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Reply		Cabango and Darling. There is no money. Try logic.
at 21:49 27 Sep 2024

It is a forum for discussion. The development fee rules are there to a be assessed and it seems that sadly Cullen and Cabango are too old by a year.

If no other club considers them worth buying them why should Swansea worry about losing them? They have no transfer value one year deal or three year deal. Cullen is not worth the wages he wants unless he improves. Both he and Cabango need to find clubs willing to pay them more than is on offer. Let them walk and replace.

There are plenty of players of this quality available in the summer. You have contributed a few times to this thread so it did not go in the bin did it wise guy? . Show some respect.

Remember there are readers on here 100s of them that are not on top of all FA rules or the ages of the players which required s research.. I thought Cabango was younger than 24.

I am not sure about this players can talk to new clubs in January rule? It seems pretty irrelevant to me.

Swansea signed Manning on a low fee when he has 6 month left (around £300k). He did not want to hang around London. Lowe came on loan to Swansea running down his deal at AFCB. Some would argue Lowe and Manning are much better players than Cullen and Cabango.
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Reply		Andrew Coleman : I don’t know if the club is up for sale
at 21:23 27 Sep 2024

The LLC has the name Swansea city. I am not a expert but I suggest that money coming in or going out of the LLC is solely related to Swansea city not DC United.

I think it is valid for Coleman to say he has invested in the football club. I assume if he had invested big cash in the LLC then he is an owner in proportion to other's investment.

That proportion of the £23m (?) is his money. I would suggest his cash put int the club dwarfs any Welsh investment in the club in history excluding Mr Morris.

People do not like me quoted the fans group but the Trust have £1m in the bank doing nothing and should invest £50k at least out of goodwill.
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Reply		Cabango and Darling. There is no money. Try logic.
at 21:15 27 Sep 2024

The club has to balance the books and cannot keep all three happy. To balance the books one goes and two stay or two go and one stays.

All three could go at the end of the season with development fees for Cabango and Cullen. This would pay for Darling perhaps.? £1m for Darling pays for £10k each for Cullen and Cabango for only one season. £2m for Darling gives Cullen and Cabango new 2 year deals at £10k a week if the club believe they are saleable assets.

Fans blame the owners but t hey cannot keep losing money like at present. There is no sympathy for them because they are rich foreigners. In my mind there are better players than Cullen for £10k a week and Vipotnik should be better when up to speed. At one time Cullen was preferred over Gyorkeres by Cooper.

Let Cullen and Cabango go in the summer and give the development money to Darling.

It is sad but Man City with different rules had to let Cole Palmer or Phil Foden go last summer. They are siting on a £50m loss already. It is not easy.

It is too easy to blame the club .
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Thread		Cabango and Darling. There is no money. Try logic.
at 19:37 27 Sep 2024

Coleman has a problem. Both Cabango and Darling and Cullen want to stay but there is not enough money around the new cost conscious club.

It appears to me all can stay until the end of the season but there could be bids in The January.

It makes sense to sell one and pay the other two what they want or let Cabango and Cullen walk at the end of the season and pay Darling.

A tricky one for the chairman. I stand to be corrected but both Cullen and Cabango will bring in development fees for the club whereas Darling would not.

If all three cannot be kept happy financially perhaps then it would be better to keep Darling happy and let the local lads walk.

On the other hand Darling would most likely draw a fee in The January to pay the pay rises of the other two. I confess I do not know what the s development fees would be. Swansea has to pay for Key.

Chelase and Man City have been forced to sell the family silver local lads in preference to transfered in players as they are logged as total profit in accountancy terms. A similar outcome for a different model perhaps. ,(Cole Palmer and Connor Gallagher sold way too cheap)

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Reply		Andrew Coleman : I don’t know if the club is up for sale
at 19:21 27 Sep 2024

Coleman in my eyes is fixing things that Jenkins had lost control over and Birch and Winter did not fix.

Recruitment has been a long bug bear where the club has fallen short. He has a new recruitment team and a new fresh philosophy similar to that of 2009.

I back Coleman. He does not deserve to be called a puppet or worse. Whether the club sells Swansea is not up to him. It is up to the leaders of the LLC and Mr Morris.

As far as I understand people do not sell something by making new investments. .

There is no doubt they would be willing to sell at the right price. There is nothing new there.
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Reply		Andrew Coleman : I don’t know if the club is up for sale
at 18:57 27 Sep 2024

Members of the Trust with the shares worth $1.6m per 1% were completely oblivious to the threat of relegation. They had not even considered selling any of their shares. There were 1000+ members and not one saw " the drop coming" in 2015 and 2016.

Perhaps they did. If so they were either asleep or did not care. I have been banging this drum for some time. The members should apologize. When fans become owners there is nowhere to hide.
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Reply		Andrew Coleman : I don’t know if the club is up for sale
at 18:47 27 Sep 2024

Stay out of matters you do not understand. You post t like a football fan with over emotional language. It belongs on the football field not in the boardroom. Swansea fans as a whole have come up well short in the boardroom. That is why all the other shareholders in 2016 made multi millions and they did not.You are out of your depth on this matter.
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Reply		Andrew Coleman : I don’t know if the club is up for sale
at 18:39 27 Sep 2024

The LLC is the parent company of Swansea city and the major shareholder. The fans own 10% of the club but are passengers. Coleman has invested it seems in the LLC giving himself a percentage ownership of the LLC. A proportion of the cash he has put in the LLC has gone into Swansea city safe to buy assets like Ronald and Franco. The profits for the sale of these players will go to Swansea city not the LLC.

