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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ 05:28 - Jan 22 with 15062 viewsbaits

Ki's dad reveals the story behind Swansea's loaning out Ki and not getting him back.

http://sports.news.naver.com/sports/index.nhn?category=worldfootball&ctg=news&mo



기성용은 지난해 여름 스완지에서 선덜랜드로 1년 임대 이적을 했다. 그는 선덜랜드에서 곧바로 자리를 잡았고 중추적인 역할을 하고 있다. 반면 스완지는 기성용의 공백 후유증을 뼈저리게 느끼고 있다. 스완지의 지난 시즌 일으켰던 돌풍은 이미 사라진 상태다.
Ki had joined Swansea side last summer and this season he was loaned out to Sunderland for one full season.

Ki feels that he is considered to be playing an important part to get Sunderland going based on Poyet's firm support towards him.

However, Swansea is struggling unlike the last season, as they struggle to organise the team spirit as one, and due to unexpected late injuries of their first team players.

Young-Oak Ki(Ki's dad) who is in charge of Korean football association of Gwangju city.

reveals that Laudrup has mistakenly abandoned Ki for ridiculous speculations of his own.

"Many think that Laudrup is the one who sent Ki away to Sunderland, but it is definitely not the case" says Young-Oak Ki

"The contract made by both Ki and Swansea includes a clause that the player will be guaranteed to play the least 20 games as a starter which Ki himself wanted and included."

"The Chelsea game was his 20th game playing as a starter, and this is the game he resulted in heavy injury on his thigh. Ki told Laudrup that he would like to treat his injury in the Korean National Medical Centre as he precisely judged the facilities there are much better than those in the club medical centre."

"Ki added that he is convinced that the medical system would help him recover more efficiently as the national football team doctor of South Korea advised him that way."

"However, Laudrup mistakenly believed that Ki was trying to make a lame excuse after his 20th game of him being starter so as to slack off as much as he can. That inconsiderate thought of Laudrup led him to disliking Ki."

"Laudrup then approved Ki of his suggestion and let him go get treated in Korea.
And Ki believed Laudrup fully understood what he told him and took it to his heart with gratitude"

"When Ki came back, Laudrup brought in new players at his position and started ignoring him and excluding him from game to game. and this continued for a while."

"Ki realised something was wrong, and he asked Laudrup why he can't play as a regular starter. Laudrup said to Ki that he isn't trustworthy as a professional footballer and avoided Ki in any direct conversations."

"When Swansea tested out players' stamina, Ki was rated the 4th of the whole first team squad, yet Laudrup kept making excuses that he is not fully ready or Ki has to win his position by sheer competition."

"Ki outran those competitors in the training yet, Laudrup didn't give him a glance."

"The reason why Swansea didn't get Ki back was due to Laudrup's own objection toward the plan, yet the club unlike Laudrup, wants to keep Ki in a long run."

"Swansea offered an extension in Ki's contract with better clauses but Ki was obviously worried about Laudrup's dislike of him. So Ki is being cautious"



기영옥 회장에 따르면 기성용은 스완지 입단 당시 20경기 ì„ ë°œ 출장 옵션이 있었고, 첼시전이 20번째 ì„ ë°œ 경기였다. 기성용은 첼시전에서 허벅지를 다쳤고, 스완지보다 대표팀 의료 시설이 좋다고 판단해 “한국에서 치료를 받고 월드컵 예선에 ë›°ê³  싶다”ê³  요청했다.

하지만 라우드럽 감독은 기성용이 선발 출장 옵션을 다 채우니 꾀병을 앓는다고 오해했다.

그리고 기성용이 7월말 스완지에 복귀를 하니 ì¡´ì¡° 셀비를 비롯해서 다수의 미드필더가 보강되어 있었다. 이를 본 기성용은 라우드럽 감독이 마음의 정리를 í•œ 것으로 판단했다. 기영옥 회장은 “성용이가 스완지 복귀 후 ì²´ë ¥ 테스트에서 ì „ì²´ 4위를 했는데 경기는 후반에나 넣어주었다. 그래서 성용이가 라우드럽 감독과 면담했다. 아파서 뒤늦게 복귀한 '데 구즈만'은 선발로 넣고 몸이 좋아진 자신은 왜 안 넣어주느냐고. 라우드럽 감독은 경쟁을 해야 한다고 답했다”ê³  당시 상황을 설명했다.

