| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm 18:54 - Jun 1 with 62986 views | RAFCBLUE |
A beautiful evening this evening at Spotland for one of the most eagerly anticipated fixtures of the season.
Team news when we have it, but the Board are expected to play a flat back 5.
Zoom is filling up nicely with many in attendance. |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 09:39 - Jun 3 with 4454 views | ChaffRAFC |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 08:11 - Jun 3 by LeeBrookfield |
Kieran Maguire has confirmed on the price of football podcast, he has been contacted by people in the media confirming Matt Southall and Glenn Thomas interest in Rochdale and are being looked on favourably by the board.
Buckle in, this will be horrific if this board get their way, could be the end of our club and I don't think I am exaggerating sadly.
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I think we need clarification whether this is true. Any truth in this will see all trust in any of the current board being lost, not just the two we've now managed to remove.
Alarming doesn't begin to describe that!
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 09:46 - Jun 3 with 4396 views | DaleFan7 |
If this is true then no wonder they put forward the motions they did, no shareholder in their right mind would even think about entertaining this. |  | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 09:46 - Jun 3 with 4399 views | Salegraham |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 08:11 - Jun 3 by LeeBrookfield |
Kieran Maguire has confirmed on the price of football podcast, he has been contacted by people in the media confirming Matt Southall and Glenn Thomas interest in Rochdale and are being looked on favourably by the board.
Buckle in, this will be horrific if this board get their way, could be the end of our club and I don't think I am exaggerating sadly.
UpTheDale |
Most probably the reason for the non disclosure agreement !? | | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 10:19 - Jun 3 with 4250 views | tony_roch975 |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 23:50 - Jun 2 by rochedale |
You’d have thought the club would have brought out a statement of some kind today. I’d have loved to have been a fly on the wall(s) today inside the stadium offices. I wonder what is going on and what the statement, if any, will say… |
well one thing is that yesterday someone at the Club informed Companies House of the GR & DB terminations of appointment - very efficient communications (for once). | |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 10:37 - Jun 3 with 4146 views | SuddenLad |
This can't be serious. Rumours of Glenn Thomas et. al. interest must surely be somebody being mischievous? I can't believe for one minute that anyone involved in running a football club, who has an ounce of respect, especially for our club and any common sense would even open an e-mail from these two toxic entities, let alone get themselves into any kind of conversation.
Rather than speaking to these kind of sharks, we should be taking out injunctions to prevent them (or their representatives) ever getting into conversations with anyone involved in the business side of the club.
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 10:53 - Jun 3 with 4100 views | DaleiLama |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 10:37 - Jun 3 by SuddenLad |
This can't be serious. Rumours of Glenn Thomas et. al. interest must surely be somebody being mischievous? I can't believe for one minute that anyone involved in running a football club, who has an ounce of respect, especially for our club and any common sense would even open an e-mail from these two toxic entities, let alone get themselves into any kind of conversation.
Rather than speaking to these kind of sharks, we should be taking out injunctions to prevent them (or their representatives) ever getting into conversations with anyone involved in the business side of the club.
Frying pan and fire is an understatement. |
What could possibly go wrong?
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 11:05 - Jun 3 with 4044 views | ChaffRAFC |
Noticeable that Dan Altman is linked with Glenn Thomas but no directors from the club are.
Nobody other than one of our players is linked with Matt Southall.
Although it means little, that does at least make me feel slightly better. | |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 11:27 - Jun 3 with 3946 views | tony_roch975 |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 11:05 - Jun 3 by ChaffRAFC |
Noticeable that Dan Altman is linked with Glenn Thomas but no directors from the club are.
Nobody other than one of our players is linked with Matt Southall.
Although it means little, that does at least make me feel slightly better. |
Interesting Chaff - is that another reason to be wary of the Dan Altman approach? | |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 11:31 - Jun 3 with 3921 views | fermin |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 02:56 - Jun 3 by Shun |
Also I’ve just seen a Councillor Edward Lord say how proud he feels to have played a part in last night’s events. Can’t say I’m too familiar with him. Is he a Dale fan? |
In the 1980s at a shareholder meeting a teenager called Edward Lord told Tommy Cannon that he didn't own any shares in his own name and therefore couldn't sell off Spotland to line his own pockets. The shares were in his wife's name and she was not at the meeting. I think I have the story right. This almost certainly saved the club from oblivion.
https://www.comedykings.co.uk/index.php/rochdale-fc/ |  | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 12:03 - Jun 3 with 3791 views | R17ALE |
It'll be interesting to see how long* the OS top story remains the desperate plea to vote our proposals through tonight story!
