| Matt Done scores again 21:19 - Feb 17 with 14857 views | SuddenLad |
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| Matt Done scores again on 22:44 - Feb 17 with 2222 views | roccydaleian |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:36 - Feb 17 by KenBoon |
You can. It is called a contract of employment. If players - and agents - have the benefit of sitting out contracts then Clubs should have the same. Morally do you stand in the way of someone getting such a large wage rise? Probably not. But we're a business and this should have waited until the Summer. |
And say then, Done loose's form or gets a bad injury, i know it's all if's and but's, but what's done is done, just get on with the rest of the season and see what pans out. |  | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:45 - Feb 17 with 2217 views | G_Dale |
It would be a different story if he wasn't bagging every game and winning, and we weren't doing shit and losing them all. Just need 3 points to stop the rot |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 22:58 - Feb 17 with 2175 views | KenBoon |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:42 - Feb 17 by D_Alien |
I can't believe the same old tired arguments are being regurgitated as to why the club shouldn't have sold Done.
Either you get the principle of bringing in players to improve them and allow them to move on when they receive an offer that's too good for them - not the club - to turn down, or you don't.
Refuse players permission to leave and the players with ambition will stop coming here. |
There's a limit though. Selling him at the end of the season still ticks the boxes of being a club that improves and sells. If you sell at the drop of a hat then you get taken advantage of. It may also make the club look unambitious, which will hardly attract players. |  | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:00 - Feb 17 with 2161 views | dingdangblue |
| Matt Done scores again on 21:42 - Feb 17 by 442Dale |
I hope Done gets a hat-trick next week if we get four. |
The 1st may happen. The 2nd wont.We will lose to Sheff Utd next Tues I'm afraid. Matt Done will score. Deep down we all know this will happen. |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:08 - Feb 17 with 2138 views | D_Alien |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:58 - Feb 17 by KenBoon |
There's a limit though. Selling him at the end of the season still ticks the boxes of being a club that improves and sells. If you sell at the drop of a hat then you get taken advantage of. It may also make the club look unambitious, which will hardly attract players. |
Hardly a drop of a hat, though?
Only a few days before the sale went through, KH was keen to emphasise that no players would be leaving but when it happened, he was quite magnanimous about it, understanding that it was a chance that might not come Done's way again. All this "end of season" stuff is just wishful thinking.
KH himself - the manager who used to implode when we sold players such as Murray and ALF - can see the logic and take the longer-term view.
That's why it's no drop of a hat, because that implies lack of planning and vision. For the first time in our history, that's exactly what we've got. If it makes a few fans disgruntled in the short-term, that's their lookout. |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:23 - Feb 17 with 2099 views | Yorkshire_Dale |
Don't forget guys.......we also got money for Done when he was sold to Barnsley,along with Scott Wiseman........so in effect we have drawn twice for the boy!
Now,let's leave it......it's been Done to death! | | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:25 - Feb 17 with 2092 views | TVOS1907 |
| Matt Done scores again on 21:45 - Feb 17 by D_Alien |
Do they have a closet instead of a dressing room? |
I'll find out for you. |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:28 - Feb 17 with 2083 views | TVOS1907 |
| Matt Done scores again on 21:56 - Feb 17 by 442Dale |
Did Adam Le Fondre let himself down by joining a divisional rival even though his sale was necessary at the time? |
And Peter Costello back in 1991. | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:30 - Feb 17 with 2077 views | D_Alien |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:25 - Feb 17 by TVOS1907 |
I'll find out for you. |
Somewhere to put their undies, clothes?
I'll get my coat... | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:33 - Feb 17 with 2065 views | TVOS1907 |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:36 - Feb 17 by KenBoon |
You can. It is called a contract of employment. If players - and agents - have the benefit of sitting out contracts then Clubs should have the same. Morally do you stand in the way of someone getting such a large wage rise? Probably not. But we're a business and this should have waited until the Summer. |
Maybe that contract of employment had a clause that said he could talk to other clubs if certain conditions were met.
I'm sure that's been the case with some of our other sales in recent years. | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:35 - Feb 17 with 2057 views | TVOS1907 |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:30 - Feb 17 by D_Alien |
Somewhere to put their undies, clothes?
I'll get my coat... |
From the closet? | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 23:39 - Feb 17 with 2044 views | D_Alien |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:35 - Feb 17 by TVOS1907 |
From the closet? |
I'm afraid that will have to remain undisclosed | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 00:35 - Feb 18 with 1979 views | mikehunt |
And you can forget sell on fees. If the Blades go up and he is still banging them in, why would they want to sell one of their top strikers? Unless they offloaded him to the Wendies for a pound down and a penny a week, to help them in their promotion push. |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 00:56 - Feb 18 with 1954 views | BlueMessiah |
| Matt Done scores again on 23:08 - Feb 17 by D_Alien |
Hardly a drop of a hat, though?