이어 기영옥 회장은 “성용이가 '선발로 기용하지 않으려면 임대를 보내달라'ê³  요청했다”ë©´ì„œ “라우드럽 감독은 임대는 클럽 소관이라며 회피했다”ê³  덧붙였다.

이후 기성용은 스완지 회장과의 ë©´ë‹´ 등을 통해 선덜랜드로 임대를 떠나게 됐다. 현재 스완지는 기성용에게 재계약을 요청하고 있지만, 기성용은 난색을 표하고 있다. 기영옥 회장은 “ìž‘ë…„ 12ì›” 영국에 갔을 ë•Œ 스완지는 계약 연장을 요구했다. 그러나 성용이는 라우드럽 감독이 있는 í•œ 어렵다는 입장이었다”ë©° 기성용과 라우드럽 감독의 관계가 예전같지 않다고 전했다.

기영옥 회장은 이 외에도 ‘에프앤’에 어린 시절 기성용을 축구선수로 키우게 된 계기 및 호주로 유학을 보낸 ë°°ê²½ 등 사커대디로서의 뒷바라지를 소상히 이야기했다.



Official interview done with Ki's dad.

End of Story.

I think there has been a crack between Laudrup-Ki relation due to misunderstanding.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 12:10 - Jan 22 with 1639 viewsPatchesOHoulihan

From reading everything it just seems he needs to stop acting like a child and grow up.

If the story is true of him doing a disappearing act when expected to meet Korean fans then Ki needs to understand he can't have it both ways.

I'm sure if Ki did everything the club asked of him (and maybe a little more) then the relationship may have been a little bit better and maybe more consideration would have been given about his sisters wedding. As it is it seems he has messed the club around portraying us in a bad light then asked us for a favour

I don't know time scales so this may be completely wrong but you can't have it both ways fella!!!

This is Patches O'Houlihan saying "Take care of your balls, and they'll take care of you."

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 12:36 - Jan 22 with 1591 viewsfbreath

Is the OP master baits ?

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 13:18 - Jan 22 with 1536 viewsYougle

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 07:34 - Jan 22 by mikl0s

Yea so we should believe some old fart from Korea about hear-say in Wales?

This is so unlike Laudrup and in fact it's WAY more plausible that Ki is a slacker AND unprofessional.


Nail.. head.. hit!

This is hardly the truth, just Ki's side of the story.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:13 - Jan 22 with 1469 viewsPlasticman

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 11:02 - Jan 22 by Lohengrin

Well, like I've already said, if that was me I'd have gone regardless and looked for another club.


and when the next company you tried to get hired by contacted your old workplace to hear what kind of work ethic you had, how do you think that would sound?

It's pretty common to expect people to attend their work duties, especially in certain sectors. If he doesn't like what being a professional football player entails, he should have aimed for a different career.

Plastic since 2012

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:31 - Jan 22 with 1457 viewsbaits

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 07:38 - Jan 22 by mikl0s

No it does not explain anything - why would Swansea agree to that in case he is out of form? Makes ZERO sense and I'm quite sure that such clause is not there.

Again this story is to improve Ki's image in Korea not to explain anything - it's all hearsay and no concrete evidence.

Laudrup > Ki


When it is officially said it has been said, the clause is there.

You are saying things as if you know it better than Ki or Laudrup.

Since Ki's dad himself is Ki's manager, what he said is more trustworthy
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:32 - Jan 22 with 1456 viewsbaits

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 07:46 - Jan 22 by nmssis

This guy is a hardcore racist, see the monkey celebration from 2011. He threatened his national team coach for not playing him. who the hell knows what he really did to piss off laudrup? I'm siding with a footballing legend over this old fat jeolla-do cockroach.
[Post edited 22 Jan 2014 7:47]


Well done Illbe shi1te
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:45 - Jan 22 with 1440 viewsbaits

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 12:10 - Jan 22 by PatchesOHoulihan

From reading everything it just seems he needs to stop acting like a child and grow up.

If the story is true of him doing a disappearing act when expected to meet Korean fans then Ki needs to understand he can't have it both ways.

I'm sure if Ki did everything the club asked of him (and maybe a little more) then the relationship may have been a little bit better and maybe more consideration would have been given about his sisters wedding. As it is it seems he has messed the club around portraying us in a bad light then asked us for a favour

I don't know time scales so this may be completely wrong but you can't have it both ways fella!!!


you have completely misread the post here fella.

It has nothing to do with the sissy's wedding or anything like that.

