| Gomis 17:16 - Apr 4 with 8256 views | deanscfc |
Bony wouldn't have scored that first one. Great game from him today! |  | | |  |
| Gomis on 00:55 - Apr 5 with 1737 views | jedijack |
| Gomis on 00:21 - Apr 5 by dgt73 |
Fook another person who doesn't know what he's talking about.  |
Page 108 of the official rules suggest you've no clue:
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06
The difference between deliberate and deflected is crucial here. How stupid would the game be if you could leave a striker on the edge of the 18 yard box and attempt through balls off a defenders legs as happens with throw in deflections?
I'm still trying to comprehend why I needed to find proof of you being wrong, will take is as a given from now on regardless of the subject. | | | |
| Gomis on 07:13 - Apr 5 with 1654 views | dgt73 |
| Gomis on 00:55 - Apr 5 by jedijack |
Page 108 of the official rules suggest you've no clue:
http://www.fifa.com/mm/document/footballdevelopment/refereeing/02/36/01/11/27_06
The difference between deliberate and deflected is crucial here. How stupid would the game be if you could leave a striker on the edge of the 18 yard box and attempt through balls off a defenders legs as happens with throw in deflections?
I'm still trying to comprehend why I needed to find proof of you being wrong, will take is as a given from now on regardless of the subject. |
Did the hull defender head the ball deliberately to Gomis......ur....of course not......was it a perfectly legal goal.......ur......yes it was. |  |
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| Gomis on 07:26 - Apr 5 with 1645 views | jack247 |
Was he offside when he scored? No. The ball came off a Hull defender. Was he offside a couple of seconds before that when one of our players (Cork?) headed back into the box? Yes, by about 5 yards. The ref/Lino have either not noticed him, or incorrectly deemed he was not in a position to influence play.
Either way, we bitch and moan like hell when a dodgy decision goes against us, let's just enjoy it when one goes in our favour. | | | |
| Gomis on 07:54 - Apr 5 with 1630 views | SkipTheJack |
It seems the consensus opinion is that 'intent' to play the ball by the defender is crucial in this case. I must admit that despite reading all the arguments on here I still believe it was offside.
As I said earlier, if Ki had been offside when Jonjo shot then the first goal would have been disallowed. It wouldn't have mattered a jot that Ki wasn't interfering with play until the ball came back off McGregor (which he wasn't), or that McGregor had intended to play the ball (which he did).
I'm sure one of the ex-referees will be writing about it in their newspaper columns. It will be interesting to see what they say. |  | | |
| Gomis on 09:54 - Apr 5 with 1581 views | Morfa_Same |
The offside rule from the FA website:
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:
interfering with play or
interfering with an opponent or
gaining an advantage by being in that position
The fact that the ball was touched by the defender or it was a 'different passage of play' makes no difference at all. Some people on here are overcomplicating the rules. All that matters is whether Gomis was gaining an advantage by being where he was when the ball was headed forward. For me he was offside. |  | | |
| Gomis on 10:04 - Apr 5 with 1559 views | ItchySphincter |
| Gomis on 09:54 - Apr 5 by Morfa_Same |
The offside rule from the FA website:
A player in an offside position is only penalised if, at the moment the ball touches or is played by one of his team, he is, in the opinion of the referee, involved in active play by:
interfering with play or
interfering with an opponent or
gaining an advantage by being in that position
The fact that the ball was touched by the defender or it was a 'different passage of play' makes no difference at all. Some people on here are overcomplicating the rules. All that matters is whether Gomis was gaining an advantage by being where he was when the ball was headed forward. For me he was offside. |
Over complicated or over simplified? This is a cut and paste from the FIFA laws:
- “gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball
i. that rebounds or is deflected to him off the goalpost, crossbar or an
opponent having been in an offside position
ii. that rebounds, is deflected or is played to him from a deliberate save
by an opponent having been in an offside position
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent, who
deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save), is not considered
to have gained an advantage.
There is a very clear distinction between gaining an advantage from a deliberate attempt to play a ball and gaining an advantage as a consequence of a deflection.
It's simple really, even dgt73 should be able to grasp it. |  |
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| Gomis on 10:11 - Apr 5 with 1541 views | dgt73 |
| Gomis on 10:04 - Apr 5 by ItchySphincter |
Over complicated or over simplified? This is a cut and paste from the FIFA laws:
- “gaining an advantage by being in that position” means playing a ball
i. that rebounds or is deflected to him off the goalpost, crossbar or an
opponent having been in an offside position
ii. that rebounds, is deflected or is played to him from a deliberate save
by an opponent having been in an offside position
A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent, who
deliberately plays the ball (except from a deliberate save), is not considered
to have gained an advantage.
There is a very clear distinction between gaining an advantage from a deliberate attempt to play a ball and gaining an advantage as a consequence of a deflection.
It's simple really, even dgt73 should be able to grasp it. |
Well the refs have a different interpretation of that law and that's probably because they have been instructed to view it in that way. | |
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| Gomis on 10:21 - Apr 5 with 1525 views | Ptpeaty |
Excellent performance from Gomis. Put in a fine shift throughout the whole game. Defensively he is good too. Great to see his confidence rising and the goals starting to come now as that can only be good for us and him. | | | |
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| Gomis on 11:03 - Apr 5 with 1485 views | JonTheJack |
It's been clear for the majority of the games he's started in that he is obviously capable; he just wasn't scoring. The specimens were then quick to get on his back because he wasn't Wilf or didn't needlessly chase lost causes.
Hopefully he keeps this up, can only be good for us. |  | | |
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