| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? 09:37 - Apr 26 with 7904 views | Richythejack |
Well yet again we were let down by our side and in particular Ash Williams. Saying this that doesn't give us a reason not to get behind the team and play our part. I was at the game on the weekend and I regularly travel to watch the Swans but the fans are slowly getting less and less passionate. The expectation that we are better than we actually are seems to be the chip on many of the fans shoulders. I am not sure that it is the increase of new fans but if that's the case we still have a hardcore following of away supporters and you lot should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves. People seem to forget that the whole successful Swansea era was built on passion and determination. We never had world beaters in our team but everyone played for each other and gave 110%. This includes the fans creating the atmosphere which made the Liberty a fortress and the praise we had for our fantastic support from numerous away fans. Our Promotion season and the first season we went up is really the last time we actually stood as one of the best supporters in the football leagues, each season from there is has got progressively worse. Yes, I understand the team are not performing and we have seriously been a victim of the riches of the prem league by bringing in journey men looking for a pay day with no balls, or mental steel but come on!!! Leicester fans were exceptional and not once did we really give them some banter back or just have a laugh, Jesus why even bother going to the game? Honestly though Swansea Fans we give the whole story of the Swansea way disappearing etc, have a serious look at yourselves and get behind the team. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 09:55 - Apr 26 with 5954 views | dickythorpe |
I come from an era that was only 4 when we got to Div One, my earliest memories are of a club that was about to go bust, they were desperate times circa 1985.
What annoys me now is that I believe that some players, some fans and pundits alike think the PL isnt all that, just make sure you are 12 -14th around Feb and you should be ok.
That's a lack of pride and ambition especially with the wages the pro footballers are on and the money we as fans fork out.
In all it's been a very frustrating season as I think clearly we have underachieved and have been let down by many of the squad, some havent given 100% that is for sure.
I mentioned about a month ago, we didint realise in 2013 how good we were, maybe we still think we are as good or thought we would improve to top 6 standard. [Post edited 26 Apr 2016 9:59]
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 10:01 - Apr 26 with 5942 views | Darran |
A very frustrating season especially for all the plastic c*nts that have never known a frustrating season. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 10:13 - Apr 26 with 5925 views | hammy |
I like this, a grumpy old buggers thread ;)
We've just got to take into account that this is the age of entitlement. For anyone under the age of 25 it seems that the world just owes them everything, so why do they have to put anything in ... entertain me for feck's sake !
I'm on your side BTW ... |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 10:41 - Apr 26 with 5877 views | Pegojack |
I have some sympathy with the OP's view, but I was there on Sunday and, frankly, what was there to get excited about? I sat there with a stoney face and arms folded throughout.
We are safe to all intents and purposes. So why did Guidolin play such a negative line up? If you want enthusiasm, give us something to enthuse about!
If we'd have gone all out at Leicester and lost, I would have stood up and applauded the Swans. He should have played a front three of Barrow, Paloschi and Montero from the start, give 'em something to think about.
As it was, we gifted them the game, so much so that I was embarrassed and ashamed to be indentified as a Jack on the way back to the car, and a Swans fan phoned 606 on the radio to say he thought we'd thrown the game, he'd never seen a Swans team roll over like that before. That's what's happened to the passionate Jack army. |  | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 10:51 - Apr 26 with 5853 views | Richythejack |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 10:41 - Apr 26 by Pegojack |
I have some sympathy with the OP's view, but I was there on Sunday and, frankly, what was there to get excited about? I sat there with a stoney face and arms folded throughout.
We are safe to all intents and purposes. So why did Guidolin play such a negative line up? If you want enthusiasm, give us something to enthuse about!
If we'd have gone all out at Leicester and lost, I would have stood up and applauded the Swans. He should have played a front three of Barrow, Paloschi and Montero from the start, give 'em something to think about.
As it was, we gifted them the game, so much so that I was embarrassed and ashamed to be indentified as a Jack on the way back to the car, and a Swans fan phoned 606 on the radio to say he thought we'd thrown the game, he'd never seen a Swans team roll over like that before. That's what's happened to the passionate Jack army. |
I do agree with some of your points but not even from the off did we really get behind the team. We all have views on who should start etc but when Paloschi and Montero came on they did really add anything.