The problem was born at the very moment Laudrup and Ki sat on a table and discussed the injury issue.

It is far too much evaluated when I see so many messed up comments on both Laudrup and Ki.

I am taking neither Laudrup's nor Ki's side.

Get that thing right.

I or Ki or Laudrup did nothing to insult the club.

It's just very private issue between the two.

It has nothing to do with the Korean fans or Danish fans.

It is just between Ki and Laudrup.

And I trust what Ki's dad said about the story behind them because he isn't a person to make lies or excuses, since he has been very honest guy for the last decade as a head of a regional football association.

As for nmssis to speak out Jeolla-do talk. I can't believe you are talking so much bullcrap about regional hatred.

Just by saying that you showed to people that you lack the credibility to talk about football, people's behaviour and things like that.

I am from Seoul I was raised in Seoul and I am now an International student meaning I am not from that region. So I can tell you this with my third person's view.

You just disgraced yourself with utter nonsense that applies nowhere near the issue discussed in this thread.
[Post edited 22 Jan 2014 16:07]
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:57 - Jan 22 with 1429 viewsbaits

Just to let you know.

I am not sided with the two.

I am not a big fan of Ki, or Laudrup.

I just like the club as it is, Swansea city.

I only posted this translation because I personally experienced Ki's father and know that he isn't a person who make excuses or lies.

The proof would be that when Ki had the SNS scandal, Ki's father himself criticised his son for causing trouble with insolence.

and thinking that it is his first time to ever speak about Ki's football related issue

I found it undeniably true.

Think it this way, you know a person for a long time and you have seen him being honest for a long time.

Others don't know a thing about him and so doubt him.

But you know he is not lying.


Enough of that daddy's talk.


I didn't give any opinion on this "quote" nor did I personally commented on it.

all I said was at the end:

"I think there has been a crack between Laudrup-Ki relation due to misunderstanding. "


I did not backed Ki nor did I back Laudrup for this issue.

All I said was there is a crack in the relation of the two.




YET I FIND SO MANY OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS PERSONALLY TOWARDS ME FOR SOME REASONS.

Did I really offended you in any way?

All I commented was the truth about the club's medical system being poorer than the "National medical system" in Korea, giving you just one single example of Hidink coming to Korea twice a year for medical treatment.


I see too much emotional comments, now I am getting emotional.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:01 - Jan 22 with 1420 viewsDarran

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:57 - Jan 22 by baits

Just to let you know.

I am not sided with the two.

I am not a big fan of Ki, or Laudrup.

I just like the club as it is, Swansea city.

I only posted this translation because I personally experienced Ki's father and know that he isn't a person who make excuses or lies.

The proof would be that when Ki had the SNS scandal, Ki's father himself criticised his son for causing trouble with insolence.

and thinking that it is his first time to ever speak about Ki's football related issue

I found it undeniably true.

Think it this way, you know a person for a long time and you have seen him being honest for a long time.

Others don't know a thing about him and so doubt him.

But you know he is not lying.


Enough of that daddy's talk.


I didn't give any opinion on this "quote" nor did I personally commented on it.

all I said was at the end:

"I think there has been a crack between Laudrup-Ki relation due to misunderstanding. "


I did not backed Ki nor did I back Laudrup for this issue.

All I said was there is a crack in the relation of the two.




YET I FIND SO MANY OUTRAGEOUS COMMENTS PERSONALLY TOWARDS ME FOR SOME REASONS.

Did I really offended you in any way?

All I commented was the truth about the club's medical system being poorer than the "National medical system" in Korea, giving you just one single example of Hidink coming to Korea twice a year for medical treatment.


I see too much emotional comments, now I am getting emotional.


Hang in there dude we don't need any tears.

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:03 - Jan 22 with 1418 viewsbermudajack

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 11:04 - Jan 22 by Darran

Spot on Ian ....... again.


It does highlight how good a people person Brendan Rogers is,

I vaguely remember him giving Leon Britton time to return to London for his daughters first day of school?

Football clubs are important because of the money at stake. But the people that help bring that success are even more important.

They're People like you and me who would greatly appreciate humane & empathetic little touches like this...

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:06 - Jan 22 with 1414 viewsbaits

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:01 - Jan 22 by Darran

Hang in there dude we don't need any tears.


Look Darran,

Just try to read through the first post in this thread.

All I intended was to select and show you lads the most trustworthy officially interviewed material with someone people can trust.

