| I'll just put this here ... 18:44 - Oct 30 with 9522 views | Uxbridge |
.... as I'm getting a bit fed up. It's a Sunday evening, I've had a great week off and here I am arguing the toss over interpretations of past things which the Trust have held their hands up to, or utterly spurious accusations.
As a Trust, we cannot continue like this. The burden on the officers is untenable. The debate needs to move on to the following:
a) what the Trust is going to do next in terms of the next Supporters Director,
b) what action the Trust is going to take in terms of legal action against the sellers and the buyers
c) what discussions the Trust are going to have in terms of the new owners. Sell or stay? What role should the Trust have.
If there are allegations of past indicretions then of course they need to be addressed, however the above is what is important, for all parties. We are at a critical point in our history and this could all too easily go awry.
The future now has to be the focus. The past? Mistakes were made by good people. Think you could do better? Good. Stand. The Trust needs you. |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 19:47 - Oct 30 with 2348 views | swancity |
| I'll just put this here ... on 18:53 - Oct 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Post of the week. I can't understand the undermining of the Trust at this time. |
I can't quite understand the attempts to undermine the Trust but I can certainly understand why many of our supporters are livid to the point that serious questions are being asked. I do not know any of those involved but looking in from the outside, it's clear that the Trust have rightly been criticised. From many angles. And they seem to have accepted the criticism.
I think they've been swatted to one side almost as an irrelevance by the previous owners who should be ashamed of their devious handling of the sale transaction. Greed has been a factor. But it's seems that the Supporter Director has not been doing his job properly.
Now why are the Trust dallying over their perilous position in terms of the legal action against the previous owners ? And where do they stand with it?
I'm not too sure that the Trust has a future, at least not in its present format. It reminds me of the Territrial Army trying to take on the Russians with Captain Mainwaring and Pike in charge.😂 |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 19:51 - Oct 30 with 2327 views | exiledclaseboy |
| I'll just put this here ... on 19:47 - Oct 30 by swancity |
I can't quite understand the attempts to undermine the Trust but I can certainly understand why many of our supporters are livid to the point that serious questions are being asked. I do not know any of those involved but looking in from the outside, it's clear that the Trust have rightly been criticised. From many angles. And they seem to have accepted the criticism.
I think they've been swatted to one side almost as an irrelevance by the previous owners who should be ashamed of their devious handling of the sale transaction. Greed has been a factor. But it's seems that the Supporter Director has not been doing his job properly.
Now why are the Trust dallying over their perilous position in terms of the legal action against the previous owners ? And where do they stand with it?
I'm not too sure that the Trust has a future, at least not in its present format. It reminds me of the Territrial Army trying to take on the Russians with Captain Mainwaring and Pike in charge.😂 |
Completely agree that the Trust has received and taken much valid criticism this week, much if it from me. |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:03 - Oct 30 with 2262 views | Uxbridge |
| I'll just put this here ... on 19:51 - Oct 30 by exiledclaseboy |
Completely agree that the Trust has received and taken much valid criticism this week, much if it from me. |
And clearly the Trust needs to get back the members' trust.
Any ideas on that score welcome. Because, beyond what has already been done, it's difficult to know what else could be done. Apart from build a time machine of course. | |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:08 - Oct 30 with 2227 views | swancity |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:03 - Oct 30 by Uxbridge |
And clearly the Trust needs to get back the members' trust.
Any ideas on that score welcome. Because, beyond what has already been done, it's difficult to know what else could be done. Apart from build a time machine of course. |
I'm not sure if it's retrievable. Too much water has gone under the bridge. the Trust may well be history. I'm not concerned by that either way. A new organisation completely with new blood may be needed. | |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:10 - Oct 30 with 2206 views | 3swan |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:03 - Oct 30 by Uxbridge |
And clearly the Trust needs to get back the members' trust.
Any ideas on that score welcome. Because, beyond what has already been done, it's difficult to know what else could be done. Apart from build a time machine of course. |
Well simplistically I would guess that the Trust Board is answerable to its members, and if there hasn’t been a call of no confidence then you carry on with your stated aims.
