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Given the news we heard this week from Ruben that LR is now more likely to be redeveloped over a new stadium, I wanted to open up a specific thread for it.
Any ideas on how we can improve LR.
NOTE: Serious ideas only.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 16:38 - Nov 8 with 7514 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 20:50 - Nov 7 by LazyFan
Agreed, there is no point.
We need a new stadium, which means either the council will come on board or move out of the borough.
We can see now that with 3 prem clubs on their doorstep, they feel they don't need us, so, we are more hassle than we are worth and can go do one.
Therefore, we shall need to move out to where a council wants us and we can build a stadium. If, we don't do this, we are dead.
We need a 40K stadium, we need to be large to attract the players and fans and we need it to be multi-purpose so, we can bring in revenue weekly no matter what week that is.
One great achievement from the owner is the new training ground. This is close to state-of-the-art (not quite) and this does help us with players.
Along with the London thing, of course. I mean if you are French and will only speak French and don't really like English, you may put up with your hubby playing in London (as we have many French schools) for a few years to earn the money before slipping back off to France for the final payday and settling down for good. Barbets.
I remember the good old days when players like Andy Gray left Aston Villa for QPR just because we were in London and Brum was terrible to live in. This is the attraction of London to some.
Andy Gray, didn't hang around long though did he ? Scored a cracking brace in a night game against ManU ( think it was them and we won 3-2 ? ) before heading back to Palace a few weeks later.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 22:54 - Nov 8 with 7069 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 19:04 - Nov 7 by GroveR
There's bits of this thread that are like my missus when she wants to knock one of the walls in our house down. When told it's a "load-bearing" wall, she just asks the same question in different ways to different people until it becomes un-load-bearing and she gets the answer she wanted at the start.
How did she react when you called her "overbearing"?
Knocked you through, perhaps?
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 23:03 - Nov 8 with 7059 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 20:50 - Nov 7 by LazyFan
Agreed, there is no point.
We need a new stadium, which means either the council will come on board or move out of the borough.
We can see now that with 3 prem clubs on their doorstep, they feel they don't need us, so, we are more hassle than we are worth and can go do one.
Therefore, we shall need to move out to where a council wants us and we can build a stadium. If, we don't do this, we are dead.
We need a 40K stadium, we need to be large to attract the players and fans and we need it to be multi-purpose so, we can bring in revenue weekly no matter what week that is.
One great achievement from the owner is the new training ground. This is close to state-of-the-art (not quite) and this does help us with players.
Along with the London thing, of course. I mean if you are French and will only speak French and don't really like English, you may put up with your hubby playing in London (as we have many French schools) for a few years to earn the money before slipping back off to France for the final payday and settling down for good. Barbets.
I remember the good old days when players like Andy Gray left Aston Villa for QPR just because we were in London and Brum was terrible to live in. This is the attraction of London to some.
"One great achievement from the owner is the new training ground. This is close to state-of-the-art (not quite) and this does help us with players."
No doubt it's very good and a huge improvement on the old one, but I'm not sure what £20m buys you in the South East these days.
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 16:38 - Nov 8 by Galileo
Andy Gray, didn't hang around long though did he ? Scored a cracking brace in a night game against ManU ( think it was them and we won 3-2 ? ) before heading back to Palace a few weeks later.
I was there that night, both superb goals.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 23:24 - Nov 8 with 7048 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 09:15 - Nov 8 by dutch
Yet again NO. How far out of the borough maintains our identity? Hounslow, Perivale, Milton Keynes maybe? The USP of QPR is our location, a truly urban west London club with wonderful transport links, bars, restaurants etc. Brentford prove that you do not need a bigger capacity in the prem, it is almost irrelevant financially. You do need a tidy, attractive ground, and you are right being in London is vital to attract players, but W147 or wherever is hardly London. Make Loftus Road a more comfortable, modern facility, (a boutique anybody) move the offices away to generate more space and revel in who and where we are.
