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Reply | Independence march merthyr
at 12:46 14 Sep 2019
"If Scotland leaves and the north of Ireland becomes part of the irish republic, what then for Wales ?"
The key question. If/when Scotland leaves and Ireland reunifies..where does that leave us? An England and Wales union governed in Westminster? No Surely this will cause even the staunchest of Brit Nats to reconsider.
Its so important that the debate on Welsh independence happens in readiness for if/when this occurs..great to see 12 pages of debate (& many more threads) dedicated to it on this forum too. |
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 13:43 25 Nov 2018
I asked what I felt was a valid question given the appearance of the loyalist flag and there some good discussion and explanations with mostly respectful responses from all despite what side their identity/opinion! 👠|
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 11:32 25 Nov 2018
Thank you for the explanation Lohengrin, no twisted nickers here.
My eyes weren't good enough to identify the words but ‘Quis Seperabit?’ does seem to fit the bill. A quick search translates it to
"Who shall separate us from the love of Christ?" and is associated with Ulster Unionism.
All good with the decent lads supporting the swans but not sure this form of political symbolism belongs on show at a Welsh football club. |
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 10:55 25 Nov 2018
Didn't know this was the reason, Catullus.
Even Welsh that are pro British should surely prefer to have some representation on the flag? |
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 10:51 25 Nov 2018
Union_Jack - I am quite aware of the previous threads on the Union Jack. This one, however, was as a result of the Ulster & Rangers flag draped over the Welsh one.
I brought up the Union Jack as they seem to be part of the same movement. |
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 10:37 25 Nov 2018
They are always on the opposite side to me, I would be happy to ask them. Just after an understanding of some opposing views and where it comes from. |
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Reply | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 10:06 25 Nov 2018
It said Swansea Loyal on the top then something like 'quas separant' on the bottom. Not sure what language this is. Yes, it also was covering a Welsh flag Swansea banner.
If it is such a small minority, I'm not sure why we are allowing these flags. When away team fans come to our games or our games are broadcasted, this is the impression we are creating to outsiders. I personally find it quite embarrassing but appreciate if there are those that have Briish identities may not be so bothered with regards to the Union Jacks, but this doesn't explain the Loyal aspect or what the Union Jack is really representing here.
Can anyone shed more light on the Swansea Loyal. Are they Rangers fans that live in Swansea? Speak up. |
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Thread | Union Jacks & Loyalists
at 09:18 25 Nov 2018
I noticed a new flag yesterday which I assume to be a loyalist flag. The Ulster hand and Rangers badge with Union Jack colours. Just wondering what the significance of this is?
I don't personally see how this or the Union Jack represents Swansea in any way. I get that plenty people identify as British but given the Union Jack is a amalgamation of each flag in the union aside from Wales why would we choose to display it in a Welsh football ground? Its almost seems welcoming to our opposition.
Do those that fly these flags not consider themselves Welsh too? Is there another political agenda at play here? Looking for an explanation of the Swansea Loyalist subculture really.
Tin hat on. |
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