| QPR Accounts... on 14:07 - Mar 6 with 2760 views | SpiritofGregory |
| QPR Accounts... on 10:42 - Mar 6 by paulparker |
177 million in debt !
Total mismanagement !
No, no,no not having it !!
Everybody on this MB tells me saint Tony is the
Best thing to ever happen to rangers
He is the best ever chairman it can't be true |
Time to reinstall Amit as chairman. |  | |  |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:08 - Mar 6 with 2753 views | Nov77 |
Personally I wouldn't mind making do with what we've got, living within our means , spending more time in the championship, STAYING where we are, OUR home, and getting a manager like Gigi in again that gets the best out of players and knows how to entertain the fans. |  |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:12 - Mar 6 with 2738 views | daveB |
isn't it the financial accounts of this year rather than last year which relate to the potential fine? I'm not sure how the football league can fine a club for something they did in the Premier League |  | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:13 - Mar 6 with 2730 views | SpiritofGregory |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:08 - Mar 6 by Nov77 |
Personally I wouldn't mind making do with what we've got, living within our means , spending more time in the championship, STAYING where we are, OUR home, and getting a manager like Gigi in again that gets the best out of players and knows how to entertain the fans. |
I remember Gigi's team continously throwing away matches in the last 5 mins.
I remember Flavio saying that we'd be top of the league if football matches lasted 85 minutes. | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:15 - Mar 6 with 2729 views | Nov77 |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:13 - Mar 6 by SpiritofGregory |
I remember Gigi's team continously throwing away matches in the last 5 mins.
I remember Flavio saying that we'd be top of the league if football matches lasted 85 minutes. |
Still better to watch than the current lot trying to induce the whole crowd into a coma. | |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:20 - Mar 6 with 2705 views | SpiritofGregory |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:15 - Mar 6 by Nov77 |
Still better to watch than the current lot trying to induce the whole crowd into a coma. |
I'd rather watch a QPR team that plays like Burnley. | | | |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:26 - Mar 6 with 2685 views | stevec |
| QPR Accounts... on 13:55 - Mar 6 by Blue_Castello |
Checking the FFP rules we are exempt from a fine if we don't get promoted but can be hit with a transfer embargo in January 2015 - think that how it reads ? |
Looking at those figures we must be heading for a near £50m loss this season, before transfers.
Samba £12m, Remy £10m, Taraabt £3m - probably £25m back in but must have spent near £15m on Austin, Phillips etc. So overall loss likely to be around £40m.
To put that into FFP context, £40m worth of fines would wipe most of the Sky money if promoted, then there's increased player spending/wages. If we don't go up then a certain transfer embargo but a chance to get the high earners off the wage bill.
It doesn't look good either way, but at the same time, the option of staying in the Championship next year doesn't seem such a disaster as previously thought, particularly if it creates a more long term view. |  | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:27 - Mar 6 with 2680 views | Nov77 |
This is all over the papers, no wonder other clubs hate us so much.
Can someone please pull Tony's pants up! | |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:38 - Mar 6 with 2658 views | BklynRanger |
Some meaty and embarrassing facts there. Just another day for your average QPR supporter.
But fear not, I for one am supremely confident that this story will cause Harry and his elite coaching group to roll up their sleeves and go about the task of gaining promotion with even more gusto. |  | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:38 - Mar 6 with 2655 views | SpiritofGregory |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:26 - Mar 6 by stevec |
Looking at those figures we must be heading for a near £50m loss this season, before transfers.
Samba £12m, Remy £10m, Taraabt £3m - probably £25m back in but must have spent near £15m on Austin, Phillips etc. So overall loss likely to be around £40m.
To put that into FFP context, £40m worth of fines would wipe most of the Sky money if promoted, then there's increased player spending/wages. If we don't go up then a certain transfer embargo but a chance to get the high earners off the wage bill.
It doesn't look good either way, but at the same time, the option of staying in the Championship next year doesn't seem such a disaster as previously thought, particularly if it creates a more long term view. |
£10m for Remy?!
Have you seen what top class strikers go for - £25m minimum. | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:41 - Mar 6 with 2650 views | ThGrimRanger |
| QPR Accounts... on 09:50 - Mar 6 by George_Milton |
complete mismanagement. All this shows is that TF/ the board have us by the balls. For some one who runs a business its astonishing they have let this happen.
Yes TF is a nice guy and all that, but this seriously puts the club at risk in the long term. |
disagree with this, I think if anything it's the other way around.
we've not only over-spent on players, but also executives, coaches, scouts, physios, groundstaff, etc.
this is the collective failure of Warnock (post-promotion), Hughes and Redknapp. The owners have backed the managers and hoped we would be at least an established mid-table premiership team by now.
They haven't shirked at anything which makes the failure of the 3 managers even worse.
If the owners knew what they know now then they wouldn't have touched us with a barge-pole. Their mistakes were wanting things too quickly, employing the wrong managers and worse of all being unlucky.
Still believe they are in it for the long-term though (or until they run out of money) |  |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:41 - Mar 6 with 2647 views | Discodroid |
its now making the news on bbc 5 live. great.
i hope by listening to bbc radio , the guardian doesnt hold me responsible for the slave trade. [Post edited 6 Mar 2014 14:47]
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:43 - Mar 6 with 2635 views | stevec |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:38 - Mar 6 by SpiritofGregory |
£10m for Remy?!