Given time your (the Trust) actions will either gain the trust or not of the members | | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:13 - Oct 30 with 2179 views | Uxbridge |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:10 - Oct 30 by 3swan |
Well simplistically I would guess that the Trust Board is answerable to its members, and if there hasn’t been a call of no confidence then you carry on with your stated aims.
Given time your (the Trust) actions will either gain the trust or not of the members |
There'll be an AGM in the coming weeks.
Aye, time I guess. | |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:18 - Oct 30 with 2144 views | Smellyplumz |
| I'll just put this here ... on 19:30 - Oct 30 by Phil_S |
I'll happily back that up but I need to know who you are first - drop me a PM and let me know and then I will confirm on here
Sorry if that feels cloak and dagger but I have no idea who is who on here any more |
Pm sent |  |
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""Although I cannot promise or predict the future, I can guarantee one thing - the current board of directors will always fight, as we have done over the last 12 years, to work together as one with the Supporters Trust to make 100% sure that Swansea City football club remains the number one priority in all our thoughts and in every decision we make." | | Poll: | Huw Jenkins |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:28 - Oct 30 with 2076 views | Phil_S |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:18 - Oct 30 by Smellyplumz |
Pm sent |
Thank you and backed up as promised
Edited as it read like a perch reply
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:31 - Oct 30 with 2057 views | waynekerr55 |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:08 - Oct 30 by swancity |
I'm not sure if it's retrievable. Too much water has gone under the bridge. the Trust may well be history. I'm not concerned by that either way. A new organisation completely with new blood may be needed. |
So how would the 'newco' trust acquire the 'oldco' shares then?
Not.
Going.
To.
Happen.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:36 - Oct 30 with 2024 views | swancity |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:31 - Oct 30 by waynekerr55 |
So how would the 'newco' trust acquire the 'oldco' shares then?
Not.
Going.
To.
Happen.
Let's not throw the baby out with the bath water. |
Not sure if it could?
But I think they've pissed on their chips. | |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:37 - Oct 30 with 2008 views | airedale |
How would SCFC benefit from the Trust taking legal action against past and present shareholders? |  | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:42 - Oct 30 with 1978 views | icecoldjack |
| I'll just put this here ... on 19:47 - Oct 30 by swancity |
I can't quite understand the attempts to undermine the Trust but I can certainly understand why many of our supporters are livid to the point that serious questions are being asked. I do not know any of those involved but looking in from the outside, it's clear that the Trust have rightly been criticised. From many angles. And they seem to have accepted the criticism.
I think they've been swatted to one side almost as an irrelevance by the previous owners who should be ashamed of their devious handling of the sale transaction. Greed has been a factor. But it's seems that the Supporter Director has not been doing his job properly.
Now why are the Trust dallying over their perilous position in terms of the legal action against the previous owners ? And where do they stand with it?
I'm not too sure that the Trust has a future, at least not in its present format. It reminds me of the Territrial Army trying to take on the Russians with Captain Mainwaring and Pike in charge.😂 |
Great post . |  | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:47 - Oct 30 with 1937 views | barry_island |
and Swancity is? | |
| Swansea City, THE Austerity Club. |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:52 - Oct 30 with 1791 views | ymaohyd |
I'd liken the current state of the club to a round of golf by a high handicapper. You might luck out on a few holes, but over 18, the unforgiven sport that it is, brings you down to your knees.
Given the background of the people who used to run the club and may be still involved in its running, I could never quite believe the success that we achieved. A great piece of luck or brilliant planning? The trust must also be included in this analogy, guilty of complacency, deceit? Personally I'd go for the former.
Whatever, those chickens are coming home to roost now and we're on the 18th . Some, good decisions a lot of lucking out. Relegation probably beckons , personally i'm not too bothered about that, but it will be very interesting to see what our new owners do if what looks like the inevitable happens? |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:54 - Oct 30 with 1780 views | Witneyjack |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:17 - Oct 30 by barry_island |
Sometimes Game of Thrones is easier to follow than this forum.
Who is Swancity?
Who is Millie?
Who is Dougie?
