| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:10 - Oct 15 with 1456 views | KeithHaynes |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 17:39 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is football. If footballers will not sign deals there is nothing the club can do about it. We all know that all three players have been offered what is fabulous money for you and me "Taking the p" is nonsense. I am perfectly happy y to see Cullen walk away and end up in league 1.
Darling wants to move on the club needs to get a fee from him Swansea bought Manning for £250k and did not wait for his contact to end. The club will probably have to overpay Cabango. Give him more money that he is worth for stability and continuity.
There are plenty of players at least as good as Cullen in the lower league with higher potential. [Post edited 15 Oct 17:41]
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Sorry Res, but cullens contract is pathetic. They are relying on his goodwill, which is pretty much done with.
You cannot allow these three players to leave for nothing. That means they all agree deals in January ( it happens ) with other clubs and publicly run down their contracts. Their agents I can assure everyone are not stupid. This is a ridiclious situation that is awaiting now for new investment which is dragging on. If new people within the club cannot manage this in time we will lose them and the players.
Should I blame anyone 😂
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:16 - Oct 15 with 1412 views | Whiterockin |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:10 - Oct 15 by KeithHaynes |
Sorry Res, but cullens contract is pathetic. They are relying on his goodwill, which is pretty much done with.
You cannot allow these three players to leave for nothing. That means they all agree deals in January ( it happens ) with other clubs and publicly run down their contracts. Their agents I can assure everyone are not stupid. This is a ridiclious situation that is awaiting now for new investment which is dragging on. If new people within the club cannot manage this in time we will lose them and the players.
Should I blame anyone 😂
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An international player on a couple of grand a week is as you say pathetic. What he asked for before they invoked the extension was low compared to what the other squad players are having and he even offered to negotiate and they refused. No wonder the three are not happy with the owners, I don't blame them for leaving. |  | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:37 - Oct 15 with 1348 views | Dr_Winston |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:16 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
An international player on a couple of grand a week is as you say pathetic. What he asked for before they invoked the extension was low compared to what the other squad players are having and he even offered to negotiate and they refused. No wonder the three are not happy with the owners, I don't blame them for leaving. |
That Wales are so bereft of forward options Cullen can get a game really shouldn't factor into the clubs thinking when it comes to contract worth.
They have to base it on what he is, namely a bang average Championship striker who probably wouldn't get all that many games for us if we had other options to choose from. |  |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:46 - Oct 15 with 1322 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:37 - Oct 15 by Dr_Winston |
That Wales are so bereft of forward options Cullen can get a game really shouldn't factor into the clubs thinking when it comes to contract worth.
They have to base it on what he is, namely a bang average Championship striker who probably wouldn't get all that many games for us if we had other options to choose from. |
Correct I would not even think about Cullen until Darling and Cabango are sorted. I expect one will stay and one will go. Darling has been making excuses so I do not expect there is anything the club can do to keep him. Best to get him out the door with a fee.
There will he hundreds of players in the same place to partner one or the other. There will also be loans.
Cullen's wage is poor because he has declined a new deal. This might be left on the table. Williams has told him to earn the deal he wants. 12-15 goals. I think it is beyond him. |  |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:55 - Oct 15 with 1288 views | raynor94 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:46 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Correct I would not even think about Cullen until Darling and Cabango are sorted. I expect one will stay and one will go. Darling has been making excuses so I do not expect there is anything the club can do to keep him. Best to get him out the door with a fee.
There will he hundreds of players in the same place to partner one or the other. There will also be loans.
Cullen's wage is poor because he has declined a new deal. This might be left on the table. Williams has told him to earn the deal he wants. 12-15 goals. I think it is beyond him. |
Your second paragraph sound like relegation to me |  |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:01 - Oct 15 with 1248 views | Whiterockin |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:55 - Oct 15 by raynor94 |
Your second paragraph sound like relegation to me |
Plus Cullen has not been offered a new deal the one year option was enforced on the same wages and when Cullen tried to negotiate a new deal they refused.
The fact is if they don't sort out the new investment/ownership quickly the shite is really going to hit the fan and as supporters the worse is yet to come. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:32 - Oct 15 with 1157 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:01 - Oct 15 by Whiterockin |
Plus Cullen has not been offered a new deal the one year option was enforced on the same wages and when Cullen tried to negotiate a new deal they refused.
