| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts 11:08 - Jan 3 with 2434 views | CrashBandicoot |
Apologies if there is a transfer thread I'm opening a thread for the January transfer window which has now opened.
Who should be a potential signing for us and who should move on either via loan or permanently? I've heard Kyrell Lisbie & Gus Scott Morriss mentioned as potential targets but could they potentially make the jump from NL to L2? Some players do but others don't.
Plus actual transfers that we bring in & out can also be mentioned here. |  |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:25 - Jan 3 with 1432 views | Moor_Pinot |
Yes Crash, I like the idea of trying Lisbie. Non league has often been okay for us. I'd also reinvigorate Matt Jay who is a better player than Hopper and scores goals. Defensive mistakes still occur too often - especially the last two games - I'd try to play Kelleher more and look for another experienced back line player.
As long as we cement the mid-table position I'm content given where we've come from.
Realistically we have still only won five league games in five months but are harder to beat and much more resolute.
There's only one stand out team this season so mid table is a morass, as long as we're in that and not where we've lived these last few seasons then I'll begin to feel that "the worm has begun to turn".
Up our slowly recovering U's. |  |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 13:12 - Jan 3 with 1411 views | BLACKCAT |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:25 - Jan 3 by Moor_Pinot |
Yes Crash, I like the idea of trying Lisbie. Non league has often been okay for us. I'd also reinvigorate Matt Jay who is a better player than Hopper and scores goals. Defensive mistakes still occur too often - especially the last two games - I'd try to play Kelleher more and look for another experienced back line player.
As long as we cement the mid-table position I'm content given where we've come from.
Realistically we have still only won five league games in five months but are harder to beat and much more resolute.
There's only one stand out team this season so mid table is a morass, as long as we're in that and not where we've lived these last few seasons then I'll begin to feel that "the worm has begun to turn".
Up our slowly recovering U's. |
I hadn't realised just how outstanding that one team is till I took a quick look at the top of the table. What a superb job Sadler has done with The Saddlers and there seemed no sign of how good they'd be ante-post. It is significant that he's had two full pre-seasons and they didn't allow the shock 2-6 home defeat to Fleetwood Town, ironically three days after their 4-0 win against The U's, to affect them at all. |  | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 18:23 - Jan 3 with 1287 views | bwildered |
Guess McDonnell has effectively taken his selection in the squad. |  |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 05:54 - Jan 4 with 1168 views | wessex_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:25 - Jan 3 by Moor_Pinot |
Yes Crash, I like the idea of trying Lisbie. Non league has often been okay for us. I'd also reinvigorate Matt Jay who is a better player than Hopper and scores goals. Defensive mistakes still occur too often - especially the last two games - I'd try to play Kelleher more and look for another experienced back line player.
As long as we cement the mid-table position I'm content given where we've come from.
Realistically we have still only won five league games in five months but are harder to beat and much more resolute.
There's only one stand out team this season so mid table is a morass, as long as we're in that and not where we've lived these last few seasons then I'll begin to feel that "the worm has begun to turn".
Up our slowly recovering U's. |
Sadly, I can’t see anything other than Matt Jay moving on. He must be on a decent salary for a player that isn’t even making the bench. |  |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 09:44 - Jan 4 with 1110 views | CrashBandicoot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 05:54 - Jan 4 by wessex_exile |
Sadly, I can’t see anything other than Matt Jay moving on. He must be on a decent salary for a player that isn’t even making the bench. |
Yes, I can't see Jay staying much longer either unfortunately. A 29 y/o striker should be a regular first team player rather than struggling to even make the bench. He'll probably be loaned out & then released at the end of the season.
