| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 19:06 - Jan 2 with 7268 views | mart_Goblin |
There isn’t much more to say is there except this lot are a serious threat to our mental health.
Absolutely sick to f*cking death of losing.
Good report Clive. |  | |  |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 19:06 - Jan 2 with 7217 views | stainrods_elbow |
Deeply depressing and, paradoxically, bleakly uplifting. Your last paragraph is, for me, the serrated knife into our barely twitching corpse - under MC, the apparent Ipswich false dawn notwithstanding, we actually seem to be regressing in recent weeks. At any rate, he doesn't appear to have the players who can, understand, or want to to play the way he seems to be trying to establish, or his methods are failing atrociously, or both. I also found it mystifying in his shellshocked-looking post-Cardiff interview when he spoke boastfully/defiantly of how his set pieces have always been a strong suit at all his other clubs. Join the dots for us, Marti - after all, we only pay your players' wages - and shed some light on why that's not happening here, there's a good chap! I know you've only been in situ a couple of months, but what in the name of every footballing manual ever published are 'your guys' working on in training? They're obviously not working on, ooh, attacking set pieces, defending set pieces, creating space/opportunities, getting in the faces of opponents, passing forwards more than 10 yards, passing diagonally more than 10 yards, shooting, crossing, showing for the ball, or game management. Or if they are, their work isn't working. It's almost like being schooled in how not to play the game at any level, and these are supposedly pro footballers who've trained all their lives for this.
Though it wasn't all unutterably bad (OK, for about 20 minutes), and we could have got at least a draw against a very get at-able Cardiff, we lacked the nous, hunger and craft, and that first half has to go down as the most funereal non-performance by a QPR team in many a year. It stank of resignation and relegation in equal measure. If anything, I feel even more horrorstruck by it today than while I was watching it.
Our performances and results this month will go a long way to deciding our fate. Three wins, minimum, will restore a degree of faith. I hope to all the ball-playing angels these players can surprise all us with 'something' and this coaching team can inculcate some kind of professionalism before it all goes mathematically and/or morale-wise tits up. If I hold my breath, though, I'd put money right now on my premature death! Nevertheless, we're fans, and we have to hope and hold this group accountable. [Post edited 3 Jan 8:48]
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 19:08 - Jan 2 with 7251 views | Philothesuperhoop |
Thanks Clive…spot on but very,very depressing.
I like Marti C and think he is doing what he can but the squad is just soooo thin.
Unfortunately this is the first time I left being certain that we are definitely going down unless we get three or four quality loans or buys through the door before the next league game.
For once I hope he completely forgets the FA Cup and just plays the kids. We simply can’t afford more injuries.
By the way I actually think Dykes is getting worse and not better.
It is pathetic that I’m so emotionally invested in this bloody team….ill,be gutted when they go down, and I now can’t see anything else but that happening. |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 19:47 - Jan 2 with 7075 views | NewYorkRanger |
It’s criminal what’s happening here. In most private companies the investors hold the board and the management to account. And if performance is below par, changes are made.
One of the many problems we face as a club is that out investors can’t or won’t hold themselves accountable. And they also don’t know anything about football. Look at Birmingham as a great recent example of what happens when people with no football experience take over the running of the club.
Yeserday was at least as bad as some of the earlier season performances under Ainsworth. And yet, my 11 year old daughter wants to go on Saturday! How can I tell her….. |  |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 20:14 - Jan 2 with 6927 views | ManinBlack |
I said in another thread that anyone who loses 4-0 at home to Blackburn deserves to go down. Rotherham managed a draw at Ewood yesterday where we always lose. It has been a terrible holiday period with 11 points lost in four games.
I am resigned to us going down with a whimper. The key point in recent matches has been the poor quality of opponents beating us. Sheffield, Millwall and Cardiff were truly dire but still did enough to score two goals which will always be good enough to defeat us as we can't even average a goal a game. Millwall are now out of sight with three consecutive wins without conceding a goal. They might be a bad side but their players have much better mental and fighting quality than we could ever muster.
