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NFR 16:26 - Jan 17 with 28208 viewsArthurDaley

Just seen our MP Tony Lloyd had died. He reviled last week he had blood cancer.


A large VAT Dave

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NFR on 07:40 - Mar 1 with 2636 viewsTrev

Haven't lived in the Borough for years but, from the outside looking in, I really don't see how this serves the people of Rochdale. It's clear that Galloway's only here because of the large Muslim population. For his opening statement to be that 'this is for Gaza' is just plain weird and wrong. Surely it should be for the people of the town?
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NFR on 08:36 - Mar 1 with 2507 viewsDaley_Lama

Having a Tory Rossendale MP doesn’t seem quite so bad this morning.

Good effort by Dave Tully!

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NFR on 10:04 - Mar 1 with 2263 viewsEllDale

Galloway was always going to be favourite I suppose after Labour completely messed up.
But Rochdale is a strange constituency and the circumstances were ideal for him.
Despite all the tubthumping and media exposure though the turnout was 40% which is pretty low for a well publicised by-election. The electorate seemed indifferent.
So Galloway received 40% of 40% if that makes sense. The mainstream parties came nowhere, rolling in behind a remarkable achievement by David Tully whilst Danzcuk was more or less humiliated.
When it’s general election time another 30% on the those on the electoral register may well bother to turn out. The destination of their votes, plus the 6000 of Tully’s will decide who the next MP is after Galloway who has possibly won maxed out already on his potential support.
Many years ago I did a student dissertation on Rochdale’s first Labour MP who won the seat in 1924, almost exactly a century ago. His name was William Kelly, and, as his name perhaps suggests, he was accused of hoovering up the “immigrant Irish vote” so some things don’t change in some ways!
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NFR on 10:53 - Mar 1 with 2147 viewsJames1980

NFR on 20:09 - Jan 17 by SuddenLad

It won't.

Shove a Labour rosette on a pigeon and it will get elected. Nothing to excite the media in a by-election here. Except the abysmal turnout, perhaps.


You were saying.

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NFR on 11:13 - Mar 1 with 2088 viewstony_roch975

NFR on 10:04 - Mar 1 by EllDale

Galloway was always going to be favourite I suppose after Labour completely messed up.
But Rochdale is a strange constituency and the circumstances were ideal for him.
Despite all the tubthumping and media exposure though the turnout was 40% which is pretty low for a well publicised by-election. The electorate seemed indifferent.
So Galloway received 40% of 40% if that makes sense. The mainstream parties came nowhere, rolling in behind a remarkable achievement by David Tully whilst Danzcuk was more or less humiliated.
When it’s general election time another 30% on the those on the electoral register may well bother to turn out. The destination of their votes, plus the 6000 of Tully’s will decide who the next MP is after Galloway who has possibly won maxed out already on his potential support.
Many years ago I did a student dissertation on Rochdale’s first Labour MP who won the seat in 1924, almost exactly a century ago. His name was William Kelly, and, as his name perhaps suggests, he was accused of hoovering up the “immigrant Irish vote” so some things don’t change in some ways!


Agree with your analysis - Reform's humiliation was a welcome surprise.

Another significant factor at the GE will be that, with the upcoming Constituency Boundary Changes, the Rochdale Constituency will lose Spotland & Falinge ward and thus a large part of the 'Muslim' vote.

Interesting historical link - plus ca change!

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NFR on 11:22 - Mar 1 with 2061 views49thseason

NFR on 10:04 - Mar 1 by EllDale

Galloway was always going to be favourite I suppose after Labour completely messed up.
But Rochdale is a strange constituency and the circumstances were ideal for him.
Despite all the tubthumping and media exposure though the turnout was 40% which is pretty low for a well publicised by-election. The electorate seemed indifferent.
So Galloway received 40% of 40% if that makes sense. The mainstream parties came nowhere, rolling in behind a remarkable achievement by David Tully whilst Danzcuk was more or less humiliated.
When it’s general election time another 30% on the those on the electoral register may well bother to turn out. The destination of their votes, plus the 6000 of Tully’s will decide who the next MP is after Galloway who has possibly won maxed out already on his potential support.
Many years ago I did a student dissertation on Rochdale’s first Labour MP who won the seat in 1924, almost exactly a century ago. His name was William Kelly, and, as his name perhaps suggests, he was accused of hoovering up the “immigrant Irish vote” so some things don’t change in some ways!