Any self-effacing group would have erased that story first thing!
And, the begging email sent by the club to The Trust hours before the meeting, followed a similar tone. It was painful to read!
*1 hour later it's replaced!! [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 13:50]
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 12:18 - Jun 3 with 3716 views | DaleiLama |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 12:03 - Jun 3 by R17ALE |
It'll be interesting to see how long* the OS top story remains the desperate plea to vote our proposals through tonight story!
Any self-effacing group would have erased that story first thing!
And, the begging email sent by the club to The Trust hours before the meeting, followed a similar tone. It was painful to read!
*1 hour later it's replaced!! [Post edited 3 Jun 2021 13:50]
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Or how long the story of Nick Grindrod being appointed as a Director will fail to mention that the necessary shares to become a Director were acquired through a private transfer - a method the club actively disapproves of. | |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 12:27 - Jun 3 with 3660 views | D_Alien |
Let's face it, all members of the current regime have been humiliated, both professionally and no doubt personally; also financially in all likelihood
How they react in terms of the welfare of the club from this point until they're no longer in a position to be able to do is anyone's guess, and the situation is obviously volatile
It was a necessary flushing out by shareholders on Tuesday night, but it appears there are still floaters capable of making a stink |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 12:27 - Jun 3 with 3659 views | JPSDale |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 11:31 - Jun 3 by fermin |
In the 1980s at a shareholder meeting a teenager called Edward Lord told Tommy Cannon that he didn't own any shares in his own name and therefore couldn't sell off Spotland to line his own pockets. The shares were in his wife's name and she was not at the meeting. I think I have the story right. This almost certainly saved the club from oblivion.
https://www.comedykings.co.uk/index.php/rochdale-fc/ |
Perhaps Mark Hodkinson could write a sequel to The Overcoat Men - Tracksuit Man and the Boy Wonder, to provide another perspective on who did what in the past.
It took a young boy to stop Tommy Cannon and Tracksuit Man Butterworth certainly got my vote over the Overcoats in this weeks proceedings
As "Custodians" all the major shareholders of the club who dont wish to sit on the Board and play a formal active role should be looking to move their shares on to new owners. Its this that has played a large part in creating a vacuum of leadership that has presented opportunities to the vultures that are rumoured to be circling our Club | | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 13:38 - Jun 3 with 3425 views | rochedale |
Is that it??
“ we cannot compete and thrive without the injection of significant amounts of money that are not currently available to us”. We’ve do ok so far haven’t we? |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 13:39 - Jun 3 with 3414 views | D_Alien |
I'll have more faith in what they have to say when they stop using the "elite level of football" bollox, which was a term deriving from a particular situation arising from the Covid governance issues last year
The Premier League is the elite level. The rest is the Football League. Call it as it is, and stop using terms which make you look big to yourselves, but preening idiots to everyone else
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 13:45 - Jun 3 with 3371 views | 442Dale |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 13:39 - Jun 3 by D_Alien |
I'll have more faith in what they have to say when they stop using the "elite level of football" bollox, which was a term deriving from a particular situation arising from the Covid governance issues last year
The Premier League is the elite level. The rest is the Football League. Call it as it is, and stop using terms which make you look big to yourselves, but preening idiots to everyone else
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Morecambe managed to compete ok and get promoted from Elite Level 2 to Elite Level 1.
Quite remarkable. Up there with reinventing the wheel. Elite wheels. |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 15:24 - Jun 3 with 3090 views | mikehunt |
I don’t feel we need to worry too much about the Altman approach now. He had his say on Tuesday and said that he would use his own funds to purchase the relevant amount of shares and not use the club to leverage any further finance. He also stated that he would be happy to present his plans to the shareholders and answer any questions.
Can’t say fairer than that really.
By the way did anybody notice whose Dale shirt he had framed and hanging on the wall behind him (blue and black striped so I assume it was Dale) Think it had a 13 or 18 on it.
Was he trying too hard with that? Maybe , but at least he was trying and not trying to bamboozle us with before and after pictures of Reading, Doncaster and Fleetwood’s grounds. Pathetic. How out of touch could you be regarding the basic requirements of the football club and its supporters. |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 15:26 - Jun 3 with 3084 views | finberty |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 13:45 - Jun 3 by 442Dale |
Morecambe managed to compete ok and get promoted from Elite Level 2 to Elite Level 1.
Quite remarkable. Up there with reinventing the wheel. Elite wheels. |
Agreed 442.
Although possibly helped mightily by them understanding they were in a competition, in which points can be won, leading to promising positions in something called a league table.
