lived in London in the 8 yrs I loved there.
However, after last night's incident in Finsbury Park, how many British, white people are actually thinking what a lot of other people are thinking?
That last night was just a natural fight back against what has been happening recently?
Imagine your daughter was blown to bits by that twa t in Manchester?
It is unpalatable, but there are plenty of people around this country contemplating "tooth for a tooth".
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| British fight back? on 06:31 - Jun 20 with 2931 views | waynekerr55 |
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| British fight back? on 06:34 - Jun 20 with 2927 views | pikeypaul |
The leftie wak@ers will b along in a minute Bryn.
How dare you think the British should not accept what's
been going on it's all our fault after all. |  |
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| British fight back? on 07:09 - Jun 20 with 2880 views | Batterseajack |
How can it be a justified fight back if the people outside Finsbury Park mosque had nothing to do with recent terrorist events? They were innocent people. There is never a reason for terrorism and justifying it in this way is no different to the Manchester loser using Libya as an excuse to blow up kids.
I think the daily mail and the sun need to start taking responsibility for the rise of the hard right in this country. Jo coxes murder and now this. |  | | |
| British fight back? on 07:35 - Jun 20 with 2840 views | dickythorpe |
I have always said I wondered how long it would be before some "white" person strapped a suicide vest on and went into a mosque or something near to that.
I'm gutted to be proved right. GUTTED. |  | | |
| British fight back? on 07:44 - Jun 20 with 2815 views | SoberBaker |
| British fight back? on 07:35 - Jun 20 by dickythorpe |
I have always said I wondered how long it would be before some "white" person strapped a suicide vest on and went into a mosque or something near to that.
I'm gutted to be proved right. GUTTED. |
Nothing has been proved yet. Something fishy going on here.
Sounds like the old fella was in a bad way before the van struck.
Where is the footage of white van man shouting that he wants to kill Muslims?
White van man looked hammered in the footage...was it just a coincidental drink drive incident that happens every day (but hardly gets reported)?
Terrorism my arse! |  |
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| British fight back? on 07:47 - Jun 20 with 2807 views | johnlangy |
| British fight back? on 07:35 - Jun 20 by dickythorpe |
I have always said I wondered how long it would be before some "white" person strapped a suicide vest on and went into a mosque or something near to that.
I'm gutted to be proved right. GUTTED. |
Should that not be white terrorist Dicky ?
Unsurprisingly the Mail online refers to him as 'white van driver' not white terrorist. What's the difference if you use a white van or a Hyundai Tucson ? They're both acts of terrorism. | | | |
| British fight back? on 08:06 - Jun 20 with 2761 views | exiledclaseboy |
| British fight back? on 07:44 - Jun 20 by SoberBaker |
Nothing has been proved yet. Something fishy going on here.
Sounds like the old fella was in a bad way before the van struck.
Where is the footage of white van man shouting that he wants to kill Muslims?
White van man looked hammered in the footage...was it just a coincidental drink drive incident that happens every day (but hardly gets reported)?
Terrorism my arse! |
Bloody hell. |  |
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| British fight back? on 08:16 - Jun 20 with 2744 views | BigPhilG |
| British fight back? on 07:44 - Jun 20 by SoberBaker |
Nothing has been proved yet. Something fishy going on here.
Sounds like the old fella was in a bad way before the van struck.
Where is the footage of white van man shouting that he wants to kill Muslims?
White van man looked hammered in the footage...was it just a coincidental drink drive incident that happens every day (but hardly gets reported)?
Terrorism my arse! |
I wonder if his defence will be that he was guilty of drink driving but not nothing else ? |  | | |
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| British fight back? on 08:21 - Jun 20 with 2727 views | Headmaster |
Who knew Planet Swans was full of terrorist sympathisers? |  | | |
| British fight back? on 08:40 - Jun 20 with 2680 views | yescomeon |
It's diverting resources away from intelligence services and police that they have to monitor right wing nut-jobs in addition to potentially radicalised Muslims. If British Muslims are urged to report to the police anyone who they think has been radicalised for monitoring. Should not we be urged to inform the police of behaving like this man is aledged to before the attack:
"Regulars at the Hollybush pub close to his home told how he became very drunk on Saturday night. One said: “He got chucked out as he was so drunk. He was cursing Muslims and saying he would do some damage.”" [1]
Supposedly his twitter was used to follow and retweet far right accounts [1]. Surely from now on one look at that and they have to be put on some kind of black list. Same for the equivalent for radical islamists. For a start there must be some way the police/intelligence agencies can set up a database which car rental companies can have access to which they can check a customer against before renting them a car.