"Brentford prove that you do not need a bigger capacity in the prem, it is almost irrelevant financially."
So long as you're in the Prem, certainly. But the owner is very clear - BFC are simply not capable of being financially viable in the Championship, even with the new stadium.
I mean, the likes of Villa or Leeds weren't breaking-even in the Championship, even when they were filling their 40k stadia.
Or at the other end, there's the example of Rotherham. For all the while they refuse to overspend/go into debt, admirable though that is, they're not capable of sustaining Championship football long-term, hence their yo-yoing up and down.
And that's as a very well run club in a brand new stadium, albeit with a 12k capacity.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 02:24 - Nov 9 with 6952 views
If you see this simply as a comparison with just the cost obviously 100 million pounds is 5 times more than 20 million
However, just quick glance tells me:
- Heston is about 27 acres, building area is about 4000 m2 (45,000 square feet) - Leicester City's training complex at Seagrave is about 7 times more at 185 acres, and the building area is also at 3-4 times the size
- Heston has 7 training pitches, Seagrave's 21 playing surfaces (including 14 full size pitches) with one having a 499 seater floodlit show pitch
- Seagrave is build on a old gold course, it kept part of the golf course with 9 hole. It also has a swimming pool and restaurant.
- Seagrave has also 22,000 new trees
You can now easily see the difference. The quality of facilities is another thing, but both are first class or state of art (or close to)
Looking like the HS2 Euston / Old Oak Lane tunnel is now in doubt. Might slow down the regeneration and create some potential different options for the land.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 09:30 - Nov 10 with 6157 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 00:42 - Nov 8 by DavieQPR
The whole thing is not to increase the Away area or even to increase the capacity of a ground we don't fill anyway. The thinking is to improve the size and facilities in the Corporate area. This is to try and turn it into a 'multi purpose' stadium with non football revenues.
Away fans should be high in a corner and the players should resemble airfix soldiers. (Blast from the past )
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 11:07 - Nov 10 with 6048 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 16:38 - Nov 8 by Galileo
Andy Gray, didn't hang around long though did he ? Scored a cracking brace in a night game against ManU ( think it was them and we won 3-2 ? ) before heading back to Palace a few weeks later.
I got thrown out by some horrible jobsworth plod, but got back in when they opened the gates at the end just in time to see his two goals, so they must have been fairly late.
It was a Monday (8th April) and not even a Bank Holiday so a strange date for a game (well before Sky Sports MNF) and did only have 10k attendance so must have been something to cause such a low turn out especially as the whole of the west paddock was closed.
I was there though :)
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 18:05 - Dec 22 with 5291 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 13:36 - Sep 20 by Rs_Holy
maybe this is the 'talking to the council' comment made by Ruben at the forum the other night... Look at the view from some of the houses near the Aviva stadium in Dublin...
If a new SA Stand was all glassy and transparent (and quite frankly more attractive than the current stand ) it might be more palatable to residents and the council?
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With the accuracy of some of our passing and shooting it would make it a deathtrap
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 18:54 - Dec 24 with 4575 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 19:09 - Dec 24 by lassel
As said before, there are plenty of things they *could* do, but it’s only window dressing ultimately and would never recover the original expense.
Nothing the current board have done has recovered their original outlay. Why therefor does that matter? In the end income comes from promotion, playing in the prem, not from the extra 3000 people we cram in.
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Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 18:30 - Aug 29 with 2667 views
Loftus Road renovation/revamp on 18:29 - Aug 29 by dutch
Nothing the current board have done has recovered their original outlay. Why therefor does that matter? In the end income comes from promotion, playing in the prem, not from the extra 3000 people we cram in.
That's not entirely correct.
Additional executive boxes and meeting rooms will help with an additional non match day revenue stream.
It wouldn't surprise me to see new plans with a similar capacity but with far more executive and sponsorship space.
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