Panic buying this month is probably likely to saddle us with more bad eggs in terms of injury prone, mentally weak and can't be bothered types as other clubs unload their problem players. There is no way I can see us picking up any quality in January. Any decent type will probably be out of our price and wage range. |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 20:18 - Jan 2 with 6882 views | Wilkinswatercarrier |
I am actually starting to hate this team. I'm not going for a few weeks now, I'm sick of the lot of them. |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 20:32 - Jan 2 with 6817 views | Dorse |
Fcuk me, Norf. That 'hymen' line nearly killed me.
Didn't suffer through this one due to an outbreak of sociability - sounds like I dodged a bullet the size of King Kong's cock. |  |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 21:13 - Jan 2 with 6653 views | BushRanger82 |
Depressingly familiar report of yet another dire home game against weak opposition.
We must stop this farcicle playing out from the back shite. We are absolute shite at doing it. The fekin ball should have been in their half when the second goal went in.
If Asmir needs to practise his goal kicks, then do it, and start taking more of them.
They were even doing this playing out the back shite during injury time!
Just get the ball in the opponents half as quickly as possible, Rangers.
It’s not fekin rocket science, is it?
Well, maybe to us, it is! |  | | |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 21:24 - Jan 2 with 6611 views | mart_Goblin |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 20:14 - Jan 2 by ManinBlack |
I said in another thread that anyone who loses 4-0 at home to Blackburn deserves to go down. Rotherham managed a draw at Ewood yesterday where we always lose. It has been a terrible holiday period with 11 points lost in four games.
I am resigned to us going down with a whimper. The key point in recent matches has been the poor quality of opponents beating us. Sheffield, Millwall and Cardiff were truly dire but still did enough to score two goals which will always be good enough to defeat us as we can't even average a goal a game. Millwall are now out of sight with three consecutive wins without conceding a goal. They might be a bad side but their players have much better mental and fighting quality than we could ever muster.
Panic buying this month is probably likely to saddle us with more bad eggs in terms of injury prone, mentally weak and can't be bothered types as other clubs unload their problem players. There is no way I can see us picking up any quality in January. Any decent type will probably be out of our price and wage range. |
Your final paragraph is scary yet absolutely spot on | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 22:57 - Jan 2 with 6226 views | BrisbaneR |
Even through having to write about that, you made me laugh out loud - you are a hilarious angry man Clive. And while I like laughing, I wish you didn't have so much to be angry about. | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 01:28 - Jan 3 with 6019 views | jtuck |
The contrast between Dunne and Dickie is interesting. Dickie has played almost every game for Bristol City. And while he may have played abysmally for us last season, maybe it was us not him. Dunne I think is the real deal: just not a very. talented performer. Also, another thought: our loans did contribute to the festering toxic atmosphere but looks like our own dead wood was just as poisonous last season. Clearout needed, hopefully after surviving relegation in wholly undeserved way. [Post edited 3 Jan 1:31]
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 08:42 - Jan 3 with 5684 views | TheChef |
Cheers Clive, top stuff as ever.
If you didn't laugh you'd cry. |  |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 08:44 - Jan 3 with 5677 views | TheChef |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 01:28 - Jan 3 by jtuck |
The contrast between Dunne and Dickie is interesting. Dickie has played almost every game for Bristol City. And while he may have played abysmally for us last season, maybe it was us not him. Dunne I think is the real deal: just not a very. talented performer. Also, another thought: our loans did contribute to the festering toxic atmosphere but looks like our own dead wood was just as poisonous last season. Clearout needed, hopefully after surviving relegation in wholly undeserved way. [Post edited 3 Jan 1:31]
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Thing is I think nearly any footballer inevitably looks better in a team that wins and is doing well.
The test of character is when you're in the shit and need to roll your sleeves up. Unfortunately barely any of our players are capable of doing that. | |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 08:46 - Jan 3 with 5663 views | QPunkR |
What a depressing read. Not the writing, of course, that is absolutely top notch and bang-on as always!