And you can throw into that mix the boundary changes that have taken place.
Danczuk was a dreadful choice by Reform as essentially he is yesterdays man and carries rather too much baggage. The boundary change has seriously affected the Tory vote and there was no appetite for the Liberals as a middle way.
The calibre of the candidates, Tully excepted, was about as poor as it gets and sadly reflects politics in Rochdale generally when you look at the council. And besides, what have our MPs ever really done for the town? We keep sending them to Parliament but can anyone actually point to anything and honestly say "our MP did that for us"? They all simply become cannon fodder in the corridors of Westminster.

If I were Dave Tully this morning, I would be plotting to bring a new party into local politics and make a real difference to the town, party politics as we know them are now corrupted beyond redemption, its time for local people with a local agenda to take local control of local affairs and throw out the party-political drones we are currently infected with.
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NFR on 12:26 - Mar 1 with 1951 viewsRAFCBLUE

NFR on 11:22 - Mar 1 by 49thseason

And you can throw into that mix the boundary changes that have taken place.
Danczuk was a dreadful choice by Reform as essentially he is yesterdays man and carries rather too much baggage. The boundary change has seriously affected the Tory vote and there was no appetite for the Liberals as a middle way.
The calibre of the candidates, Tully excepted, was about as poor as it gets and sadly reflects politics in Rochdale generally when you look at the council. And besides, what have our MPs ever really done for the town? We keep sending them to Parliament but can anyone actually point to anything and honestly say "our MP did that for us"? They all simply become cannon fodder in the corridors of Westminster.

If I were Dave Tully this morning, I would be plotting to bring a new party into local politics and make a real difference to the town, party politics as we know them are now corrupted beyond redemption, its time for local people with a local agenda to take local control of local affairs and throw out the party-political drones we are currently infected with.


Allen Brett was on Radio 4 this morning talking about the election. He was positive about Dave Tully, less positive about other aspects.

I wonder if there is a possibility that Dave Tully could become Labour's General Election candidate for later in this year?

The local agenda needs a quality local voice but with mainstream support so that once in the HoC they don't become the fodder you describe.

The town needs that. I read a speech from Galloway in the press that noted with the lack of NHS provision its no longer possibly to be born or die in Rochdale; emotive rhetoric and he will be looking to exploit that in other similar parts of the UK which are warm to the message he brings.

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NFR on 12:30 - Mar 1 with 1939 viewsEllDale

I'm not sure that Allen carries a lot of clout these days but it's an interesting notion.
There again, Labour this time round selected Ali instead of Paul Waugh. I wonder what the latter thinks about that now?
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NFR on 13:01 - Mar 1 with 1828 viewsRog_Dale

Paul Waugh has written an excellent piece in the i. Destroys galloway. https://inews.co.uk/opinion/furious-rochdale-result-labour-candidate-paul-waugh-
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NFR on 13:06 - Mar 1 with 1810 viewsTVOS1907

NFR on 06:32 - Mar 1 by kel

Thought you only lived “close to Rochdale”

My Saturday by A_Newby 27 Mar 2023 9:22
Hi Kel,

I live close to Rochdale. It would have been easier to go to Oldham, but to be honest I have never really enjoyed the atmosphere there.

I looked at all the matches I could go to, I even considered going to Wrexham vs York but chose Chesterfield as I have always enjoyed visiting there. It is easy to park, the stadium is well designed, and you get a good view of the match.

