| Sheffield Wednesday win? 18:17 - Aug 1 with 3427 views | Scrappy2020 |
I believe their last home competitive game with a big crowd roaring them on they overhauled a 4 goal deficit to reach the play off final,so not an easy game for Saints,but fear not with Bazuna in goal stopping them scoring and Striker?? Adam Armstrong knocking in the goals what have we to fear??,where is Sulemana who scored two against Liverpool,also if as it looks likely Arsenal sign the Brentford goalkeeper,then why can't we put in a bid for Matt Turner the USA keeper who played so well in the World Cup who presumably will become their number3. |  | | |  |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 18:35 - Aug 1 with 3383 views | Ron11 |
Certainly URGENTLY need a Matt Turner from somewhere, or put a defender on the near post at all times. | | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:02 - Aug 1 with 3284 views | cocklebreath |
Unlike pessimistic Pat I think we’ll win, Rusty will have us passing them silly |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:15 - Aug 1 with 3268 views | dirk_doone |
Saints have just come down from the Premier League and Wednesday have just come up from League One so the neutrals and most pundits will be expecting a Saints win.
But, there were no indications from the pre-season games that we have sorted out either the goalkeeping or striking problems. Our strikers and goalkeepers are ones you'd just love to play against.
The last real cause for optimism came from the performance of Sulemana in the Liverpool game and he may not even be playing in this game. Let's hope he makes a surprise appearance.
Of course, we don't know how poor Wednesday are. Maybe they are worse. Their pre-season results have been at least as bad as ours:
8 July 2023 York City 1–1 Sheffield Wednesday
11 July 2023 Chesterfield 1–2 Sheffield Wednesday
14 July 2023 Burnley 3–0 Sheffield Wednesday
18 July 2023 Real Murcia 0–0 Sheffield Wednesday
21 July 2023 CD Eldense 4–0 Sheffield Wednesday
25 July 2023 Doncaster Rovers 1–0 Sheffield Wednesday
29 July 2023 Sheffield Wednesday 1–2 Luton Town [Post edited 1 Aug 2023 20:27]
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:29 - Aug 1 with 3224 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:02 - Aug 1 by cocklebreath |
Unlike pessimistic Pat I think we’ll win, Rusty will have us passing them silly |
Oh we’ll have 75% possession, absolutely guaranteed.
But will it lead to anything meaningful?
We shall see. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:32 - Aug 1 with 3226 views | dirk_doone |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:29 - Aug 1 by PatfromPoole |
Oh we’ll have 75% possession, absolutely guaranteed.
But will it lead to anything meaningful?
We shall see. |
Wednesday have only scored 1 goal in their last 5 pre-season games and haven't won any of them. They are missing Darren Moore.
The bookies are expecting a Saints win. But, as a Saints fan, you still can't help wondering who will score our goal and if Wednesday get a shot on target, who will stop it.
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 21:55 - Aug 1 with 3105 views | 1teeminants |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:32 - Aug 1 by dirk_doone |
Wednesday have only scored 1 goal in their last 5 pre-season games and haven't won any of them. They are missing Darren Moore.
The bookies are expecting a Saints win. But, as a Saints fan, you still can't help wondering who will score our goal and if Wednesday get a shot on target, who will stop it.
https://www.oddschecker.com/football/english/championship/sheffield-wednesday-v- [Post edited 1 Aug 2023 20:45]
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The likes of Alcarez, Tella, Smallbone, Aribo are all Capable of finding the net and we all know what Adams and Armstrong did when they played in the championship. There is a massive difference between the championship and premier league so we should be ok. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 22:25 - Aug 1 with 3069 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 21:55 - Aug 1 by 1teeminants |
The likes of Alcarez, Tella, Smallbone, Aribo are all Capable of finding the net and we all know what Adams and Armstrong did when they played in the championship. There is a massive difference between the championship and premier league so we should be ok. |
There really isn’t that much difference at all.
The top 6 in the Prem, yeah OK.
But there really isn’t that much of a gap between the bottom half of the Prem and the whole of the Championship.
And very little gap at all between the bottom 4 or 5 in the Prem and the whole of the Championship. | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 22:39 - Aug 1 with 3063 views | SaintNick |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 22:25 - Aug 1 by PatfromPoole |
There really isn’t that much difference at all.
The top 6 in the Prem, yeah OK.
But there really isn’t that much of a gap between the bottom half of the Prem and the whole of the Championship.
And very little gap at all between the bottom 4 or 5 in the Prem and the whole of the Championship. |
This season's relegated clubs perhaps bucked the trend, but previously the gap has been massive, Burnley go down and then walk the Championship, likewise Fulham & Bournemouth up and down.
If there is really not that much difference then Saints must stand a fighting chance of going up next season .
If you look at the bottom third of the Championship there is a massive gap between the likes of Wigan, Reading, Blackpool and others down there.
