| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 12:26 - Jan 26 with 662 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 22:15 - Jan 25 by SullutaCreturned |
No need, to google or to thank you.
Do any of your official letters come digitally? Council tax bills, hospital appointments etc, they come by post, they have to legally speaking because email isn't yet considered secure enough.
Maybe one day they will be safe enough but not yet.
No need to thank me for correcting your obvious mistake.
PS, are you fluent in Welsh yet? |
Govt business is already run via secure email so you can relax.
Paper is still used so older people etc can continue to interact, but we have digital channels available for almost everything now.
Its just a short matter of time when you will get charged for the paper channel - and then its game over.
Digital is cheaper, easier to change and proven in lockdown (with paper backlogs common).
Your fake argument belongs in the 1970s. |  |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:09 - Jan 26 with 601 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 12:26 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
Govt business is already run via secure email so you can relax.
Paper is still used so older people etc can continue to interact, but we have digital channels available for almost everything now.
Its just a short matter of time when you will get charged for the paper channel - and then its game over.
Digital is cheaper, easier to change and proven in lockdown (with paper backlogs common).
Your fake argument belongs in the 1970s. |
Well seeing as things are still being posted it's the current situation. Not to forget that the internet didn't exist in the 70's so how could the argument belong there.
Government internal business is run by internal email but all communications with the public are still posted out, to everybody.
The day will come when it all goes digital but it's not here yet and guess what, we are spending the money here and now, not in the future.
So that makes your argument entirely bogus, you're wrong again. You're on a very good, lomg run. |  | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:06 - Jan 26 with 577 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 16:09 - Jan 26 by SullutaCreturned |
Well seeing as things are still being posted it's the current situation. Not to forget that the internet didn't exist in the 70's so how could the argument belong there.
Government internal business is run by internal email but all communications with the public are still posted out, to everybody.
The day will come when it all goes digital but it's not here yet and guess what, we are spending the money here and now, not in the future.
So that makes your argument entirely bogus, you're wrong again. You're on a very good, lomg run. |
I never said internal govt mails.
You cant help making things up.
You must be the only person in Wales not to recognise they get far less paper mail than they used to, in my case i get no/little mail from the utility companies, the banks, retail businesses, Sky, holiday businesses. Only you could argue nothing has changed.
You are obviously wrong again.
This means less paper which means less cost, quicker services, and better for the planet.
It means the provision of welsh versions of everything is cheaper than ever.
You must be gutted.
Anyway i will let you get back to watching Bulleye or Love Thy Neighbour on Dave, the modern world is not for you champ. | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:12 - Jan 26 with 562 views | Gwyn737 |
I think it’s common sense that the language needs help to survive and conversations about the best/most cost effective way of doing it should be welcomed.
I can’t understand what any Welsh person would want it to die out.
Maybe I’ve got it wrong and thats not what some on here want shrug🤷🏻 | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:20 - Jan 26 with 540 views | builthjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:12 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
I think it’s common sense that the language needs help to survive and conversations about the best/most cost effective way of doing it should be welcomed.
I can’t understand what any Welsh person would want it to die out.
Maybe I’ve got it wrong and thats not what some on here want shrug🤷🏻 |
Lots of kids are learning it in these parts.
The problem with the language around here is that loads of Southern England pensioners keep moving in and buying up property, far cheaper than down south, and free prescriptions which takes a lot of money out of Powys NHS. They won’t learn Welsh. It’s a problem.
But I don’t blame them for buying cheap houses, and having free prescriptions. Who wouldn’t. |  |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:49 - Jan 26 with 523 views | Whiterockin |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:12 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
I think it’s common sense that the language needs help to survive and conversations about the best/most cost effective way of doing it should be welcomed.
I can’t understand what any Welsh person would want it to die out.
Maybe I’ve got it wrong and thats not what some on here want shrug🤷🏻 |
I would say that in general Welsh people don't want the language to die out. But the current level of spending to promote the language is far beyond a level that it achieves and does not give value for money when public services are failing. We also have the Welsh language bureaucracy that businesses in Wales have to comply with which is not helping to encourage businesses to come to Wales. There has to be a balance and the Senedd have gone to far one way and not succeeding in their aim. |  | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:58 - Jan 26 with 514 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:06 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
I never said internal govt mails.
You cant help making things up.
You must be the only person in Wales not to recognise they get far less paper mail than they used to, in my case i get no/little mail from the utility companies, the banks, retail businesses, Sky, holiday businesses. Only you could argue nothing has changed.
You are obviously wrong again.
This means less paper which means less cost, quicker services, and better for the planet.
It means the provision of welsh versions of everything is cheaper than ever.
You must be gutted.
