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Trump you idiot 13:43 - Dec 25 with 4355 viewscentrestandswan

Hope your pensions are in good hands as this tw.at could ruin every ones investments and savings, a new recession? F..ucking hope not.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/money/markets/japan-stocks-plunge-other-asia-markets-f

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Trump you idiot on 20:12 - Dec 25 with 1307 viewslonglostjack

The money grabbing idiot has gone beyond a joke. Collusion by Luke Harding a good read. Well done Vlad.

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Trump you idiot on 20:17 - Dec 25 with 1297 viewsvalleyboy

Trump you idiot on 15:49 - Dec 25 by A_Fans_Dad

Let me lay it out for you.
Under Obama interest rates were kept at 0.25% for 7 years until December 2015 when it was raised to 0.5%.
Since Trump won the election
0.75% on December 14, 2016
1.0% on March 5, 2017.
1.25% on June 14, 2017.
1.5% on Dec. 13, 2017.
1.75% on March 21, 2018.
2.0% on June 13, 2018.
2.25% on September 26, 2018.
And has now announced that it will raise the rate to 3.0% the largest rise so far.
It has already wiped $4Trillion off of the markets.
How did you expect the US & World markets to react to the new announcement?


There was a very good reason in why interest rates were kept so low for seven years and had nothing to do really with Obama

It was because of the financial crash and that’s why I said it had nothing really to do with Obama as he had only been in office for 15 months when it happened so it was to some extent out of his control

Some will say that he should have done something to have stopped the crash, but the troubles that caused the crash had been brewing for many years before he took office

Now the reason the Fed is raising interest rates is because the American economy is running away with itself, so something had to be done

The same would happen in this country if our economy started to grow to fast

Mind you I don’t see that happening for years to come
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Trump you idiot on 20:31 - Dec 25 with 1275 viewsShaky

Trump you idiot on 19:42 - Dec 25 by LeonWasGod

Strictly speaking, that’s you copying and pasting someone else’s forecast back in June


You don't seem to have made it far enough down the thread to read where I dispute the otherwise quite brilliant former FT Markets editor Gillian Tett's conclusion on the timing and specifically call for an autumn panic.

Then stick to my guns some months later when the market was soaring.

Just saying.

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Trump you idiot on 22:48 - Dec 25 with 1223 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump you idiot on 15:41 - Dec 25 by centrestandswan

And this is why people are deserting this site , discuss your point no have to resort to insults, says a lot. It is a good job your taste in music is OK but that is another story.


Spot on! That guy is the worse offender.
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Trump you idiot on 23:03 - Dec 25 with 1211 viewsWarwickHunt

Trump you idiot on 22:48 - Dec 25 by controversial_jack

Spot on! That guy is the worse offender.


*Worst* - you semi-literate div.
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Trump you idiot on 23:18 - Dec 25 with 1195 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump you idiot on 23:03 - Dec 25 by WarwickHunt

*Worst* - you semi-literate div.


Got him!
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Trump you idiot on 23:41 - Dec 25 with 1175 viewsWarwickHunt

Trump you idiot on 23:18 - Dec 25 by controversial_jack

Got him!


Fûck me - you’re thick.
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Trump you idiot on 08:46 - Dec 26 with 1108 viewsDrizzy

Trump you idiot on 23:03 - Dec 25 by WarwickHunt

*Worst* - you semi-literate div.


Couldn't even have a day off correcting people's spelling on Christmas day.

Sad!

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Trump you idiot on 11:42 - Dec 26 with 1064 viewscontroversial_jack

Trump you idiot on 08:46 - Dec 26 by Drizzy

Couldn't even have a day off correcting people's spelling on Christmas day.

Sad!


His dictionary never has a day off
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Trump you idiot on 12:20 - Dec 26 with 1039 viewsShaky

US Interest rate chart:



Key
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- Blue line: Fed Funds rate
- Purple: 3 month Treasury bill rate
- Red: 1 year treasury bond rate
- Green: 10 year Treasury Bond rate

The dashed Line is election day 2016 when Trump was elected. Notice how the long term market interest rate as indicated by the 10 year bond rate shot up then.

However, the 1-year rate had already been rising steadily through 2015, even as the Fed held rates at historic lows. Nothing too alarming at that stage, but the market was forcing the Fed's hand.

When investors sell treasury bonds in the process driving interest rates higher, they are not required to fill out slips saying what has caused them to sell.

It could be they fear future inflation will eat into their real returns. Or it could be they perceive increasing political risk from say government shutdowns,and ultimately credit default.

However, whatever the reason, the risk premium that sophisticated global investors have demanded for owning debt as printed by the Trump administration has rocketed. This is a fact not open for debate.

It is also a fact that there is misguided but popular stock market valuation model in use referred to as 'the Fed model' that says the higher the interest rate, the lower the value of stocks.

Draw your own conclusions.

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Trump you idiot on 13:27 - Dec 26 with 1017 viewsShaky

. . .and for comparison here is the prior rate hike cycle, again showing how the market leads and the Fed follows (this time with a semi-log scale)


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Trump you idiot on 00:36 - Dec 27 with 950 viewswobbly

Trump you idiot on 16:11 - Dec 25 by A_Fans_Dad

Classic, blame Trump for what the Fed has done, just like the OP.
How well do you think Bank rate rises of 2.5% in 2 years would go down in the UK if Carney of the BoE did it?


Huge congratulations to the Fed for orchestrating yesterday’s 1,000 point rise in the Dow.
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