Back in the UK for Christmas, I am so, so glad I decided to sack off the game both in person and even on a stream. Still got psised off reading the updates on our match fred, but at least it didn't cost me any money. Like Clive said in his report, it was blindingly obvious to all but the very happiest of clappers that this squad would phone in this kind of rank turd against pss weak opposition a few days after an improved performance which also failed to deliver three points. We've seen this bunch do exactly the same for a long, long time now |  |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 08:55 - Jan 3 with 5625 views | QPunkR |
Oh, and that line on Dykes was absolute perfection, Clive!! | |
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| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 10:32 - Jan 3 with 5401 views | robith |
Mad that I missed the game cos I had food poisoning and had a better time than everyone that went to the match |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:10 - Jan 3 with 5311 views | ParkRoyalR |
Kolli deserving MOTM Award if only for showing its all about your end product, get the ball out from your feet quickly and get it into the box quickly, and good to see we are now getting at least 2 attackers in the box as Smyth has been attacking the back-post well in the last two games.
With Fox likely in for the yet again injured Clarke Salter who has been very poor defensively in his last 3 games, the midfield will be critical in forthcoming games.
Larkeche (more defensive minded) & Kolli (more offensive minded) do at least give Cifuentes the option to move Chair into the middle which could be key.
There's still hope. | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:51 - Jan 3 with 5197 views | thehat |
"about as welcome as a Young Conservatives float at the Notting Hill Carnival"
Thank you Clive for your magnificent humorous writing it really helps get us through a very depressing period supporting our club.
Neil Critchley was spot on and Gareth for all his faults tried to install some mental strength into these players but they really are pathetic wimps.
As I said before we are down and the plan for the rebuild in League 1 should start now not pissing more money up the wall signing expensive loan players who will join the rot and just go through the motions.
Still can't believe how well the attendances have held up. It really is fantastic support from our fans. | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:52 - Jan 3 with 5192 views | Northernr |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:10 - Jan 3 by ParkRoyalR |
Kolli deserving MOTM Award if only for showing its all about your end product, get the ball out from your feet quickly and get it into the box quickly, and good to see we are now getting at least 2 attackers in the box as Smyth has been attacking the back-post well in the last two games.
With Fox likely in for the yet again injured Clarke Salter who has been very poor defensively in his last 3 games, the midfield will be critical in forthcoming games.
Larkeche (more defensive minded) & Kolli (more offensive minded) do at least give Cifuentes the option to move Chair into the middle which could be key.
There's still hope. |
There really isn’t. This is going to get worse mark my words. |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:56 - Jan 3 with 5171 views | ParkRoyalR |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:52 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
There really isn’t. This is going to get worse mark my words. |
If we don't ditch Dozzell, zonal-marking and move Chair into the middle, I agree. | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:06 - Jan 3 with 5145 views | Northernr |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:56 - Jan 3 by ParkRoyalR |
If we don't ditch Dozzell, zonal-marking and move Chair into the middle, I agree. |
Do all of those three things if you like, it's not going to make a difference.
The culture at the club is rotten, the standards around the place don't exist.
The team is not very good to start with and their collective attitude towards being here and playing for QPR is disgusting.
Once again we've got players going down with "calf knock, nothing too serious, outside chance for next week" and disappearing for months.
We've got others, Richards, disappearing without even that excuse.
I said it last week and I'll keep saying it, the threads on here about poor substitutions, poor team selections, poor post match interviews are nuts. Two years, five managers, no change. This is not a problem that can be solved by playing somebody else in the centre of midfield or having somebody else take the corners.
I know this'll fall on deaf ears. Another couple of games and it'll be "should have got Warnock in when we had the chance, do it now before it's too late". | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:06 - Jan 3 with 5144 views | daveB |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 11:52 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
There really isn’t. This is going to get worse mark my words. |
the only hope is with new players, this lot are not keeping us up, same as 2021 and going back further the John Gregory season |  | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:09 - Jan 3 with 5139 views | Northernr |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:06 - Jan 3 by daveB |
the only hope is with new players, this lot are not keeping us up, same as 2021 and going back further the John Gregory season |
I agree, we're entirely reliant on that. But given that we're now operating with the DOF, CEO and chairman all as one person.