Anyway i will let you get back to watching Bulleye or Love Thy Neighbour on Dave, the modern world is not for you champ. |
You said government, every official communication I get from th government and even the public sector comes via the post and bilingually. It's obviously escaped your attention but the utilities the banks, retail businesses etc, they are not public sector. So no, I didn't make anything up but you just did.
My council tax bill, by post and bilingually, any Senedd communication comes bilingually. Can you seriously not tell the difference between government and private business. You really are a clown.
As it goes, you massive *****, pretty much all of my business (outside of the public sector) is done digitally but you don't get that option with the Senedd, the NHS etc.
I have never argued that nothing has changed, that is yet another thing that you made up. it's clear that things have changed and because of some of those changes things have become more expensive. You, clearly being a bit twp cannot comprehend that.
PS, I won't be gutted if the Senedd stops wasting so much money but I will always complain about our government wasting money.. You always moan about Westminster but you give the Semedd a free pass. You really are absurd. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:02 - Jan 26 with 500 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:12 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
I think it’s common sense that the language needs help to survive and conversations about the best/most cost effective way of doing it should be welcomed.
I can’t understand what any Welsh person would want it to die out.
Maybe I’ve got it wrong and thats not what some on here want shrug🤷🏻 |
It appears to be the case.
Self loathing middle aged Welshmen, how embarrassing not to champion your own ancient language.
Nothing wrong with not being able to speak it yourself, but you can still do your bit and support it.
I will never understand them.
At least the young people can think for themselves. | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:02 - Jan 26 with 500 views | Gwyn737 |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:49 - Jan 26 by Whiterockin |
I would say that in general Welsh people don't want the language to die out. But the current level of spending to promote the language is far beyond a level that it achieves and does not give value for money when public services are failing. We also have the Welsh language bureaucracy that businesses in Wales have to comply with which is not helping to encourage businesses to come to Wales. There has to be a balance and the Senedd have gone to far one way and not succeeding in their aim. |
I think that’s perfectly reasonable WR.
It shouldn’t be long before Artificial Intelligence will be able to lighten the load pretty considerably.
We just need to get rid of Natural Stupidity at the same time 🤣 | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:07 - Jan 26 with 492 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:02 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
I think that’s perfectly reasonable WR.
It shouldn’t be long before Artificial Intelligence will be able to lighten the load pretty considerably.
We just need to get rid of Natural Stupidity at the same time 🤣 |
What WR posted, that's my position too. I don't want the language to die but there are greater priorities.
I do think though, people get a bit too obsessed with artifically making things survive. It's the way of the world we live in that things change, cultures come and go, languages are born and die, things become extinct and new things replace them.
Nothing lasts forever. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:17 - Jan 26 with 484 views | raynor94 |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:02 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
It appears to be the case.
Self loathing middle aged Welshmen, how embarrassing not to champion your own ancient language.
Nothing wrong with not being able to speak it yourself, but you can still do your bit and support it.
I will never understand them.
At least the young people can think for themselves. |
Well you're a middle aged Welsh man yourself, do all your middle aged friends think the same way as you? |  |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:31 - Jan 26 with 477 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 18:58 - Jan 26 by SullutaCreturned |
You said government, every official communication I get from th government and even the public sector comes via the post and bilingually. It's obviously escaped your attention but the utilities the banks, retail businesses etc, they are not public sector. So no, I didn't make anything up but you just did.
My council tax bill, by post and bilingually, any Senedd communication comes bilingually. Can you seriously not tell the difference between government and private business. You really are a clown.
As it goes, you massive *****, pretty much all of my business (outside of the public sector) is done digitally but you don't get that option with the Senedd, the NHS etc.
I have never argued that nothing has changed, that is yet another thing that you made up. it's clear that things have changed and because of some of those changes things have become more expensive. You, clearly being a bit twp cannot comprehend that.
PS, I won't be gutted if the Senedd stops wasting so much money but I will always complain about our government wasting money.. You always moan about Westminster but you give the Semedd a free pass. You really are absurd. |
Calm down. You are clearly a bit of a Luddite.
The obvious truth is that the whole direction of travel is away from your old paper and towards modern digital.
Govt services are there waiting for you to use, whereas it was previously a paper chase.
‘Tell Us Once’ even allows us to inform govt once that someone has died.
Same with digital photos on passports etc.
And yes same with private sector companies.
So the cost of service provision in welsh has reduced hugely and will continue to fall.
I am sure you will celebrate this truth.
Its not the 1970s anymore. | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:37 - Jan 26 with 464 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:17 - Jan 26 by raynor94 |
Well you're a middle aged Welsh man yourself, do all your middle aged friends think the same way as you? |
No - some do but many dont.
Its a relic from the war generation.
Brexit was their last hurrah.
I am pleased to say the young are far more confidently welsh.
