| Is it worth taking the drop 09:48 - Apr 8 with 11596 views | stevec |
It’s a gamble but does anyone think another year at this level is going to see any improvement? I can’t
If we did stay up, last years £24m loss added to this years will almost certainly see a points deduction at some point in 23/24.
As the regulations are different in L1 it should be easier to turn the boat around, without said points deduction, using a mixture of the handful of players who are worth keeping a level down and strengthening the rest of the side with new players conducive to that league and it’s finances.
I can’t see anyone being much interested in our outfield players, most of them have one more year left on their contracts, so they might feel compelled to get back to the Championship with this club, bearing in mind if they fail in L1 most of their careers will be over as far as a higher level goes.
Could be the season to do it as well, reduce the losses, galvanise a new side, and with a new TV agreement for 24/25 it might attract the new ownership this club desperately needs. This lot should unload it for quid if they want to get it off their hands.
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 08:26 - Apr 9 with 1995 views | NorthantsHoop |
It is most likely happening, nothing in this team would suggest otherwise. Have a feeling that if we go down club will be put up for sale especially now training centre is nearing completion, also as a sweetner to any sale the owners will pay off the rest of the FFP fine. League 1 will be a tough watch. |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 08:38 - Apr 9 with 1954 views | QPROslo |
Worth taking a drop? Like saying we don't want the points we've won, take them all off us, 7 times as many as Reading. Can't believe any Club has ever contemplated that or will. Could easily be suicide. |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 18:29 - Apr 9 with 1739 views | BushRanger82 |
Don't think we'll have any choice in the matter.
Relegation is nailed on, as far as I can see. |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 18:37 - Apr 9 with 1719 views | HillAndDerry |
Absolutely not. League One is a notoriously difficult division to escape. You've got lots of big clubs down there - Ipswich, Derby, Sheffield Wednesday, Portsmouth, Charlton, Bolton - plus the likes of Peterborough and Barnsley who are specialists at getting promoted to the Championship. I can see us being down there for years and, even if we eventually got promoted, there'd be a risk of becoming a Champ/League One yo-yo club like Charlton or Rotherham. That said, I don't think we're going to have a choice in the matter. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:01 - Apr 9 with 1621 views | switchingcode |
Burnley fans will say yes but many others will say no and explain the negatives. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:16 - Apr 9 with 1592 views | kensalriser |
Why would anyone think QPR could go down and then simply just choose to get promoted and it would happen? [Post edited 10 Apr 2023 0:49]
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:36 - Apr 9 with 1570 views | CateLeBonR |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:16 - Apr 9 by kensalriser |
Why would anyone think QPR could go down and then simply just choose to get promoted and it would happen? [Post edited 10 Apr 2023 0:49]
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I think the question is should we go down now or suffer another season even worse than this one and then go down anyway? |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:47 - Apr 9 with 1534 views | BrianMcCarthy |
I remember a gang of us drinking in Victoria Station with fans of different clubs the day in '96 that we got relegated from the Premier League. All we heard all evening was "enjoy your season down, and I remember Ray Wilkins telling us in a protest meeting two weeks before that he'd been assured by friends of his that we'd beat 90% of the teams with ease.
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:55 - Apr 9 with 1524 views | stevec |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:16 - Apr 9 by kensalriser |
Why would anyone think QPR could go down and then simply just choose to get promoted and it would happen? [Post edited 10 Apr 2023 0:49]
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I don’t think anyone does, it took us three seasons previously.
My point is we’ve trod water for eight seasons and we’ve long been told that’s due to the owners not being able to fund any improvement due to FFP restrictions.
Well relegation to L1 and a different slant to the FFP rules would give them that opportunity or at least flush out just how true they are to their word.
I sense that may well result in disappointment but I would prefer to know precisely where we stand with the owners if only to end this perpetual paralysis. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 20:55 - Apr 9 with 1467 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:55 - Apr 9 by stevec |
I don’t think anyone does, it took us three seasons previously.
My point is we’ve trod water for eight seasons and we’ve long been told that’s due to the owners not being able to fund any improvement due to FFP restrictions.
Well relegation to L1 and a different slant to the FFP rules would give them that opportunity or at least flush out just how true they are to their word.
I sense that may well result in disappointment but I would prefer to know precisely where we stand with the owners if only to end this perpetual paralysis. |
I think it's a really interesting questions, for the reasons you mention. | |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 21:13 - Apr 9 with 1436 views | joe90 |
There was a point where I thought relegation to league 1 could kick start a rebuild. Some of the reasons have been mentioned, but the main one is being able to compete financially and build some moment.
As the weeks have passed and the poor form has continued I’m now of the opinion that we’re screwed whatever happens. I don’t know what the solution is, but what I’m sure of is that there is no quick fix.
I’m holding onto the hope that our next revamp will be the one. If Luton can drop out the football league and come back as they have, so can we. But who knows when that’ll be? |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 21:23 - Apr 9 with 1408 views | PunteR |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 19:55 - Apr 9 by stevec |
I don’t think anyone does, it took us three seasons previously.
My point is we’ve trod water for eight seasons and we’ve long been told that’s due to the owners not being able to fund any improvement due to FFP restrictions.
Well relegation to L1 and a different slant to the FFP rules would give them that opportunity or at least flush out just how true they are to their word.
I sense that may well result in disappointment but I would prefer to know precisely where we stand with the owners if only to end this perpetual paralysis. |
I think we know the answer, sadly. |  |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 21:36 - Apr 9 with 1392 views | PunteR |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 20:55 - Apr 9 by BrianMcCarthy |
I think it's a really interesting questions, for the reasons you mention. |
C'mon Bri, you know.