End of the day you can slate the players but rather than stood there with your arms folded get behind the lads | |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:07 - Apr 26 with 5817 views | fbreath |
It's a business now and we are just customers. When it's good we engage with the team when it's bad we get grumpy.
Blame the product not the customers. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:31 - Apr 26 with 5780 views | JethroJack |
Agree with the OP.
Football fans have always been a fickle bunch, but perspective has been totally lost by many since players have been paid astronomical money for kicking a ball around. When individual players and/or the whole team don't perform, fans' tolerance level is much lower than it used to be in the past. It seems that many think that players go out to deliberately play badly or can't be arsed, which is (mostly) a load of bollox. The attitude seems to be...you're paid stupid money, so you're not allowed to have an off day, so I'm entitled to slag you off.
Fickle as phuck....and no perspective....see SHITE 😜 [Post edited 26 Apr 2016 11:35]
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:35 - Apr 26 with 5759 views | Loyal |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:31 - Apr 26 by JethroJack |
Agree with the OP.
Football fans have always been a fickle bunch, but perspective has been totally lost by many since players have been paid astronomical money for kicking a ball around. When individual players and/or the whole team don't perform, fans' tolerance level is much lower than it used to be in the past. It seems that many think that players go out to deliberately play badly or can't be arsed, which is (mostly) a load of bollox. The attitude seems to be...you're paid stupid money, so you're not allowed to have an off day, so I'm entitled to slag you off.
Fickle as phuck....and no perspective....see SHITE 😜 [Post edited 26 Apr 2016 11:35]
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Collymore revealed yesterday he didn't perform at times because he couldn't be bothered, as did many team mates. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:40 - Apr 26 with 5745 views | 3swan |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:31 - Apr 26 by JethroJack |
Agree with the OP.
Football fans have always been a fickle bunch, but perspective has been totally lost by many since players have been paid astronomical money for kicking a ball around. When individual players and/or the whole team don't perform, fans' tolerance level is much lower than it used to be in the past. It seems that many think that players go out to deliberately play badly or can't be arsed, which is (mostly) a load of bollox. The attitude seems to be...you're paid stupid money, so you're not allowed to have an off day, so I'm entitled to slag you off.
Fickle as phuck....and no perspective....see SHITE 😜 [Post edited 26 Apr 2016 11:35]
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Of course players can have an off day, it's human nature. The problem is that collectively the team has had many off days this season | | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:40 - Apr 26 with 5741 views | Jonoscfc1 |
I was also there Sunday unfortunately and wasn't surprised by the lack off passion and noise from the travelling Jacks considering half our allocation were Leicester fans. | | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:59 - Apr 26 with 5696 views | eddie71 |
Leicester fans were exceptional because they have an exceptional team. They have a team that I wish my team were. Fans are not mugs they know shite when they see it and its unrealistic to expect them to clap like performing seals when they have dross presented to them. Look at Villa fans or Newcastle fans up until a month ago. Fans react lie that because they are passionate and they care.
This idea that fans in the old days didn't react like that is frankly pathetic. And anyone who believes that either wasn't there or has a "selective" memory. | | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:01 - Apr 26 with 5695 views | JethroJack |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:35 - Apr 26 by Loyal |
Collymore revealed yesterday he didn't perform at times because he couldn't be bothered, as did many team mates. |
Does that surprise you then, considering its Collymore? | | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:06 - Apr 26 with 5676 views | builthjack |
Most of the season the away support has been superb. Noisy and passionate.
On Sunday it was poor. Just like the team performance. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:06 - Apr 26 with 5673 views | JethroJack |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:40 - Apr 26 by 3swan |
Of course players can have an off day, it's human nature. The problem is that collectively the team has had many off days this season |
Agreed, I'm not saying otherwise.
But some of the extreme negative reaction still isn't warranted.
It makes you wonder if Leicester "fans" complained as much last season right up to the point where they started to win games. | | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:14 - Apr 26 with 5643 views | Loyal |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:01 - Apr 26 by JethroJack |
Does that surprise you then, considering its Collymore? |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:15 - Apr 26 with 5637 views | Loyal |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 12:06 - Apr 26 by builthjack |
Most of the season the away support has been superb. Noisy and passionate.
On Sunday it was poor. Just like the team performance. |
Away support has been magnificent most of the time, travelling in big numbers and very noisy. | |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 14:25 - Apr 26 with 5472 views | DafyddHuw |
To the OP
"...made the Liberty a fortress...."