Only a few days before the sale went through, KH was keen to emphasise that no players would be leaving but when it happened, he was quite magnanimous about it, understanding that it was a chance that might not come Done's way again. All this "end of season" stuff is just wishful thinking.
KH himself - the manager who used to implode when we sold players such as Murray and ALF - can see the logic and take the longer-term view.
That's why it's no drop of a hat, because that implies lack of planning and vision. For the first time in our history, that's exactly what we've got. If it makes a few fans disgruntled in the short-term, that's their lookout. |
Ah! So THAT'S why Hill's been so openly encouraging of our best players being sold to better themselves. I thought it may have something to do with him personally trousering over £100k in the last 8 months as a result. I really should stop being so cynical. |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 03:54 - Feb 18 with 1895 views | Bazzanne |
I am heartily sick to death with this topic. I'ts happened, build a bridge and get over it. If you don't you will keep on feeling as you do now, because it sure as hell will happen again. | | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 03:56 - Feb 18 with 1895 views | davidab2202 |
Whilst seeing both sides of the argument,as a thought on how far our club has come in recent years I can remember a time when fans would be because of the quality of player we had at the club hoping and praying that someone would come in and take a player off your hands because they were to a man pretty c**p in comparison to the current squad | | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 07:21 - Feb 18 with 1838 views | dingdangblue |
At least we'll have a new song to sing next Tues
"Done, Done will tear us apart ,for them"
"Done, Done will tear us apart, for them" | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 07:25 - Feb 18 with 1836 views | SuddenLad |
| Matt Done scores again on 00:56 - Feb 18 by BlueMessiah |
Ah! So THAT'S why Hill's been so openly encouraging of our best players being sold to better themselves. I thought it may have something to do with him personally trousering over £100k in the last 8 months as a result. I really should stop being so cynical. |
Whether he gets 0.1% of the deal or all the lot, it is never solely Keith Hill's decision to sell a player, so the cynicism is wasted.
Whether we care to admit it or not, Matt Done has bettered himself both professionally and financially by moving to Bramall Lane.
He's moved on and so should we. | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 08:08 - Feb 18 with 1775 views | zxcvbnm |
Hill doesn't make too many PR blunders but his soundbite saying we don't have to sell and won't hasn't helped matters |  |
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| Matt Done scores again on 08:35 - Feb 18 with 1730 views | dingdangblue |
| Matt Done scores again on 08:08 - Feb 18 by zxcvbnm |
Hill doesn't make too many PR blunders but his soundbite saying we don't have to sell and won't hasn't helped matters |
"business as usual" | |
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| Matt Done scores again on 09:30 - Feb 18 with 1662 views | ColDale |
I'd be very surprised if Matt Done plays next week against us |  | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:36 - Feb 18 with 1647 views | lurker |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:30 - Feb 18 by ColDale |
I'd be very surprised if Matt Done plays next week against us |
I wouldn't. He is in scorching form and any "gentleman's agreement" will be negated by Nigel Clough being a prize nob! Unless such an agreement was made at a higher level I can't see any way he won't line up against us |  | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:37 - Feb 18 with 1644 views | dingdangblue |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:30 - Feb 18 by ColDale |
I'd be very surprised if Matt Done plays next week against us |
Why? Alf did, Lambert did and both scored goals to help beat us. They are going for promotion and he's just won them their last 2 games. [Post edited 18 Feb 2015 10:01]
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| Matt Done scores again on 09:39 - Feb 18 with 1641 views | ColDale |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:37 - Feb 18 by dingdangblue |
Why? Alf did, Lambert did and both scored goals to help beat us. They are going for promotion and he's just won them their last 2 games. [Post edited 18 Feb 2015 10:01]
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Tutte never played last season against us. (not that we'd be particularly worried about him). I know that was a Hill and Flicker thing, but gut feeling says that Clough will honour the same agreement with Hill. Could be wrong. | | | |
| Matt Done scores again on 09:45 - Feb 18 with 1629 views | ParkinsGimp |
| Matt Done scores again on 22:10 - Feb 17 by YouTubeDale |
I am sick to death already of that figure £450k being spouted about. I agree 442, that unless someone can prove it then it is meaningless, yet it seems to be "gospel". If it was that figure then I am sure most would agree it was too low in the circumstances when we didn't have to sell and we needed him for our pop at the Championship. If it was agreed to keep it "undisclosed" then we can't really say any more, but it leaves many frustrated. But in principle the club should reveal the guaranteed sum. We know there are add-ons to that sum which then makes it an "undisclosed" fee ie. one you can't say what the final figure will be. If the guaranteed fee is "low" in most peoples eyes ,being very subjective, then the club would want to keep shut.
I just wish the club would reveal all so that we can make our own minds up, hopefully making us feel a little better, but it won't happen. |
You can be as sick as you want pal, but I bet its around that figure and not the stupid astonomical figures that some deluded mongs ascertain too!
We gave this player away......and had no contingency to cover his release. | | | |
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