Saying that I'm not convinced by Hopper either as although he's not a bad team player he is not a good quality striker. But because he's regularly picked for the 1st team he'll likely remain with us until the end of the season. Though I think Hopper & Jay will probably both move on at the end of this season so hopefully decent replacements for both will be found. | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:03 - Jan 4 with 1071 views | Moor_Pinot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 05:54 - Jan 4 by wessex_exile |
Sadly, I can’t see anything other than Matt Jay moving on. He must be on a decent salary for a player that isn’t even making the bench. |
I don't doubt that you're right Wessex. It's just that the way neither he nor Wilkinson (look at his scoring record this season) were ever given the remotest chance to establish themselves feels like profligacy to me. We can't afford that. However I accept that there maybe stuff I don't know. | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:11 - Jan 4 with 1042 views | wessex_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:03 - Jan 4 by Moor_Pinot |
I don't doubt that you're right Wessex. It's just that the way neither he nor Wilkinson (look at his scoring record this season) were ever given the remotest chance to establish themselves feels like profligacy to me. We can't afford that. However I accept that there maybe stuff I don't know. |
I largely dismissed it at the time as a bit of sour-grapery, but I bumped into a bunch of Exeter lads on the train home from an awayday a while back - I think was toward the end of Jay’s first season or right at the start of his second. They were asking how Matt Jay was getting on, which at the time was as an occasional starter, mostly on the bench and not really finding the form we knew he was capable of. They weren’t surprised, apart from a couple of stand out seasons that was Matt Jay at Exeter as far as they were concerned and couldn’t believe we’d paid money for him.
I’m not saying they were right, but I can’t help feel we were swayed by a players reputation rather than the player himself?
Edit: I’ve also seen rumours that he’s close to triggering an additional payment clause based on appearances, hence he’s not even making the bench. [Post edited 4 Jan 12:14]
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:36 - Jan 4 with 1007 views | CrashBandicoot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:11 - Jan 4 by wessex_exile |
I largely dismissed it at the time as a bit of sour-grapery, but I bumped into a bunch of Exeter lads on the train home from an awayday a while back - I think was toward the end of Jay’s first season or right at the start of his second. They were asking how Matt Jay was getting on, which at the time was as an occasional starter, mostly on the bench and not really finding the form we knew he was capable of. They weren’t surprised, apart from a couple of stand out seasons that was Matt Jay at Exeter as far as they were concerned and couldn’t believe we’d paid money for him.
I’m not saying they were right, but I can’t help feel we were swayed by a players reputation rather than the player himself?
Edit: I’ve also seen rumours that he’s close to triggering an additional payment clause based on appearances, hence he’s not even making the bench. [Post edited 4 Jan 12:14]
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All the more reason to move him on unless of course Exeter have put more clauses in the contract of sale based on a percentage of transfer fee received and possibly appearances at other clubs (if he is loaned out)..
Whatever way you look at it he really does need replacing if he's not going to make the first team. | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 13:35 - Jan 4 with 966 views | Lewis_1 |
Is Tovide actually injured or is his sudden absence a sign that he's off? | | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 18:06 - Jan 4 with 870 views | MarkyMark47 |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 13:35 - Jan 4 by Lewis_1 |
Is Tovide actually injured or is his sudden absence a sign that he's off? |
According to today's programme Tovide is still recovering from a hammy injury - doesn't look like he's back on the grass yet. |  | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 10:57 - Jan 5 with 773 views | burnsieespana |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:36 - Jan 4 by CrashBandicoot |
All the more reason to move him on unless of course Exeter have put more clauses in the contract of sale based on a percentage of transfer fee received and possibly appearances at other clubs (if he is loaned out)..
Whatever way you look at it he really does need replacing if he's not going to make the first team. |
As we are down to the bare bones we need to do something but guess DC knows that.
See Woking signed Aidan O'Brien on Friday due to his 'connection' with Simon Bassey having played for Portsmouth. Did wonder as he is an experienced (31 year old) did wonder if he was originally l8ned up to come to us. [Post edited 5 Jan 11:00]
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:15 - Jan 5 with 752 views | durham_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 10:57 - Jan 5 by burnsieespana |
As we are down to the bare bones we need to do something but guess DC knows that.
See Woking signed Aidan O'Brien on Friday due to his 'connection' with Simon Bassey having played for Portsmouth. Did wonder as he is an experienced (31 year old) did wonder if he was originally l8ned up to come to us. [Post edited 5 Jan 11:00]
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We appear to be vying with Dundee for 21 year old Crystal Palace attacking midfield Jadan Raymond.
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:28 - Jan 5 with 748 views | Moor_Pinot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:15 - Jan 5 by durham_exile |
We appear to be vying with Dundee for 21 year old Crystal Palace attacking midfield Jadan Raymond.
Up the U's |
Hmm, I imagine Dundee's a more attractive proposition Durham.