Yes, it is my personal selection therefore, people are free to make whatever thoughts in their mind related to the post I made.

the thing I don't get is that some(few) of the comments were completely side-tracked and the other some were directed at ME

I really don't think I made a mistake here. I just wanted you to get things right since I know the language in Korea, so that I can be of help to inform you whether people trust it or not.

I just can't stand those "few" users here, not whole the majority,

Regards
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:09 - Jan 22 with 1407 viewsbaits

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 07:38 - Jan 22 by mikl0s

No it does not explain anything - why would Swansea agree to that in case he is out of form? Makes ZERO sense and I'm quite sure that such clause is not there.

Again this story is to improve Ki's image in Korea not to explain anything - it's all hearsay and no concrete evidence.

Laudrup > Ki


What complete nonsense you are on about.

"Again this story is to improve Ki's image in Korea not to explain anything - it's all hearsay and no concrete evidence. "

When the fack did I ever mention I am part of Ki's side.

I only mentioned that there could be a misunderstanding between the two.

There is a saying goes you can't clap with one hand, but always with the two.

Get your head cooled down a bit and come back to your senses and please try not to insult others when they fairly let their voice out with balanced thought
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:37 - Jan 22 with 1379 viewsDarran

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:06 - Jan 22 by baits

Look Darran,

Just try to read through the first post in this thread.

All I intended was to select and show you lads the most trustworthy officially interviewed material with someone people can trust.

Yes, it is my personal selection therefore, people are free to make whatever thoughts in their mind related to the post I made.

the thing I don't get is that some(few) of the comments were completely side-tracked and the other some were directed at ME

I really don't think I made a mistake here. I just wanted you to get things right since I know the language in Korea, so that I can be of help to inform you whether people trust it or not.

I just can't stand those "few" users here, not whole the majority,

Regards


I can't stand any of them Butt so I'm with you there.

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:40 - Jan 22 with 1372 viewsThursday

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 11:16 - Jan 22 by Lohengrin

We all have choices to make in life. You can either be your own man or kow-tow. We all have to look at ourselves in the mirror when we shave and the choices we make determine how much respect we have for what's looking back.


You think we'd see more players with beards.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:50 - Jan 22 with 1359 viewsLohengrin

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:40 - Jan 22 by Thursday

You think we'd see more players with beards.



An idea isn't responsible for those who believe in it.

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:53 - Jan 22 with 1356 viewsLohengrin

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 15:13 - Jan 22 by Plasticman

and when the next company you tried to get hired by contacted your old workplace to hear what kind of work ethic you had, how do you think that would sound?

It's pretty common to expect people to attend their work duties, especially in certain sectors. If he doesn't like what being a professional football player entails, he should have aimed for a different career.


Or join Sunderland.

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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 17:31 - Jan 22 with 1328 viewsBackHeel

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 05:32 - Jan 22 by nyc_swans

it's a believable enough story. hopefully if Laudrup goes, Ki will be eager to get back to Swans. don't think Sunderland has it in them to stay up.


oh dear, this is bad
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 17:50 - Jan 22 with 1317 viewsIAN05

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 16:03 - Jan 22 by bermudajack

It does highlight how good a people person Brendan Rogers is,

I vaguely remember him giving Leon Britton time to return to London for his daughters first day of school?

Football clubs are important because of the money at stake. But the people that help bring that success are even more important.

They're People like you and me who would greatly appreciate humane & empathetic little touches like this...


Worth noting though that Leon did not miss any games for that, nor was he flying to Korea.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 20:36 - Jan 22 with 1254 viewsnickw_Rose

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 10:00 - Jan 22 by Zut_Alors

Footballers have a summer break to do exactly what they want, as well a couple of short scheduled breaks throughout the calendar. There are literally millions of pounds at stake here. Births and bereavements excepted, do you really feel that it’s unreasonable for the club to expect players to be available for every game?


Whatever the truth it was all mis managed and his father should have kept his mouth shut. Fact is one of our relegation rivals has Ki and we don't. Utter nonsense and complete bad management.
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★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 21:44 - Jan 22 with 1223 viewsbermudajack

★The Truth about Laudrup vs Ki Revealed!★ on 17:50 - Jan 22 by IAN05

Worth noting though that Leon did not miss any games for that, nor was he flying to Korea.


I Don't think that would have changed anything myself, BR knew how to get respect and very best out of people. If BR was here, he would have gone & played out of his skin when he returned...

When I's Roberto De Matteo coming down for a Rossi's take away then ??

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