[1] - https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/jun/19/finsbury-park-attack-suspect-nam |  |
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| British fight back? on 08:46 - Jun 20 with 2665 views | Pegojack |
| British fight back? on 06:34 - Jun 20 by pikeypaul |
The leftie wak@ers will b along in a minute Bryn.
How dare you think the British should not accept what's
been going on it's all our fault after all. |
Has it ever occurred to you that the majority of British people think that all terrorism from whatever quarter is totally unacceptable, that the correct response is not to hit out at other innocent people, but to oppose terrorists of all shades with every means at our disposal?
Nobody thinks that innocent people of any persuasion are 'at fault' as you put it, or at least nobody with a brain. [Post edited 20 Jun 2017 8:47]
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| British fight back? on 09:45 - Jun 20 with 2579 views | dickythorpe |
| British fight back? on 07:47 - Jun 20 by johnlangy |
Should that not be white terrorist Dicky ?
Unsurprisingly the Mail online refers to him as 'white van driver' not white terrorist. What's the difference if you use a white van or a Hyundai Tucson ? They're both acts of terrorism. |
You tell me.
Was he a member of the NF or EDL?
I'll gladly call him a terrorist. | | | |
| British fight back? on 09:49 - Jun 20 with 2568 views | londonlisa2001 |
| British fight back? on 09:45 - Jun 20 by dickythorpe |
You tell me.
Was he a member of the NF or EDL?
I'll gladly call him a terrorist. |
He doesn't need to be a member of anything to be a terrorist. He is a terrorist by his actions.
The reason that the papers can't call him one by the way is because he's alive and subject to a prosecution, therefore they can't give him a label that could influence the court case.
The other cases the terrorist has been killed so the papers can report freely. | | | |
| British fight back? on 09:50 - Jun 20 with 2564 views | sherpajacob |
People can argue whether any of the predictions of project fear are coming true, but the advocates of project hate are getting what they wanted. |  |
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| British fight back? on 09:50 - Jun 20 with 2564 views | LeonWasGod |
| British fight back? on 07:09 - Jun 20 by Batterseajack |
How can it be a justified fight back if the people outside Finsbury Park mosque had nothing to do with recent terrorist events? They were innocent people. There is never a reason for terrorism and justifying it in this way is no different to the Manchester loser using Libya as an excuse to blow up kids.
I think the daily mail and the sun need to start taking responsibility for the rise of the hard right in this country. Jo coxes murder and now this. |
Well said. Whether this would be classed as terrorism or not is open to debate, but as you say reacting in this way is both completely misplaced and makes the guy no better than those involved in the recent events in manchester and London.
The fact people are trying to justify it is quite scarey and sad in equal measure. |  | | |
| British fight back? on 09:54 - Jun 20 with 2544 views | londonlisa2001 |
| British fight back? on 07:44 - Jun 20 by SoberBaker |
Nothing has been proved yet. Something fishy going on here.
Sounds like the old fella was in a bad way before the van struck.
Where is the footage of white van man shouting that he wants to kill Muslims?
White van man looked hammered in the footage...was it just a coincidental drink drive incident that happens every day (but hardly gets reported)?
Terrorism my arse! |
Everyday there are people renting a van in Pontyclun driving to London and deliberately plowing into a bunch of people leaving a Mosque?
Everyday?
Bloody hell - you'd think we'd have heard before now.
You contemptible w****er. | | | |
| British fight back? on 09:54 - Jun 20 with 2543 views | dickythorpe |
| British fight back? on 09:49 - Jun 20 by londonlisa2001 |
He doesn't need to be a member of anything to be a terrorist. He is a terrorist by his actions.
The reason that the papers can't call him one by the way is because he's alive and subject to a prosecution, therefore they can't give him a label that could influence the court case.
The other cases the terrorist has been killed so the papers can report freely. |
Definitions aren't set correctly anymore Lisa and are widely misinterpreted.