The Vetch was a fortress. The Lib's never, ever been a fortress. It's awful for atmosphere, just a lump of souless concrete. |  | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 15:28 - Apr 26 with 5345 views | Richythejack |
Think you have missed the point. In terms of the Liberty being a fortress we had a very good home record in our first season in the prem and the atmosphere was fantastic.
Honestly some of the comments I don't know why you bother supporting the jacks. Surely win or lose you should be behind the team. Granted we are playing some terrible football but if your support is not there just stay at home.
In recent times like I said its gone quieter every season, even when we were losing we would be singing our hearts out!! turning out like the fickle national team fans and only having one chant!! totally embarrassment for fans | |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 15:51 - Apr 26 with 5307 views | jojaca |
It's hard to be passionate this season when the football has been a few levels below poor to watch. We have been slow, pedestrian, wing less, no real urgency, no purpose or direction, lack of pace and energy. The complete opposite of Leicester. I bet we have lost a decent percentage of our fan base this season, just on our boring football. When you are paying £35-£45 a ticket per game, you want to be entertained. |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 16:43 - Apr 26 with 5249 views | raynor94 |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 15:51 - Apr 26 by jojaca |
It's hard to be passionate this season when the football has been a few levels below poor to watch. We have been slow, pedestrian, wing less, no real urgency, no purpose or direction, lack of pace and energy. The complete opposite of Leicester. I bet we have lost a decent percentage of our fan base this season, just on our boring football. When you are paying £35-£45 a ticket per game, you want to be entertained. |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 18:48 - Apr 26 with 5149 views | Flashberryjack |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:07 - Apr 26 by fbreath |
It's a business now and we are just customers. When it's good we engage with the team when it's bad we get grumpy.
Blame the product not the customers. |
"It's a business now and we are just customers"
Never has that been so highlighted when they turned the LED advertising boards to face the fans, for a few extra shillings.
A disgraceful show of disrespect to the fans......but hey!! who gives a f*ck, other than the ones it affects eh ? |  |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 18:55 - Apr 26 with 5126 views | epaul |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:40 - Apr 26 by Jonoscfc1 |
I was also there Sunday unfortunately and wasn't surprised by the lack off passion and noise from the travelling Jacks considering half our allocation were Leicester fans. |
As I walked in the ground I saw Leicester sports with scarfs on in our end, I approached a steward nd told him they were in the away end and he said he could do nothing about it! And blamed Swansea for selling tickets to them, I said how can you do that when they are bought online, he didn't answer, I said to him well if something happens to them on his head be it.
I think they escorted some out after the 2nd went in |  |
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The b*stards are coming back though |
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| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 21:53 - Apr 26 with 4958 views | blaine_scfc |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 18:55 - Apr 26 by epaul |
As I walked in the ground I saw Leicester sports with scarfs on in our end, I approached a steward nd told him they were in the away end and he said he could do nothing about it! And blamed Swansea for selling tickets to them, I said how can you do that when they are bought online, he didn't answer, I said to him well if something happens to them on his head be it.
I think they escorted some out after the 2nd went in |
Spoke to the head steward there at half time, was a bit sh*tty with him to be honest. His reply was "we are trying our best your ticket office have sold to anybody". How are our ticket office sending away tickets to fans willy nilly, to what I assume would be Leicester postcodes or thereabouts. It's a shambles to be honest.
There was hell of a lot in there, atmosphere was poor in our end but the noise from the Leicester fans was very impressive to be honest, the way our players rolled over there was literally nothing to sing about.
My first away game was Rushden and Diamonds a few seasons before the great escape if I remember correctly, 4-0 down doing the conga in the away end. Times have changed. |  | | |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 04:07 - Apr 27 with 4864 views | BanosPerth |
| What has happened to the passionate jack army?? on 11:07 - Apr 26 by fbreath |
It's a business now and we are just customers. When it's good we engage with the team when it's bad we get grumpy.
Blame the product not the customers. |
Yes, absolutely spot on. It's just a business now, that happens to involve sport as its medium.
As another example, I read just the other day that the big banks down here (OZ) no longer treat us like people, or even customers, we are just 'economic functionaries' in their eyes - entities walking around on two legs just waiting to be exploited to the max for more shekels. | | | |
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