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Russell Martin 15:42 - Dec 12 with 2216 viewsWilkinswatercarrier

I have never read such twaddle. He seems to have forgotten that he is paid to win football games.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cevgdzz1rnpo
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Russell Martin on 15:52 - Dec 12 with 2126 viewsGaryHaddock

Maybe it was here, maybe it was a podcast I drunkenly listened to recently, but isn’t the prevailing opinion that he is just showcasing his style of play at the expense of results to make himself more attractive to bigger clubs who put style of play over everything?
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Russell Martin on 16:32 - Dec 12 with 1870 viewsNW5Hoop

Russell Martin on 15:52 - Dec 12 by GaryHaddock

Maybe it was here, maybe it was a podcast I drunkenly listened to recently, but isn’t the prevailing opinion that he is just showcasing his style of play at the expense of results to make himself more attractive to bigger clubs who put style of play over everything?
[Post edited 12 Dec 15:58]


It was Clive's theory about Kompany at Burnley, which I think holds water there, given he was never going to stay long. He just wanted a stepping stone. I don't think it's necessarily the case with everyone, though. I think it's more that we've entered an age of managers as coaching brands, instead of personality brands – now they're selling their theories rather than their charisma. Lots and lots of them are all about "never sacrificing our principles" now, so they kind of have to stick by them or accept you're another hack manager who'll do anything to scrape mid-table. (Even Ainsworth was a brand in his own way. He certainly didn't have a Plan B.)

And it's not as though Russell Martin is in with the slightest shot at Liverpool/Arsenal/City/Chelsea/United or even Spurs/Villa/Newcastle. And certainly the managers taking the same line lower down the leagues aren't in any danger of attracting attention from further up unless they're actually winning games, as well as encouraging a 38-pass move between the goalie and two central defenders within their own box from every goal kick.
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Russell Martin on 16:32 - Dec 12 with 1869 viewsfraserc

'"if you believe in something and it's taken you a certain way in life then to deviate too far from that is crazy," said Martin.'

I can see where he is coming from, but I also go with the adage that "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results".
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Russell Martin on 16:41 - Dec 12 with 1768 viewsWegerles_Stairs

Let's face it, he's pulled Lucy Pinder so fair play to him believing in following your crazy dreams.
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Russell Martin on 16:53 - Dec 12 with 1705 viewsHarbour

He does not have the players capable of playing his style of football. Seems to have his head in the sand and surprised he is still the manager. But he is right he and the team are embarrassing.
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Russell Martin on 17:05 - Dec 12 with 1613 viewsaston_hoop

The thing is, Martin hasn't really had to rely on success to climb up to being a Premier League manager. Its been all about his style. Managed MK Dons with a big budget, had them playing possession football without winning anything. Turned mid-table Swansea into mid-table Swansea but played possession football. Took arguably the leagues strongest side up via the playoffs last season. But plays possession football. Who's to say another set of owners won't fall for appointing him on that basis even higher up? Just because they want the style, they believe its the right way to play.

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Russell Martin on 18:01 - Dec 12 with 1446 viewsstrikerace

Funny, I always thought the job of a Manager was to figure out a way to win. This means coming up with the best way to play based on your players, not just doing the same thing you did previous places.
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Russell Martin on 18:42 - Dec 12 with 1286 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Russell should read Clive's Oxford United preview - Pragmatism v idealism.
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Russell Martin on 00:48 - Dec 13 with 886 viewssaxbend

Let him try it at Millwall.
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Russell Martin on 01:37 - Dec 13 with 819 viewsBenny_the_Ball

Russell Martin on 00:48 - Dec 13 by saxbend

Let him try it at Millwall.


With Mick Boil as his number 2.
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Russell Martin on 09:18 - Dec 13 with 474 viewsTheChef

If that's what he wants to do, then let him.

Have to say I feel that Bazball is a similar philosophy - "we're going to play this way, not deviate from it, and hopefully win more than we lose".

Kind of admirable, but also stupid should you need to adapt in certain match situations if you actually want to win a game!

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Russell Martin on 10:18 - Dec 13 with 346 viewsOldPedro

Some interesting bits on the Southampton equivalent of Loft For Words - their fans are not happy with Martin:

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/63440/southampton-planni

https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/football/southampton/news/63431/southampton-at-ast

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