Swansea who finished 10th were said to have a terrible manager, playing awful football that would see them getting caught out in the Premier League, but who got lucky in the final months of the season  |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 23:05 - Aug 1 with 3039 views | ericofarabia |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 22:39 - Aug 1 by SaintNick |
This season's relegated clubs perhaps bucked the trend, but previously the gap has been massive, Burnley go down and then walk the Championship, likewise Fulham & Bournemouth up and down.
If there is really not that much difference then Saints must stand a fighting chance of going up next season .
If you look at the bottom third of the Championship there is a massive gap between the likes of Wigan, Reading, Blackpool and others down there.
Swansea who finished 10th were said to have a terrible manager, playing awful football that would see them getting caught out in the Premier League, but who got lucky in the final months of the season |
I remember looking at The Championship table with only a few games to go and there was only about 5 points between 15th and 4th!
RM said just the other day there will be at least 10 teams who seriously think they can be in the frame for getting promoted this season, and he has has 1st hand experience of it. |  | | |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 23:36 - Aug 1 with 3005 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 23:05 - Aug 1 by ericofarabia |
I remember looking at The Championship table with only a few games to go and there was only about 5 points between 15th and 4th!
RM said just the other day there will be at least 10 teams who seriously think they can be in the frame for getting promoted this season, and he has has 1st hand experience of it. |
If only he had first-hand experience of promotion as a manager.
Or anything close to it. | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 07:01 - Aug 2 with 2920 views | MytchettSaint |
It’s the first game of the season. Do people not remember how woeful our record is in the first fixture? If RM can avoid defeat, he’ll be off to a good start. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 08:28 - Aug 2 with 2854 views | 1teeminants |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 22:25 - Aug 1 by PatfromPoole |
There really isn’t that much difference at all.
The top 6 in the Prem, yeah OK.
But there really isn’t that much of a gap between the bottom half of the Prem and the whole of the Championship.
And very little gap at all between the bottom 4 or 5 in the Prem and the whole of the Championship. |
Cheer up Pat we’re going to win the league Ffs 😀🏆 | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 09:17 - Aug 2 with 2815 views | SaintNick |
Not sure what the problem is with the Hampshire live team, especially the back four.
Predicted Saints XI: Bazunu, Livramento, Stephens, Charles, Manning, Smallbone, Ward-Prowse, Alcaraz, Tella, Edozie, A Armstrong.
You have Livramento, one of the best right back prospects in England and Manning one of the best left backs in the Championship last season and proven at the level we are playing at.
The centre of defence is a problem, I have been a critic of Stephens but this is not the Premier League and Charles has not looked out of place in the centre of defence.
The midfield is especially strong and up front you have Armstrong & Tella who between them have scored 45 goals in their last two Championship seasons .
Why would you feel the worst against a newly promoted Sheffield Wednesday team | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 09:30 - Aug 2 with 2793 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 09:17 - Aug 2 by SaintNick |
Not sure what the problem is with the Hampshire live team, especially the back four.
Predicted Saints XI: Bazunu, Livramento, Stephens, Charles, Manning, Smallbone, Ward-Prowse, Alcaraz, Tella, Edozie, A Armstrong.
You have Livramento, one of the best right back prospects in England and Manning one of the best left backs in the Championship last season and proven at the level we are playing at.
The centre of defence is a problem, I have been a critic of Stephens but this is not the Premier League and Charles has not looked out of place in the centre of defence.
The midfield is especially strong and up front you have Armstrong & Tella who between them have scored 45 goals in their last two Championship seasons .
Why would you feel the worst against a newly promoted Sheffield Wednesday team |
They turned it on last season in big home games.
I watched them when they beat Newcastle in the FA Cup, and also when they overturned a 4-0 deficit against Peterborough in the play-offs.
In both games, there was a big atmosphere (as there will be on Friday) and Bannan ran the game in midfield, he's a class act.
If they have studied our pre-season games at all, they will know all they have to do is go direct (as they did against Peterborough at times) and also press us when we are fannying about at the back, and we will cave in.
I am going to the game BTW...... | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 09:31 - Aug 2 with 2796 views | MattFinish |
Okay Sheff Wed came back from a 4-0 deficit but that was like a cup game against L1 opposition and with a different manager
Their pre season has been 💩
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 10:12 - Aug 2 with 2773 views | SaintNick |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 09:30 - Aug 2 by PatfromPoole |
They turned it on last season in big home games.
I watched them when they beat Newcastle in the FA Cup, and also when they overturned a 4-0 deficit against Peterborough in the play-offs.
In both games, there was a big atmosphere (as there will be on Friday) and Bannan ran the game in midfield, he's a class act.
If they have studied our pre-season games at all, they will know all they have to do is go direct (as they did against Peterborough at times) and also press us when we are fannying about at the back, and we will cave in.
I am going to the game BTW...... |
So Saints didn't turn it on in any big games then ? Chelsea at home and away for instance.
The fact that they were 4-0 down from the first leg tells you something as well
Barry Bannan will turn 34 in December, you say he is a class act, would he get in our likely midfield on Friday of Ward Prowse, Lavia, Alcaraz and Edozie/Smallbone.