Have you seen what top class strikers go for - £25m minimum. |
Well Remy could be our saviour in terms of fines or embargos, I hope you are right but given the financial awareness Rangers have shown so far I wouldn't bank on it. | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:52 - Mar 6 with 2595 views | Discodroid |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:43 - Mar 6 by stevec |
Well Remy could be our saviour in terms of fines or embargos, I hope you are right but given the financial awareness Rangers have shown so far I wouldn't bank on it. |
knowing rangers , there lamenting ian dowie and kieth rowlands have retired.
we could swap remy for them and throw in an on line subscription to bbc3.
discodroid, still bitter over the trevor sinclair deal | |
| " I guess in four or five years, the new generation's music will be .. electronics, tapes. I can kind of envision .. maybe one person .. with a lot of machines, tapes, and electronics setups, singin or speaking .. and using machines " James Douglas Morrison | 1969 |
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| QPR Accounts... on 14:52 - Mar 6 with 2593 views | SpiritofGregory |
| QPR Accounts... on 14:41 - Mar 6 by ThGrimRanger |
disagree with this, I think if anything it's the other way around.
we've not only over-spent on players, but also executives, coaches, scouts, physios, groundstaff, etc.
this is the collective failure of Warnock (post-promotion), Hughes and Redknapp. The owners have backed the managers and hoped we would be at least an established mid-table premiership team by now.
They haven't shirked at anything which makes the failure of the 3 managers even worse.
If the owners knew what they know now then they wouldn't have touched us with a barge-pole. Their mistakes were wanting things too quickly, employing the wrong managers and worse of all being unlucky.
Still believe they are in it for the long-term though (or until they run out of money) |
The board are to blame. A failed policy on managers, scouts, players... I can't blame managers and players for trying to get as much money as possible, it's up to the chairman to control them and say No!
What chairman who has money to burn allows an applicant for the vacancy of manager to interview the club? | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:04 - Mar 6 with 2569 views | QPR442 |
makes me sick thinking our club wasted so much money on old crap players that didn't even care about us.
TF and Co really need to stop chasing a dream and do what he said, in that we need to build from bottom up.
Last 3 years has just been about throwing money after money for a quick fix and once again it has not worked.
The only losers will be us fans |  | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:07 - Mar 6 with 2553 views | Discodroid |
if you would have looked at this board a few months ago, the sea change of opinion on here is tsunami like. | |
| " I guess in four or five years, the new generation's music will be .. electronics, tapes. I can kind of envision .. maybe one person .. with a lot of machines, tapes, and electronics setups, singin or speaking .. and using machines " James Douglas Morrison | 1969 |
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| QPR Accounts... on 15:20 - Mar 6 with 2534 views | ShotKneesHoop |
The most worrying thing is the last line of what they said on Sky Sports : -
"Owner Tony Fernandes said that the future of the club depended on getting back into the Premier at the end of this season"
He didn't say what would happen to the club if promotion to the Premier was not achieved. I think the board would consider walking away from the club by the sound of it.
The only bit of good news was that the club would be punished by having to observe a transfer embargo for the following season. At least that might mean we start playing a few juniors in the first team. And Bagpuss would not want to be around with that restriction because he'd have to do some work with what he had on the books. [Post edited 6 Mar 2014 15:22]
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| QPR Accounts... on 15:29 - Mar 6 with 2508 views | daveB |
not sure a transfer embargo is good news, would lead to us facing a relegation battle | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:31 - Mar 6 with 2505 views | QPR442 |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:20 - Mar 6 by ShotKneesHoop |
The most worrying thing is the last line of what they said on Sky Sports : -
"Owner Tony Fernandes said that the future of the club depended on getting back into the Premier at the end of this season"
He didn't say what would happen to the club if promotion to the Premier was not achieved. I think the board would consider walking away from the club by the sound of it.
The only bit of good news was that the club would be punished by having to observe a transfer embargo for the following season. At least that might mean we start playing a few juniors in the first team. And Bagpuss would not want to be around with that restriction because he'd have to do some work with what he had on the books. [Post edited 6 Mar 2014 15:22]
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I think that's Sky trying to sensationalise it. TF said recently that our aim was a quick return but not vital. However saying all that losing this much money is not the way to go. | | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:33 - Mar 6 with 2501 views | Gloucs_R |
Losses like that are inexcusable. Something drastic needs to happen.
Forget sacking Harry now, we cant afford to!! |  |
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| QPR Accounts... on 15:45 - Mar 6 with 2477 views | Northernr |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:29 - Mar 6 by daveB |
not sure a transfer embargo is good news, would lead to us facing a relegation battle |
I'm not convinced it would Dave. We've more than enough about us with the players we already have contracted for next season to make a very decent fist of the league. I think the embargo would be next January anyway, so nothing to preclude the usual gratuitous dozen new faces in the summer. |  | | |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:54 - Mar 6 with 2679 views | Gloucs_R |
| QPR Accounts... on 15:45 - Mar 6 by Northernr |
I'm not convinced it would Dave. We've more than enough about us with the players we already have contracted for next season to make a very decent fist of the league. I think the embargo would be next January anyway, so nothing to preclude the usual gratuitous dozen new faces in the summer. |
Does a transfer embargo stop you buying or signing players?
For example, we have 15 odd players leaving this summer. Does that mean we wouldnt be able to resign any or bring any in on a free? | |
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