The Muslims who were quite rightly angry were adamant that they didn't want to hear he was "mentally ill", he was a "Terrorist" pure and simple.
If we could define so clearly, why waste time in the courts? Just chuck people into jail straight away.
I'm very upset at how angry and hurt people seem. [Post edited 20 Jun 2017 9:57]
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| British fight back? on 09:55 - Jun 20 with 2537 views | Humpty |
| British fight back? on 06:34 - Jun 20 by pikeypaul |
The leftie wak@ers will b along in a minute Bryn.
How dare you think the British should not accept what's
been going on it's all our fault after all. |
I take it you admire what this man has done Paul? Driving a van into a group of people helping an old man who needed medical help?
If it makes me a lefty w*nker to think such actions utterly wrong then yeah, I'm a lefty w*nker. |  | | |
| British fight back? on 09:56 - Jun 20 with 2531 views | sherpajacob |
| British fight back? on 09:50 - Jun 20 by LeonWasGod |
Well said. Whether this would be classed as terrorism or not is open to debate, but as you say reacting in this way is both completely misplaced and makes the guy no better than those involved in the recent events in manchester and London.
The fact people are trying to justify it is quite scarey and sad in equal measure. |
Apologists for terrorism, enemies of the people with blood on their hands. | |
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| British fight back? on 09:57 - Jun 20 with 2529 views | londonlisa2001 |
| British fight back? on 09:50 - Jun 20 by sherpajacob |
People can argue whether any of the predictions of project fear are coming true, but the advocates of project hate are getting what they wanted. |
IS have wanted this to happen from the start. This guy is as much a part of the IS strategy as the Manchester Bomber. | | | |
| British fight back? on 09:59 - Jun 20 with 2518 views | londonlisa2001 |
| British fight back? on 09:54 - Jun 20 by dickythorpe |
Definitions aren't set correctly anymore Lisa and are widely misinterpreted.
The Muslims who were quite rightly angry were adamant that they didn't want to hear he was "mentally ill", he was a "Terrorist" pure and simple.
If we could define so clearly, why waste time in the courts? Just chuck people into jail straight away.
I'm very upset at how angry and hurt people seem. [Post edited 20 Jun 2017 9:57]
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They are all mentally ill. | | | |
| British fight back? on 10:02 - Jun 20 with 2505 views | dickythorpe |
| British fight back? on 09:59 - Jun 20 by londonlisa2001 |
They are all mentally ill. |
Unfortunately yes they are. But how do we hit that point home first? A group of people yesterday didn't want to hear that.
It's a mess, a sorry mess. Very upsetting. | | | |
| British fight back? on 10:10 - Jun 20 with 2466 views | Humpty |
| British fight back? on 09:57 - Jun 20 by londonlisa2001 |
IS have wanted this to happen from the start. This guy is as much a part of the IS strategy as the Manchester Bomber. |
Of course they are. ISIS and lot's of people on here are two sides of the same coin. Both are saying that's it's impossible for muslims to coexist with the West. It's not. Both sides employ hatred as a way to convince others. | | | |
| British fight back? on 10:13 - Jun 20 with 2455 views | Lord_Bony |
| British fight back? on 09:57 - Jun 20 by londonlisa2001 |
IS have wanted this to happen from the start. This guy is as much a part of the IS strategy as the Manchester Bomber. |
Bang on.
ISIS want to see us rip each other apart and live in fear.
With an OP like this one it looks like they will succeed.
Sally Jones ,British ISIS member is threatening and warning of a lot more attacks to come soon in the U.K. ....they are loving it.
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/michael-day/isis-want-to-divide-our-c_b_10139586 |  |
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| British fight back? on 10:13 - Jun 20 with 2452 views | londonlisa2001 |
| British fight back? on 10:02 - Jun 20 by dickythorpe |
Unfortunately yes they are. But how do we hit that point home first? A group of people yesterday didn't want to hear that.
It's a mess, a sorry mess. Very upsetting. |
A much larger group don't want to listen on every other occasion.
The whole point is that these incidents are the same.
The difference is the reaction. No calls for marches are there. No calls for his entire family to be locked up. No accusations against his community of not reporting it.
The reason that Moslems get so angry I'd imagine, is the complete lack of consistency. | | | |
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