He has not played above Championship level since 2015, when he managed 22 appearances for Palace in two seasons although he was shipped out on loan to Bolton for part of the season.
Come on Pat, Bannan is a class act in League One but back in the Championship at 34(Nearly) and up against Ward Prowse & Lavia.
There is the direct aspect of things, but then again it is a question of quality, I have watched Totton a few times, they play teams that are direct, but they would not get much change from Saints.
How you getting up there Friday I might need a lift lol | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 10:31 - Aug 2 with 2750 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 10:12 - Aug 2 by SaintNick |
So Saints didn't turn it on in any big games then ? Chelsea at home and away for instance.
The fact that they were 4-0 down from the first leg tells you something as well
Barry Bannan will turn 34 in December, you say he is a class act, would he get in our likely midfield on Friday of Ward Prowse, Lavia, Alcaraz and Edozie/Smallbone.
He has not played above Championship level since 2015, when he managed 22 appearances for Palace in two seasons although he was shipped out on loan to Bolton for part of the season.
Come on Pat, Bannan is a class act in League One but back in the Championship at 34(Nearly) and up against Ward Prowse & Lavia.
There is the direct aspect of things, but then again it is a question of quality, I have watched Totton a few times, they play teams that are direct, but they would not get much change from Saints.
How you getting up there Friday I might need a lift lol |
The Poole Pessimists Society have a full car, I believe…… | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 11:36 - Aug 2 with 2691 views | saints__fan__73 |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 10:12 - Aug 2 by SaintNick |
So Saints didn't turn it on in any big games then ? Chelsea at home and away for instance.
The fact that they were 4-0 down from the first leg tells you something as well
Barry Bannan will turn 34 in December, you say he is a class act, would he get in our likely midfield on Friday of Ward Prowse, Lavia, Alcaraz and Edozie/Smallbone.
He has not played above Championship level since 2015, when he managed 22 appearances for Palace in two seasons although he was shipped out on loan to Bolton for part of the season.
Come on Pat, Bannan is a class act in League One but back in the Championship at 34(Nearly) and up against Ward Prowse & Lavia.
There is the direct aspect of things, but then again it is a question of quality, I have watched Totton a few times, they play teams that are direct, but they would not get much change from Saints.
How you getting up there Friday I might need a lift lol |
Chelsea home and away in total you mean?
FFS Nick,stop trying to defend the worst top flight season in the club's history. We finished last and were by some distance the worst team in the league.
And spent more than £160m on transfer fees alone to do this. |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 13:18 - Aug 2 with 2607 views | SaintNick |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 11:36 - Aug 2 by saints__fan__73 |
Chelsea home and away in total you mean?
FFS Nick,stop trying to defend the worst top flight season in the club's history. We finished last and were by some distance the worst team in the league.
And spent more than £160m on transfer fees alone to do this. |
Im actually suggesting that we put last season in the past and get on with the future | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 18:25 - Aug 2 with 2479 views | darthvader |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 20:15 - Aug 1 by dirk_doone |
Saints have just come down from the Premier League and Wednesday have just come up from League One so the neutrals and most pundits will be expecting a Saints win.
But, there were no indications from the pre-season games that we have sorted out either the goalkeeping or striking problems. Our strikers and goalkeepers are ones you'd just love to play against.
The last real cause for optimism came from the performance of Sulemana in the Liverpool game and he may not even be playing in this game. Let's hope he makes a surprise appearance.
Of course, we don't know how poor Wednesday are. Maybe they are worse. Their pre-season results have been at least as bad as ours:
8 July 2023 York City 1–1 Sheffield Wednesday
11 July 2023 Chesterfield 1–2 Sheffield Wednesday
14 July 2023 Burnley 3–0 Sheffield Wednesday
18 July 2023 Real Murcia 0–0 Sheffield Wednesday
21 July 2023 CD Eldense 4–0 Sheffield Wednesday
25 July 2023 Doncaster Rovers 1–0 Sheffield Wednesday
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Side note ..
Real Murcia. Is my club . . I say my club ...i have shares in it . I get my updates and offers to watch them play . One day i hope to when they get good and play over here in some cup competition or other .
Up the Mercys'!! |  |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 18:33 - Aug 2 with 2469 views | PatfromPoole |
| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 13:18 - Aug 2 by SaintNick |
Im actually suggesting that we put last season in the past and get on with the future |
I agree.
With the caveat that if we continue to make the same mistakes on recruitment, then we will continue to be disappointed.
We all agree that we need more experience in the side, particularly in defence.
If those in charge of recruitment have not addressed this by Sep 1, then we are in for another difficult season. And Russell Martin would actually have my sympathy on that. | |
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| Sheffield Wednesday win? on 19:27 - Aug 2 with 2428 views | DENZY |
This game has draw written all over it. We will concede a sloppy late equaliser after dominating possession. |  |
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