We do need midfield though. Chilvers and Mcgeechan have been missed and look how well they're doing .
We must use Kelleher and Goodliffe at the back, fewer mistakes with them. Up front recruitment is necessary, maybe we should re-sign the on-fire Wilkinson! | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:55 - Jan 5 with 730 views | durham_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:28 - Jan 5 by Moor_Pinot |
Hmm, I imagine Dundee's a more attractive proposition Durham.
We do need midfield though. Chilvers and Mcgeechan have been missed and look how well they're doing .
We must use Kelleher and Goodliffe at the back, fewer mistakes with them. Up front recruitment is necessary, maybe we should re-sign the on-fire Wilkinson! |
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Wilkinson was never given a proper opportunity and when he did play it was as a right wing back whereas he was actually a striker!
I don't understand the obsession with the Scottish scene.
The standard of football even in the Premier League is dubious at best.
After 11:unbeaten games when the good times were rolling back a poor defeat to Swindon and a shocker yesterday against Accrington has brought the doom and gloom merchants back to the fore.
We are missing Tovide very badly and if Lyle Taylor now has a hamstring injury too then a striker, preferably two is the priority.
Progress was being made but now has badly stalled.
From a geographical point of view Colchester is 55 miles from London and I would have thought would offer a more attractive location than some of the more less well known locations.
Our facilities at the Academy and the Stadium are impressive so there must be something else.
Is it the 16 years of decline and perceived lack of ambition.
Or is it something else.
Clearly we have to reduce the wages budget before more reinforcements can be brought in.
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:09 - Jan 5 with 718 views | TheOldOakTree |
This really is a golden opportunity for RC to reverse his shitshow of the last 18 years. Gates are up dramatically, money has flowed in from player sales and there are signs that the losing mentality is thawing. DC is not perfect, but he’s the best we are going to get and given a reasonable budget is capable of getting us to L1.
If the future is going to be tied to gate receipts, then it is vital that we keep the influx of support and increase it. RC has done so much to destroy the benefits of moving to a new stadium, but in DC he has the chance to put more and more bums on seats.
The cult of DC and the current wave of optimism will not last forever. If the instructions are to accept any offer and again spend buttons on replacements, then we will at best tread water, until the inevitable demise happens.
Now is the time. | | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 12:54 - Jan 5 with 686 views | wessex_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:28 - Jan 5 by Moor_Pinot |
Hmm, I imagine Dundee's a more attractive proposition Durham.
We do need midfield though. Chilvers and Mcgeechan have been missed and look how well they're doing .
We must use Kelleher and Goodliffe at the back, fewer mistakes with them. Up front recruitment is necessary, maybe we should re-sign the on-fire Wilkinson! |
I wouldn’t be so sure tbh - he was born in Croydon and been at Palace since a youth player, so it’s reasonable to assume virtually all his friends and family are London-based, and Colchester is just up the road, rather than north of the wall. Scottish Premier League sounds good, but the reality is Dundee play at a stadium only marginally bigger than ours, and with an average attendance only about 1k above ours right now. Incidentally, they lost their Boxing Day fixture 3-0 at home to Ross County, first goal scored by none other than Mr N Chilvers. | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 15:16 - Jan 5 with 627 views | Moor_Pinot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 11:55 - Jan 5 by durham_exile |
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Wilkinson was never given a proper opportunity and when he did play it was as a right wing back whereas he was actually a striker!
I don't understand the obsession with the Scottish scene.
The standard of football even in the Premier League is dubious at best.
After 11:unbeaten games when the good times were rolling back a poor defeat to Swindon and a shocker yesterday against Accrington has brought the doom and gloom merchants back to the fore.
We are missing Tovide very badly and if Lyle Taylor now has a hamstring injury too then a striker, preferably two is the priority.
Progress was being made but now has badly stalled.
From a geographical point of view Colchester is 55 miles from London and I would have thought would offer a more attractive location than some of the more less well known locations.
Our facilities at the Academy and the Stadium are impressive so there must be something else.
Is it the 16 years of decline and perceived lack of ambition.
Or is it something else.
Clearly we have to reduce the wages budget before more reinforcements can be brought in.
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Yep, can't argue with any of this Durham so maybe the Palace lad is a good call.
