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Reply | Iorwerth
at 14:03 22 Mar 2025
I'm considering voting Plaid. I never have before and never thought I would.
For the same reasons as you. I'm tempted by the lib Dems or green, but for tactical reasons a vote for plaid could see a change in leadership.
It depends on how they play independence in their manifesto though. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 13:58 22 Mar 2025
It should really have been Jeremy Miles. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 10:52 22 Mar 2025
Well we don't know do we. But their policies, leader and likely candidates are clear.
We know nothing about Reform. Apart from the turmoil amongst MP's and the leader, which isn't a good look.
When people say they're going to vote for them, what is it based on? |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 18:03 21 Mar 2025
That's the point.
Reform's Westminster manifesto was nonsense. They don't have any Welsh policies, spokespeople or candidates. Who would be first minister for instance?
They'll vote for them though for some reason. |
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Reply | Council Tax
at 17:00 21 Mar 2025
Starmer saying "next year Labour would freeze council tax". Two years ago. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 16:55 21 Mar 2025
But what change?
I'm desperate for change, but I want to know what I'm voting for. Absolutely nobody saying they'll vote reform at next Senedd election does. |
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Reply | Council Tax
at 16:53 21 Mar 2025
Those clips are from the 2023 / 24 financial year. A load of hot air because Labour were in opposition and no election was planned.
It's misrepresented by the Tories though. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 10:40 21 Mar 2025
But surely not as twp as somebody planning on voting for a party with no relevant policies or leader?
What are you voting for? |
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Reply | Why can't the UK
at 06:35 21 Mar 2025
If the UK had roads connecting to mainland Europe we could do exactly the same. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 06:25 21 Mar 2025
I think Labour will lose voters to Reform but I don't think those voters know why they're changing and what they're changing too.
It's looking like it's even between Plaid and Labour in terms of seats won under the new they'll join together and get the Libs and Greens on board if needed.
We could see Rhun as first minister though. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 06:20 21 Mar 2025
But what are they gathering momentum based on?
The next major elections are the Senedd elections and I do agree that Reform will most likely do well. But based on what? I understand that people are fed up with the status quo and lack of alternative. I've said this several times myself but what alternative are Reform? Nobody knows. So why vote for them in Wales? Nothing says they'll be better at all, just that they're not the same. They could (and I think will) be considerably worse.
What are their policies for Wales?
Who is their Welsh leader?
Who will be their Welsh candidates?
The national party is in disarray.
Attendance and performance of their MP's at Westminster is shocking.
Earlier in this thread somebody called Labour voters thickos. I'd suggest that voting for a party with none of the above is pretty thick really. We're only 14 months from the election we should know a bit about this by now. |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 19:49 20 Mar 2025
I don't disagree, but what specifically?
Why Reform and not another party? |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 18:41 20 Mar 2025
What would a Reform voter in Wales be voting for? |
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Reply | Iorwerth
at 12:37 20 Mar 2025
I don't think theres much wrong with that headline.
It clearly won't be the current leader of Reform in Wales for obvious reasons. |
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Reply | Is a coup possible
at 08:21 19 Mar 2025
Of course the countries leaders aren't skint. They run a country, it's a tough job and deserves the salaries they get if you compare them with other roles.
There is no doubt the country is skint, you just have to take a look at public services from refuse collection to surgery waiting times.
I'm not convinced Wales planting trees in Uganda is making a massive difference or is best use of money. It would be if everyone did it though. It also doesn't cost much. |
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Reply | Is a coup possible
at 08:00 19 Mar 2025
I think most people realise that things aren't really that bad and the country is skint. |
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Reply | Was corbyn the UK's last chance ?
at 22:25 15 Mar 2025
He put himself up as a leader of a major political party in a general election. He was trounced
Nobody did a number on him, he was just crap. |
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Reply | Was corbyn the UK's last chance ?
at 11:05 15 Mar 2025
Nobody needed to do a number on Corbyn. He was unelectable. It was obvious.
His policies were well received but unworkable.
And he made antisemitic observations, there's no place for that in sensible politics |
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Reply | Was corbyn the UK's last chance ?
at 11:02 15 Mar 2025
And you don't think the ineptitude of Corbyns Labour to form any kind of decent opposition had anything to do with it? |
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Reply | Was corbyn the UK's last chance ?
at 08:56 15 Mar 2025
Because him and his supporters were so inept and unelectable it gave the Tories under Boris a massive majority to do what they want. And look what happened next.
I mean he would probably have done a worse job than Boris Johnson and Liz Truss. That would have been a hell of an achievement. |
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