The fact is if they don't sort out the new investment/ownership quickly the shite is really going to hit the fan and as supporters the worse is yet to come. |
You are definite about it but Williams wants him to stay and wanted him to SIGN a new contract. There must have therefore been one to sign. Fans are keen he signs a normal Championship contract but most teams a have monthly deficits and losses.
https://www.google.com/search?q=williams+on+liam+cullen+contract&oq=&gs_ | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:37 - Oct 15 with 1160 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 17:39 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is football. If footballers will not sign deals there is nothing the club can do about it. We all know that all three players have been offered what is fabulous money for you and me "Taking the p" is nonsense. I am perfectly happy y to see Cullen walk away and end up in league 1.
Darling wants to move on the club needs to get a fee from him Swansea bought Manning for £250k and did not wait for his contact to end. The club will probably have to overpay Cabango. Give him more money that he is worth for stability and continuity.
There are plenty of players at least as good as Cullen in the lower league with higher potential. [Post edited 15 Oct 17:41]
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They are Championship footballers. They don’t want ‘fabulous money to you and me’, they want Championship footballer money. Darling and Cabango have both been excellent this season and we have one of the tightest defences in the league. That doesn’t help if we’re offering below the going rate.
Be careful what you wish for, the last three strikers they bought have two league goals this season between them. |  | | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:41 - Oct 15 with 1153 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 18:37 - Oct 15 by Dr_Winston |
That Wales are so bereft of forward options Cullen can get a game really shouldn't factor into the clubs thinking when it comes to contract worth.
They have to base it on what he is, namely a bang average Championship striker who probably wouldn't get all that many games for us if we had other options to choose from. |
Sad realities of that are we don’t have many other options to choose from and if we offered him a bang average championship striker wage, he’d probably be under contract for the next few years.
I agree about the international striker bit though. Enough of our fans think Vipotnik must be a good striker because Slovenia play him. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:45 - Oct 15 with 1144 views | KeithHaynes |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:37 - Oct 15 by jack247 |
They are Championship footballers. They don’t want ‘fabulous money to you and me’, they want Championship footballer money. Darling and Cabango have both been excellent this season and we have one of the tightest defences in the league. That doesn’t help if we’re offering below the going rate.
Be careful what you wish for, the last three strikers they bought have two league goals this season between them. |
The issue for me now is both have gone well above, of even a decent to excellent contract at Swansea.
Cabango especially.
And Pedersen’s assumed contract is absolutely way way above anything we would offer. | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:03 - Oct 15 with 1092 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:37 - Oct 15 by jack247 |
They are Championship footballers. They don’t want ‘fabulous money to you and me’, they want Championship footballer money. Darling and Cabango have both been excellent this season and we have one of the tightest defences in the league. That doesn’t help if we’re offering below the going rate.
Be careful what you wish for, the last three strikers they bought have two league goals this season between them. |
You do not understand that "championship" average money is leaving Swansea and other clubs with monthly £1m deficits. The idea of any business is to make a profit. Profit is good even in South Wales.
Swansea have to cut wages not pay the "going rate". The only way this can be achieved is by getting a fee for Darling. £1m will cover Cabango for his new 2 year deal. You called this thinking as absurd for some reason.
Petersen on big money has to go and replaced by Lissah or a new signing . | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:10 - Oct 15 with 1082 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 19:45 - Oct 15 by KeithHaynes |
The issue for me now is both have gone well above, of even a decent to excellent contract at Swansea.
Cabango especially.
And Pedersen’s assumed contract is absolutely way way above anything we would offer. |
They don’t know what they’re doing | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:14 - Oct 15 with 1074 views | raynor94 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:03 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not understand that "championship" average money is leaving Swansea and other clubs with monthly £1m deficits. The idea of any business is to make a profit. Profit is good even in South Wales.
Swansea have to cut wages not pay the "going rate". The only way this can be achieved is by getting a fee for Darling. £1m will cover Cabango for his new 2 year deal. You called this thinking as absurd for some reason.
Petersen on big money has to go and replaced by Lissah or a new signing . |
Do you honestly believe Cabango will want to sign a new contract with what's happening at the club.
He can earn far in excess of £1 million over 2 years.
Following your blueprint we are heading for relegation, who on earth is going to pay Pederson what he's on here | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:18 - Oct 15 with 1068 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:03 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not understand that "championship" average money is leaving Swansea and other clubs with monthly £1m deficits. The idea of any business is to make a profit. Profit is good even in South Wales.