I had watched Chesterfield on TV in the Ratcliffe the week before, prior to the Dale game against Swindon and noticed that they had a striker named Quigley and that Harry Maguire’s brother also played for them.

I then read about Chesterfield and how they are a “fan owned” club but on a different model to ours so I was intrigued and wanted to see first-hand how they were doing.

Chesterfield had consecutive relegations from league 1 and league 2 and narrowly avoided a third consecutive relegation from the national league.

Then in 2020 their community trust charity (their equivalent Rochdale AFC Community Trust) with council help purchased the club to be “fan owned” and run on a breakeven basis.

They even, like the Dale, sell shares in the club to fans but are more realistic and honest about their worth.

https://chesterfield-fc.co.uk/news/buy-shares-in-chesterfield-fc



Hi kel, it could have been a different Rochdale, maybe down south somewhere...

When I was your age, I used to enjoy the odd game of tennis. Or was it golf?

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NFR on 13:22 - Mar 1 with 1753 viewsRAFCBLUE

NFR on 13:06 - Mar 1 by TVOS1907

Hi kel, it could have been a different Rochdale, maybe down south somewhere...


Or TVOS, it's possible to register more than one address for voting purposes. Some people do have more than one home these days.

https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/voting-and-elections/who-can-vote/other-r

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NFR on 13:29 - Mar 1 with 1718 viewskel

NFR on 13:06 - Mar 1 by TVOS1907

Hi kel, it could have been a different Rochdale, maybe down south somewhere...


That’s quite possible I suppose but I’ve been scratching my head on this one.

I read a lot of football forums and it’s very rare to see someone say “Hi/Good Morning <insert poster name> when replying to a poster. To have two people on the same site do it is very, very rare. Both the posters I’m thinking of like typing out very detailed replies, have a very similar posting style and seem to have a decent knowledge of clubs at this level. If you look at the thread in my post, A_Newby mentions crowds and the closing of stands like another poster on here recently did and has in the past.

What was odd though was that two posters who’ve never had avatars on here before both uploaded one on the very same day. I don’t tend to believe in coincidences and I’m not known as ‘Kelumbo’ in some circles for nothing.

It’s almost as if it’s the same person…
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NFR on 13:43 - Mar 1 with 1659 viewssweetcorn

NFR on 10:53 - Mar 1 by James1980

You were saying.


This really isn't the gotcha you think it is, considering labour didn't have a candidate on the voting ballot his point remains.

Labour will win the seat back in the general election regardless of who they parachute in as their candidate.

Leader of the little gang of immature cretins.

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NFR on 14:48 - Mar 1 with 1554 viewsJames1980

NFR on 13:43 - Mar 1 by sweetcorn

This really isn't the gotcha you think it is, considering labour didn't have a candidate on the voting ballot his point remains.

Labour will win the seat back in the general election regardless of who they parachute in as their candidate.



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NFR on 19:02 - Mar 1 with 1371 viewspioneer

NFR on 12:26 - Mar 1 by RAFCBLUE

Allen Brett was on Radio 4 this morning talking about the election. He was positive about Dave Tully, less positive about other aspects.

I wonder if there is a possibility that Dave Tully could become Labour's General Election candidate for later in this year?

The local agenda needs a quality local voice but with mainstream support so that once in the HoC they don't become the fodder you describe.

The town needs that. I read a speech from Galloway in the press that noted with the lack of NHS provision its no longer possibly to be born or die in Rochdale; emotive rhetoric and he will be looking to exploit that in other similar parts of the UK which are warm to the message he brings.


If GG is right and its impossible to die in Rochdale I am moving back.
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NFR on 19:17 - Mar 1 with 1325 viewsD_Alien

NFR on 19:02 - Mar 1 by pioneer

If GG is right and its impossible to die in Rochdale I am moving back.


You'll be disappointed. Just try crossing the road at any of the junctions where traffic lights are routinely ignored and your search for immortality will be over
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