Down at the CoA, our man claimed never to look at such a thing. Nor, from the surrounding urgency that didn't occur, did our esteemed board.
It might have helped. |  | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 16:06 - Jun 3 with 2959 views | tony_roch975 |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 15:24 - Jun 3 by mikehunt |
I don’t feel we need to worry too much about the Altman approach now. He had his say on Tuesday and said that he would use his own funds to purchase the relevant amount of shares and not use the club to leverage any further finance. He also stated that he would be happy to present his plans to the shareholders and answer any questions.
Can’t say fairer than that really.
By the way did anybody notice whose Dale shirt he had framed and hanging on the wall behind him (blue and black striped so I assume it was Dale) Think it had a 13 or 18 on it.
Was he trying too hard with that? Maybe , but at least he was trying and not trying to bamboozle us with before and after pictures of Reading, Doncaster and Fleetwood’s grounds. Pathetic. How out of touch could you be regarding the basic requirements of the football club and its supporters. |
Yes, he's a sharp negotiator and had read the situation well and supported what would be the 'winning' position - a tactically astute move. But the questions about whether their investment would better suit the Club than CD or Morris' 4 names or protecting the ground etc in the event they had majority control would still need asking. He made sure their potential bid wouldn't be written off by the fans as several other names have (rightly) been on the Forum and elsewhere in recent days. | |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 17:10 - Jun 3 with 2797 views | JPSDale |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 16:06 - Jun 3 by tony_roch975 |
Yes, he's a sharp negotiator and had read the situation well and supported what would be the 'winning' position - a tactically astute move. But the questions about whether their investment would better suit the Club than CD or Morris' 4 names or protecting the ground etc in the event they had majority control would still need asking. He made sure their potential bid wouldn't be written off by the fans as several other names have (rightly) been on the Forum and elsewhere in recent days. |
The "Morris 4" is a very interesting point.
GM resigned as a Director of the club in 2010, thats 11 years ago, during which time he has not managed to find a future custodian for his shares. Then all of a sudden he has 4 possible Director candidates... seems strange to me that during 11 principally good years these people did not come forward, but now times are tough, GM is able to promote them as possible Directors. The must be true Dale Fans
GM and his era paid £0.50 for their shares, the going rate seems to be between £2 and £6 depending on who you are dealing with. As and when deals go through I hope these custodians are transparent about the selling price and what happens to the "profit", perhaps they could give it back to the club. As Custodians I'm sure they wont want to profit from their passion / hobby.
The same question goes for CD who potentially made a large profit from the sale of his shares to the American Shareholders, but this seems to be forgotten. Transparency Please.
If more shares are not to be issued ( good IMO ) there must be a succession plan on the existing shareholding. If shareholders simply wish to own shares but not participate in the managing of the club, its a long road to a slow death as we have no energy or strategy in the Boardroom with the necessary shareholding to drive things forward, or the ability to "Manage" the employed executives and staff.
This week has demonstrated that the Shareholders run the Club as that's the Company Law that we must abide by, and those same Shareholders who protected the Club also have a responsibility for provide a platform to move forward, which might / probably will involve them moving the share on to Custodians New.
New Money might not be available, but surely New Blood ( preferably Blue !) is. | | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 18:36 - Jun 3 with 2596 views | wozzrafc |
Sorry but the point about Graham Morris is absolute garbage!!
He has put far more money into the club over the years than the initial amount, and if he was just interested in making a profit then I’m sure he’d have done it years ago.
He was involved in the work that uncovered some of the issues around the supposed deal to sell the club on Tuesday.
If Graham Morris has personally vouched for these 4 then rest assured they will be trust worthy.
Having saved the club he loves from extinction with killie all those years back and then put over 30 years graft why the hell would he risk it for a few pounds. | | | |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 18:49 - Jun 3 with 2545 views | fitzochris |
| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 18:36 - Jun 3 by wozzrafc |
Sorry but the point about Graham Morris is absolute garbage!!
He has put far more money into the club over the years than the initial amount, and if he was just interested in making a profit then I’m sure he’d have done it years ago.
He was involved in the work that uncovered some of the issues around the supposed deal to sell the club on Tuesday.
If Graham Morris has personally vouched for these 4 then rest assured they will be trust worthy.
Having saved the club he loves from extinction with killie all those years back and then put over 30 years graft why the hell would he risk it for a few pounds. |
Bang on. |  |
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| AGM / EGM /AGM / EGM Match update thread - kick off 7pm on 20:26 - Jun 3 with 2326 views | off2div1 |
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