Who is Xmastree?
Who is BigPhilG?
Who is T2C's source? |
T2c's source? I would guess the person he met up with a couple of years ago and swapped mobile numbers with. The same person who was one of those who recently cashed in on our success. It's not rocket science to work out that by feeding him snippets of info it deflects away from criticism of him and the other shareholders. |  | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:55 - Oct 30 with 1763 views | Jackfath |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:47 - Oct 30 by barry_island |
and Swancity is? |
Murph |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 20:59 - Oct 30 with 1729 views | Dewi1jack |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:37 - Oct 30 by airedale |
How would SCFC benefit from the Trust taking legal action against past and present shareholders? |
Can't see any benefit on taking the new shareholders on.
The Trust needs to try and get a working relationship with them.
So I can't see any benefit in that to SCFC, the Trust or the new shareholders.
The EX shareholders, if they have broken regulations and the Trust can make some money off them, should have the bollox sued off them- nothing to lose for the Trust there.
Just shouldn't drag on too long.
Sue them or give a statement to say why not.
Total transparency and explanations on why major decisions by the Trust, have been taken.
Less of the use of "commercially sensitive info" get out clause.
It's like call centres/ whoever saying " can't tell you.Data Protection Act" but panicking when you challenge them with the said act and its contents
Going to take the (mostly excellent) volunteers a bit of time to type and press send to all Trust members as an EMail, but will lead to rebuilding our trust in the Trust.
Non-members may just get p1ssed off reading the statements second hand and throw their tenner in as well. Happy days- Win win
We need to be united from here on in.
Certainly as a fan base. Preferably behind the Trust as well.
Certainly for the next few weeks at least.
Give the Colonials and the Trust 3 or 4 weeks to start putting the club and themselves to rights.
The past started 1 minute ago.
The Trust need to use their past mistakes and learn from them for the present and the future.
As they appear to be doing
Edit.
Excellent OP and as much notice of an AGM as possible, so I and others can arrange to take the time off/ get cover in.
Much appreciated. [Post edited 30 Oct 2016 21:01]
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| I'll just put this here ... on 21:08 - Oct 30 with 1695 views | BigPhilG |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:17 - Oct 30 by barry_island |
Sometimes Game of Thrones is easier to follow than this forum.
Who is Swancity?
Who is Millie?
Who is Dougie?
Who is Xmastree?
Who is BigPhilG?
Who is T2C's source? |
By all accounts Millie is Huw Cooze.
Swancity, Dougie,xmastree and I are all Darran, or it could be Jackfath I'm not sure |  | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 21:10 - Oct 30 with 1682 views | Darran |
| I'll just put this here ... on 21:08 - Oct 30 by BigPhilG |
By all accounts Millie is Huw Cooze.
Swancity, Dougie,xmastree and I are all Darran, or it could be Jackfath I'm not sure |
I'm Darran. (I think) |  |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 21:12 - Oct 30 with 1670 views | jacksfullaces |
in short, power corrupts
however, everyone at the bottom of the power struggle fighting over the rights and wrongs of the last few years allow the clowns at the top to get away scott free.
ironically holding the powers that be to account and being impartial and objective would be the main criticism to be levelled at the trust.
so lets continue not doing that and fight amongst ourselves then is it?
Sad times | | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 21:17 - Oct 30 with 1634 views | waynekerr55 |
| I'll just put this here ... on 20:36 - Oct 30 by swancity |
Not sure if it could?
But I think they've pissed on their chips. |
Well we have a number of options:
Wind the trust up and let Mr Creosote and the rest laugh at us
En masse new blood to join the trust
Get behind the trust
We have to unite! | |
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| I'll just put this here ... on 21:19 - Oct 30 with 1621 views | BigPhilG |
| I'll just put this here ... on 21:10 - Oct 30 by Darran |
I'm Darran. (I think) |
I'm not sure about that | | | |
| I'll just put this here ... on 21:23 - Oct 30 with 1595 views | Watchman |
Naive people are being used and their egos are enjoying it and in time to come, they'll look back and not think too good of themselves. |  |
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