For the life of me I couldn't understand Wilkinson being signed, misused then ignored. He's certainly reasserted himself at Solihull, hardly a huge drop down in standard from us at present.
We've done very well with limited resources to drag ourselves away from the bottom but are still very close to it. I applaud the improved performance and effort. It's extremely difficult to turn around the culture of our club and sadly we can't appear attractive to new recruits.
I agree with you progress was being made. It's tentative though and five wins in five and a half months is a hard fact.
A replacement for Taylor/Tovide is crucial and who knows from where! We were clearly doing well defensively, that's now history and Noah hints at Egbo running on empty. Kelleher and Goodliffe must play - Terry was a bizarre call.
The next month will reveal some answers but securing a mid table position is paramount. That may create a future platform.
But as TooT says the money from sales (& if I were buying Tovide I'd wait, he's by no means the finished article) must be wisely used rather than wasted (Jay, Wilkinson) if there's any aspiration whatsoever to climb the table and have a tilt at escaping a league that is more competitive than many realise.
Obvious comment I know but made with the best and most positive intentions!
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 17:52 - Jan 5 with 550 views | MarkyMark47 |
I know there is a lot of excitement and speculation around the January window, but surely the point is to recruit well in the summer? January business is often done in a panic, and at a time when the best players are unlikely to be available, so it's easy to make signings and live to regret. I think the loan deals done after the Cowleys arrived last January weren't hugely successful. I don't think any of them really changed the narrative of the second half of last season. Why should anyone think it will be any different now? | | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 18:25 - Jan 5 with 535 views | durham_exile |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 17:52 - Jan 5 by MarkyMark47 |
I know there is a lot of excitement and speculation around the January window, but surely the point is to recruit well in the summer? January business is often done in a panic, and at a time when the best players are unlikely to be available, so it's easy to make signings and live to regret. I think the loan deals done after the Cowleys arrived last January weren't hugely successful. I don't think any of them really changed the narrative of the second half of last season. Why should anyone think it will be any different now? |
Bonner sacked by Gillingham | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 20:34 - Jan 5 with 440 views | BLACKCAT |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 18:25 - Jan 5 by durham_exile |
Bonner sacked by Gillingham |
And replaced by John Coleman; an interesting appointment. | | | |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 20:40 - Jan 5 with 434 views | CrashBandicoot |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 17:52 - Jan 5 by MarkyMark47 |
I know there is a lot of excitement and speculation around the January window, but surely the point is to recruit well in the summer? January business is often done in a panic, and at a time when the best players are unlikely to be available, so it's easy to make signings and live to regret. I think the loan deals done after the Cowleys arrived last January weren't hugely successful. I don't think any of them really changed the narrative of the second half of last season. Why should anyone think it will be any different now? |
Sadly summer signings can go wrong just like they can in January. The fact is all clubs (not just us) can make good and bad signings in both transfer windows though I would class the summer for more permanent signings and January more to fill gaps and sign permanent players in if summer transfers have gone wrong.
If LT & ST are both out for a while then we are really going to have to go for another striker or 2 then perhaps loan out or mutually agree to release the likes of Jay.
Luckily the FA cup has cut us a break this time to regroup and potentially sort out incomings & outgoings. | |
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| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 21:28 - Jan 5 with 401 views | MarkyMark47 |
| January 2025 transfer window hopes & facts on 20:40 - Jan 5 by CrashBandicoot |
Sadly summer signings can go wrong just like they can in January. The fact is all clubs (not just us) can make good and bad signings in both transfer windows though I would class the summer for more permanent signings and January more to fill gaps and sign permanent players in if summer transfers have gone wrong.
If LT & ST are both out for a while then we are really going to have to go for another striker or 2 then perhaps loan out or mutually agree to release the likes of Jay.
Luckily the FA cup has cut us a break this time to regroup and potentially sort out incomings & outgoings. |
It seems to me that there is a massive difference between recruiting players in the summer, when they get pre-season training if signed early enough, and January signings, when players have to be fitted into the existing set up. It's not impossible to make it work, just significantly more difficult. Perhaps the issue is the size of the squad (which DC has mentioned recently), but as the policy of the owner seems to be players out (like Woodyard) before new ones come in, the size of the squad is unlikely to increase much, if at all. | | | |
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