Swansea have to cut wages not pay the "going rate". The only way this can be achieved is by getting a fee for Darling. £1m will cover Cabango for his new 2 year deal. You called this thinking as absurd for some reason.
Petersen on big money has to go and replaced by Lissah or a new signing . |
As it happens, I didn’t call that thinking absurd, but I agree with the poster who did.
I don’t think you’re quite grasping the financial implications of relegation, which will happen sooner or later, if we let our best players walk for free and replace them cheaply.
Football clubs run as badly as ours won’t be profitable or successful, we can only hope there is a change at the top soon. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:27 - Oct 15 with 1046 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:18 - Oct 15 by jack247 |
As it happens, I didn’t call that thinking absurd, but I agree with the poster who did.
I don’t think you’re quite grasping the financial implications of relegation, which will happen sooner or later, if we let our best players walk for free and replace them cheaply.
Football clubs run as badly as ours won’t be profitable or successful, we can only hope there is a change at the top soon. |
You do not grasp the fact that changing one group of rich US owners with another group of foreign owners will change anything. Someone like Tan who might have a gamble and shove the losses on the club when it fails.
Swansea have to build slowly and gradually and develop it players to be much better. It must give players like Abdullai his chance in his right position. The like of Fulton Cullen and Naughton and Allen are not going to get Swansea top 6. Franco Eom, Ronald, Parker, Wilson and Abdullai might with hard work [Post edited 15 Oct 20:31]
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:30 - Oct 15 with 1038 views | SullutaCreturned |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 14:48 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
Darling wants to leave I suspect and there is nothing the club can do to stop him. Darling has made misleading comments to keep him sweet with the fans until the end of the season. Ramsey played this game at Arsenal saying " there is no contract offer on the table"
The club should sell him if at all possible. Hopefully Abbey or Pederson can step in. Cabango should be offered a good long deal as an ever improving academy player.
Cullen can do what he likes. If any offer comes in take it. The club has a very poor record in developing forwards. He has been given every chance including a penalty. He is OK but OK is not good enough.. Local number 9 for Swansea is still vacant. Josh Thomas is struggling.
Perhaps Woodward is the man. That is where the budget should be going. And the two lads linked with Arsenal and Man City. Sam Parker is tied up thankfully. [Post edited 15 Oct 14:50]
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What misleading comments has he made? Can you prove they are misleading or is it another assumption stated as fact? Honest question because I haven't seen what he's said.
We can only sell him if he agrees to leave, if he has set his mind on leaving on a free then we are stuck.
Any of our young players not on a full contract can be lured away and a tribunal will decide the "development fee" but being a Championship club we'll probably get screwed over, the EPL clubs always get the better end of those decisions.
Yournthird paragraph I agree with, Cullen isn't good enough. He's 25 now, time for him to find his level which I think is league one. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:33 - Oct 15 with 1028 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:27 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
You do not grasp the fact that changing one group of rich US owners with another group of foreign owners will change anything. Someone like Tan who might have a gamble and shove the losses on the club when it fails.
Swansea have to build slowly and gradually and develop it players to be much better. It must give players like Abdullai his chance in his right position. The like of Fulton Cullen and Naughton and Allen are not going to get Swansea top 6. Franco Eom, Ronald, Parker, Wilson and Abdullai might with hard work [Post edited 15 Oct 20:31]
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It doesn’t matter how rich they are, they don’t have the competence or desire to run us properly, which is why we are in managed decline.
You aren’t dull enough not to understand that.
No club in the Championship and I’d bet not many in league one have a weaker strike force than us. No other club in the Championship has just two senior centre backs on their books with both looking likely to leave for free at the end of the season.
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:54 - Oct 15 with 967 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:33 - Oct 15 by jack247 |
It doesn’t matter how rich they are, they don’t have the competence or desire to run us properly, which is why we are in managed decline.
You aren’t dull enough not to understand that.
No club in the Championship and I’d bet not many in league one have a weaker strike force than us. No other club in the Championship has just two senior centre backs on their books with both looking likely to leave for free at the end of the season.
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The team is maid table a with a competent manager with Vipotnik Bianchini.and Cullen with Wilson pressing adding pace and directness.