We've got next to no money.
We've got a toxic environment.
We're bottom of the Championship.
How are we identifying the targets, and what calibre, quality and character of player is going to want to come here this January? | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:25 - Jan 3 with 5071 views | ParkRoyalR |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:06 - Jan 3 by Northernr |
Do all of those three things if you like, it's not going to make a difference.
The culture at the club is rotten, the standards around the place don't exist.
The team is not very good to start with and their collective attitude towards being here and playing for QPR is disgusting.
Once again we've got players going down with "calf knock, nothing too serious, outside chance for next week" and disappearing for months.
We've got others, Richards, disappearing without even that excuse.
I said it last week and I'll keep saying it, the threads on here about poor substitutions, poor team selections, poor post match interviews are nuts. Two years, five managers, no change. This is not a problem that can be solved by playing somebody else in the centre of midfield or having somebody else take the corners.
I know this'll fall on deaf ears. Another couple of games and it'll be "should have got Warnock in when we had the chance, do it now before it's too late". |
I agree on the culture and standards at the club,
I said previously the reason Warburton was key was not necessarily his coaching or management skills but he was someone who had worked hard all his life, early starts, late finishes, dressed for service etc, similar to an Ange Postecoglou, and in a club owned by the sons (or son-in-laws) of wealthy men, someone needed to fill the void, show leadership a work ethic and set some minimum standards.
Every home game I walk past a member of the back-of-house team (who's not a temp) and let just say 'she/he' is always, always, leaning on a shelf and sat on one's arse, in full view of the senior management of the club.
In my firm, that just would not happen twice, let alone every home game. | | | |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 12:35 - Jan 3 with 5040 views | Rangers67 |
| The season of evil begins with the birth of a new year – Report on 19:06 - Jan 2 by stainrods_elbow |
Deeply depressing and, paradoxically, bleakly uplifting. Your last paragraph is, for me, the serrated knife into our barely twitching corpse - under MC, the apparent Ipswich false dawn notwithstanding, we actually seem to be regressing in recent weeks. At any rate, he doesn't appear to have the players who can, understand, or want to to play the way he seems to be trying to establish, or his methods are failing atrociously, or both. I also found it mystifying in his shellshocked-looking post-Cardiff interview when he spoke boastfully/defiantly of how his set pieces have always been a strong suit at all his other clubs. Join the dots for us, Marti - after all, we only pay your players' wages - and shed some light on why that's not happening here, there's a good chap! I know you've only been in situ a couple of months, but what in the name of every footballing manual ever published are 'your guys' working on in training? They're obviously not working on, ooh, attacking set pieces, defending set pieces, creating space/opportunities, getting in the faces of opponents, passing forwards more than 10 yards, passing diagonally more than 10 yards, shooting, crossing, showing for the ball, or game management. Or if they are, their work isn't working. It's almost like being schooled in how not to play the game at any level, and these are supposedly pro footballers who've trained all their lives for this.
Though it wasn't all unutterably bad (OK, for about 20 minutes), and we could have got at least a draw against a very get at-able Cardiff, we lacked the nous, hunger and craft, and that first half has to go down as the most funereal non-performance by a QPR team in many a year. It stank of resignation and relegation in equal measure. If anything, I feel even more horrorstruck by it today than while I was watching it.
Our performances and results this month will go a long way to deciding our fate. Three wins, minimum, will restore a degree of faith. I hope to all the ball-playing angels these players can surprise all us with 'something' and this coaching team can inculcate some kind of professionalism before it all goes mathematically and/or morale-wise tits up. If I hold my breath, though, I'd put money right now on my premature death! Nevertheless, we're fans, and we have to hope and hold this group accountable. [Post edited 3 Jan 8:48]
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