You should try it, it must hurt living life on your knees to the English crown…. | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:39 - Jan 26 with 450 views | Treforys_Jack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:17 - Jan 26 by raynor94 |
Well you're a middle aged Welsh man yourself, do all your middle aged friends think the same way as you? |
He can't be middle aged aged mun, surely not. |  | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:40 - Jan 26 with 448 views | Whiterockin |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:37 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
No - some do but many dont.
Its a relic from the war generation.
Brexit was their last hurrah.
I am pleased to say the young are far more confidently welsh.
You should try it, it must hurt living life on your knees to the English crown…. |
Regarding the last sentence, I think it would depend on if you were successful or a failure in life. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:42 - Jan 26 with 435 views | Kilkennyjack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:07 - Jan 26 by SullutaCreturned |
What WR posted, that's my position too. I don't want the language to die but there are greater priorities.
I do think though, people get a bit too obsessed with artifically making things survive. It's the way of the world we live in that things change, cultures come and go, languages are born and die, things become extinct and new things replace them.
Nothing lasts forever. |
If you half understood the generational struggle to save the welsh language from its deliberate eradication by the English crown then you would not post that.
Nothing is inevitable and the people themselves saved the language for future generations.
An heroic story of human resilience.
Thankfully they had far more backbone than you seem to possess. | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:01 - Jan 26 with 407 views | raynor94 |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:39 - Jan 26 by Treforys_Jack |
He can't be middle aged aged mun, surely not. |
He certainly is | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:10 - Jan 26 with 382 views | union_jack |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:37 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
No - some do but many dont.
Its a relic from the war generation.
Brexit was their last hurrah.
I am pleased to say the young are far more confidently welsh.
You should try it, it must hurt living life on your knees to the English crown…. |
And it must be tiring being weighed down by the chips on your shoulders that you demonstrate every time you enter into this debate!
You talk about preserving the language. That’s great but to what end. So few people use it on a daily basis. More may ‘speak’ it depending upon the definition, even I know the odd word or two as all people living here will, but using it to communicate is very small percentage-wise. Yet the expense in a time where every penny is needed in essential services is disproportionate. |  |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:38 - Jan 26 with 352 views | Gwyn737 |
I’ll continue to be devil’s advocate…
What else shall we take money from to support the ailing health service?
Musesms?
Libraries?
Arts?
Youth organisations?
The voluntary sector?
Historical archives?
The point I’m trying to make is if we only consent to taxes being spent on things we agree with we’re going to be perpetually disappointed.
Whether individual things to promote the Welsh language are value for money are different arguments. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:50 - Jan 26 with 338 views | Whiterockin |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:38 - Jan 26 by Gwyn737 |
I’ll continue to be devil’s advocate…
What else shall we take money from to support the ailing health service?
Musesms?
Libraries?
Arts?
Youth organisations?
The voluntary sector?
Historical archives?
The point I’m trying to make is if we only consent to taxes being spent on things we agree with we’re going to be perpetually disappointed.
Whether individual things to promote the Welsh language are value for money are different arguments. |
I would say none of the list are detrimental to encouraging businesses to locate to Wales. The continual red tape attached to the Welsh language is. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:59 - Jan 26 with 318 views | Gwyn737 |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:50 - Jan 26 by Whiterockin |
I would say none of the list are detrimental to encouraging businesses to locate to Wales. The continual red tape attached to the Welsh language is. |
But they all cost money in different ways to sustain our history and culture.
There are certainly more and less effective ways to promote the language. I guess that overall I think it’s worth it. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:01 - Jan 26 with 311 views | lifelong |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 20:50 - Jan 26 by Whiterockin |
I would say none of the list are detrimental to encouraging businesses to locate to Wales. The continual red tape attached to the Welsh language is. |
Is there any evidence to support that claim? |  | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:23 - Jan 26 with 264 views | Whiterockin |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:01 - Jan 26 by lifelong |
Is there any evidence to support that claim? |
Only what has been discussed at various breakfast networking meetings. With various delegates stating their feelings and opinions. Companies present are often large, small and government bodies. | | | |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:46 - Jan 26 with 217 views | raynor94 |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 19:37 - Jan 26 by Kilkennyjack |
No - some do but many dont.
Its a relic from the war generation.
Brexit was their last hurrah.
I am pleased to say the young are far more confidently welsh.
You should try it, it must hurt living life on your knees to the English crown…. |
I've had a very good life under the English crown, it seems you haven't.
You come across as a covetous individual, who for some reason is very bitter with their life | |
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| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 09:03 - Jan 27 with 75 views | onehunglow |
| Number of Welsh-speakers lowest in eight years on 21:46 - Jan 26 by raynor94 |
I've had a very good life under the English crown, it seems you haven't.
You come across as a covetous individual, who for some reason is very bitter with their life |
Nobody want welsh to die out
People need to understand that | |
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