Vipotnik and Bianchini are finding their feet and Williams has to improve them. Even Bony needed 2-3 months I recall. If the club can agree some things with Cabango they will need a new centre back in January or June. I call it everyday problems you call it neglect. If Cullen can agree a deal for £100k then great. Wilson needs to step up asap. | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 22:01 - Oct 15 with 895 views | majorraglan |
Cabango played very well last night, if he carries on like that then the club is going to have to act quickly and get him on a new contract or he’ll be offski on a freebie next year. His agent will have no shortage of decent offers. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 22:54 - Oct 15 with 808 views | KeithHaynes |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:30 - Oct 15 by SullutaCreturned |
What misleading comments has he made? Can you prove they are misleading or is it another assumption stated as fact? Honest question because I haven't seen what he's said.
We can only sell him if he agrees to leave, if he has set his mind on leaving on a free then we are stuck.
Any of our young players not on a full contract can be lured away and a tribunal will decide the "development fee" but being a Championship club we'll probably get screwed over, the EPL clubs always get the better end of those decisions.
Yournthird paragraph I agree with, Cullen isn't good enough. He's 25 now, time for him to find his level which I think is league one. |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 06:14 - Oct 16 with 689 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 20:54 - Oct 15 by ReslovenSwan1 |
The team is maid table a with a competent manager with Vipotnik Bianchini.and Cullen with Wilson pressing adding pace and directness.
Vipotnik and Bianchini are finding their feet and Williams has to improve them. Even Bony needed 2-3 months I recall. If the club can agree some things with Cabango they will need a new centre back in January or June. I call it everyday problems you call it neglect. If Cullen can agree a deal for £100k then great. Wilson needs to step up asap. |
Look at it objectively without your agenda. Two senior centre backs at the club with both out of contract at the end of the season is not ‘every day problems’.
Come back to me in January or June when Cabango has signed an extension and we’ve signed him a partner of Darlings quality. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 10:06 - Oct 16 with 581 views | ReslovenSwan1 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 06:14 - Oct 16 by jack247 |
Look at it objectively without your agenda. Two senior centre backs at the club with both out of contract at the end of the season is not ‘every day problems’.
Come back to me in January or June when Cabango has signed an extension and we’ve signed him a partner of Darlings quality. |
It is a typical football problem all clubs have. Three players out of contract are at all clubs. Two are in the same position sadly. One has to be kept for continuity. My solution is to move on Darling for a fee and use some of the money to give Cabango a long deal.
The club has shown an ability for wheeling and dealing. No negligence as far as I can see. | |
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| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 10:32 - Oct 16 with 547 views | Whiterockin |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 10:06 - Oct 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a typical football problem all clubs have. Three players out of contract are at all clubs. Two are in the same position sadly. One has to be kept for continuity. My solution is to move on Darling for a fee and use some of the money to give Cabango a long deal.
The club has shown an ability for wheeling and dealing. No negligence as far as I can see. |
Why would Darling accept a transfer in January and deprive himself of a signing on fee that could quite possibly be seven figures. He only has to wait 6 months. He will run his contract down like Manning and Latibeaudiere. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 10:49 - Oct 16 with 521 views | hectorshouse |
What I can't wrap my head around is why can't they seem to make a strategic decision, as painful as that may be. In this case the 'obvious' thing to do would be to accept Darling is going, Cullen can stay or go doesn't really matter, Cabango we need to stay. Therefore as a business surely you would accept this position and offer Cabango what we need to to get him to stay. We will have to fund this increase for 6/7 months until Darling (and probably Cullen) leaves which will free up cash to finance the Cabango deal going forward into next season.
It just appears that the current owners are not being proactive in making decisions just letting things happen and fire fighting when it all goes tits up. This is no way to run any business let alone a football club. | | | |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 11:16 - Oct 16 with 483 views | jack247 |
| Darling, Cabango & Cullen : Contract Latest on 10:06 - Oct 16 by ReslovenSwan1 |
It is a typical football problem all clubs have. Three players out of contract are at all clubs. Two are in the same position sadly. One has to be kept for continuity. My solution is to move on Darling for a fee and use some of the money to give Cabango a long deal.
The club has shown an ability for wheeling and dealing. No negligence as far as I can see. |
Don’t try to twist this into a normal situation.
We ONLY have two senior centre backs on our books and they are BOTH able and fairly likely to walk for free in the summer.
That is in no way comparable to a club with a normal playing squad having three players contracts expiring (that would be a worry in itself if they were all regular starters, which ours are).
You know that and you won’t fool anyone by pretending it’s the sort of thing that happens to well run clubs. | | | |
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