The fans group will benefit from Colemans LLC pro rate investment if the valuation of the club increases.

Whether or not the LLC itself or the club ad a whole is up for sale is not up to the Chairman of Swansea city. It is a mater for the ownership group primarily Levien Kaplan Morris Silverstein and Morgan. The question is for them not him. According to fans gossip the club has been "up for sale" for years.Some were talking about. "quick flip" years ago. Another stated they would leave once the parachute s were over and put the clubb in administration. Complete tosh.

Coleman is a beath of fresh air for the club and ATM is looking to be on the right track. The normal suspects are out in force with their puppet slurs
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Reply		Do you have to be from Swansea to support The Swans ?
at 17:23 27 Sep 2024

I have lived in London Norwich Newcastle Scarborough and Birmingham and always supported Swansea city. You missed the point of Leighton Buzzard.

I would not support Swansea city it they were based there. Part of the appeal for me is it is Welsh as so am I.

Beating English teams gives me pleasure as a does being no 1 team in Wales. Swansea have in recent years " punched above its weight". Currently fans see this era as unsuccessful but in reality mid table in the Championship is the clubs natural position and above it median.
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 16:43 27 Sep 2024

You must be real confident "Lovely boy Joey" will reject the offer right?. Watch this space.

It is a real time loyalty test. We all know playing for Wales is bad for Swansea at 34. At 24 it is great as with Ollie.
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 15:58 27 Sep 2024

Let's see how much Joey loves Swansea city. I have explained to you that his decision will be very revealing.

I put it to you playing for Wales is definitely not in the interest of the club unless he goes to the World cup for the fee (insight).Most fans agree with this statement. He is not 24 like Ollie Cooper.

Playing again for Wales = Swansea City is NOT my chief love and never was
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 13:39 27 Sep 2024

I bet that is not what he has said behind the door of his office. These insights are what make the Neath Valley the place to understand stuff free from the over emotional strings of Llandore, Penllegaer Singleton, Mayals, Bonymaen and Morriston
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Reply		Do you have to be from Swansea to support The Swans ?
at 13:29 27 Sep 2024

I was born in the Neath Valley and grew up there partly and they in rural Carmarthenshire ( now called West Wales for the BBC who know English people do not care).

I have always supported Swansea city. It is based on local geographic factors. My home area. If the club was relocated to Leighton Buzzard I would cease to support them even with the same shirt badge logo etc. It is not just a brand .
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 13:22 27 Sep 2024

There is a strong Anglophile slant on here. There is nothing wrong with this actually. It belongs to the old valleys culture who were Welsh but turned their TV aerial to HTV West to avoid the Welsh language shows before S4C was formed.

Welsh nationalism is not nasty like English nationalism is.Thwrs are not exceptions of course which all pro
Welsh people condemn.

Supporting Wales is not a threat to anyone. Allen for Wales is a backward step especially as the games now are the Nations league designed for giving younger players a chance. Bellers pulled star man Colwill from the u21 and he did not kick a BBC all.
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 13:12 27 Sep 2024

If Joey signs up with Bellers some might argue given his wages and performances for Swansea he is taking the club for a ride. In my view he has expressed in love for the club in his words but not his actions.

His biggest love in club football was Stoke City. It is obligatory to love Liverpool to avoid grief from their entitled fans.

This is not a wind up. If Joey is committed to Swansea then it must be a no.

If it is a yes "I rest my case your honour".
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Reply		Revolt by Vardy and co ?
at 11:37 27 Sep 2024

On what basis was Birch " brilliant"? What did he do to deserve this praise.

Do not get me wrong he seemed to do a decent job sold McBurnie for real good money perhaps. Winter was stated for getting £11m for Rodon but he is not worth much more now.

I argue he was weak on the BLM matter and allowed the club to be used as a vehicle for a discredited organization for free with no due diligence in a rush for the moral high ground.

He will argue everyone else did this too. I would argue he would have been " brilliant" if he went a different route and explained it to Cooper, Andre Ayew and Grimes.
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Reply		Allen back in Wales contention?
at 21:47 26 Sep 2024

He knows his own body and that is why he retired. If he has second thoughts it means he is not sure about his body.

He could feel he is not good enough for 90 mins for Swansea anymore and playing for Wales in better than 10 minute cameos.

If he plays for Wales he will get injured. It is almost guaranteed as with Ramsey.

Another issue is the fees the World cup organisers pay for clubs foe use of their players.
Did Swansea not get £1m for Allen Ntcham and Cooper from Qatar WC?
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Reply		Alfie Mawson quip about Swansea vs Fulhan
at 21:42 26 Sep 2024

It has come to mean this but has no link to the the metallurgical meaning. Enthused is adequate.

Many people think it means something else like reinforced or strengthened. It is used loosely in football.
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Reply		U21s v Bristol City
at 14:10 26 Sep 2024

Evan saved the team as the defence was run ragged in the first half. Faakre is just back from injury and Iestyn is an u18 as I understand it.. The coach indicated the Bristol city team were more experienced.

The u21 and loans seems much better organised this season with Liam Smith Congreve Josh T and Cotterill all going out early and mist getting game time.
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Thread		Revolt by Vardy and co ?
at 13:15 26 Sep 2024

They have already seen off one Swansea legend in Brendan. A champions league team to relegation in 12 months.

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