We know this lot. They've been here longer than any other owner i think?. Correct me if im wrong. | |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 21:40 - Apr 9 with 1380 views | BrianMcCarthy |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 21:36 - Apr 9 by PunteR |
C'mon Bri, you know.
We know this lot. They've been here longer than any other owner i think?. Correct me if im wrong. |
Oh, I think I can guess, but I hate guessing.
I don't trust them, I never have, I've always wondered about their stadium plans being tied to new housing. That worries me.
Gregory was here longer, for one, and he sold us to a property developer who tried to kill us. I was a teenager then and I haven't trusted any owner since! | |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 22:21 - Apr 9 with 1312 views | Wegerles_Stairs |
We've failed to beat either Charlton or Fleetwood this season. Unless there's dramatic changes at Board level, we'll continue to struggle whichever division we're in next season. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 22:39 - Apr 9 with 1274 views | daveB |
If we went down what we could do is look to really implement this development idea, bring in players and build a team not only to get out of league one but to be top end of the championship with sellable assets, not easy to do but is what Sunderland and Sheff Utd did eventually and what Ipswich are doing now. What we must avoid doing is filling the team with senior pros, play long ball and look to fight our way out of the league as although it may well work we'll be back to square one once we get back to the championship
For me that's why if we do go down we need a different manager than Ainsworth |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 00:42 - Apr 10 with 1196 views | newgolddream |
Absolutely spot on. With this shower we could end in the National League 😓 |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 00:54 - Apr 10 with 1176 views | kensalriser |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 22:39 - Apr 9 by daveB |
If we went down what we could do is look to really implement this development idea, bring in players and build a team not only to get out of league one but to be top end of the championship with sellable assets, not easy to do but is what Sunderland and Sheff Utd did eventually and what Ipswich are doing now. What we must avoid doing is filling the team with senior pros, play long ball and look to fight our way out of the league as although it may well work we'll be back to square one once we get back to the championship
For me that's why if we do go down we need a different manager than Ainsworth |
My feeling is Ainsworth will be gone by Christmas. | |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 00:57 - Apr 10 with 1170 views | numptydumpty |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 00:42 - Apr 10 by newgolddream |
Absolutely spot on. With this shower we could end in the National League 😓 |
The answer is no !!!
Could slip further down and could be at least four or five seasons minimum down in league one.
Almost as tough getting up to Championship as it is into premier league.
Some big clubs stranded in that league, we would perhaps at best be in the play offs and as we know that's a total lottery !!! |  |
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 02:21 - Apr 10 with 1150 views | itsbiga |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 10:09 - Apr 8 by Juzzie |
‘Taking a drop’ is never a good thing.
Look at Ipswich, Bolton, Charlton. Sunderland took quite a few seasons to get back and that was with 25k+ crowds.
We took three seasons last time, this time I fear would be a lot, lot longer
We need to avoid going down. |
Yeah, I think if we go down we stay down unfortunately.
Fakes will beat Wigan at the end of April and that’ll be us done.
We ain’t getting another point without a fooking miracle happening. [Post edited 10 Apr 2023 2:35]
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 03:21 - Apr 10 with 1122 views | DannyPaddox |
Stating the obvious: I don’t want us to go down.
Stating the not so obvious: I’ll feel more inclined to renew my season ticket if we’ve gone down to League 1 than another season in the Championship.
Good or bad that’s my gut feeling. Probably down to the manager and the style of football. |  | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 03:43 - Apr 10 with 1114 views | ozexile |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 22:39 - Apr 9 by daveB |
If we went down what we could do is look to really implement this development idea, bring in players and build a team not only to get out of league one but to be top end of the championship with sellable assets, not easy to do but is what Sunderland and Sheff Utd did eventually and what Ipswich are doing now. What we must avoid doing is filling the team with senior pros, play long ball and look to fight our way out of the league as although it may well work we'll be back to square one once we get back to the championship
For me that's why if we do go down we need a different manager than Ainsworth |
Would you trust this coaching team to identify the correct players for that? I certainly wouldn't. Someone actually thought signing Dozzell was a good idea. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 06:04 - Apr 10 with 1086 views | BushRanger82 |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 22:21 - Apr 9 by Wegerles_Stairs |
We've failed to beat either Charlton or Fleetwood this season. Unless there's dramatic changes at Board level, we'll continue to struggle whichever division we're in next season. |
We've become so adept, club and fans, at forgetting instantly, any defeat to a lower league side in the cups, we forget we have already taken on 2 of our potential opponents in League 1 next season, in both cup competitions, and come up woefully short both times.
Food for thought. [Post edited 10 Apr 2023 6:23]
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| Is it worth taking the drop on 06:54 - Apr 10 with 1052 views | joe90 |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 00:54 - Apr 10 by kensalriser |
My feeling is Ainsworth will be gone by Christmas. |
If our track record is anything to go by you’re probably right. | | | |
| Is it worth taking the drop on 07:10 - Apr 10 with 1043 views | kropotkin41 |
At some stage QPR needs to wake up from Ground Hog Day. Now, I don't relish relegation, but I think it's happening, everybody, so we might as well align ourselves with that now. Once we're in League One, we want to win some games and score some goals. Wouldn't it be nice to have players who look interested and play blood and thunder? I can absolutely say two things, apart from a spell under Warburton (which I suspect was sabotaged behind the scenes), one of the only two teams we've had in the 21st Century that I absolutely loved and, happily back in those days could get to see on the regular, was one built to get us out of League One.
Things have changed blah! We'll stay there for years blah! We'll go down again blah! You know what? Oh well: until we have players who run out with pride and fight and until we have a club we can all say has some integrity, nothing else really matters. Being in this state in this league has rarely been fun over too many years. It's killing a lot of people's interest in football let alone the club.
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