| 5 Subs next season 13:23 - Jun 10 with 8246 views | aston_hoop |
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| 5 Subs next season on 10:49 - Jun 13 with 2073 views | Superhoop83 |
| 5 Subs next season on 10:30 - Jun 13 by CroydonCaptJack |
Who remembers when it was just one Sub?
And usually Mick Leach. |
When I was kid, it was usually Steve Burke. |  |
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| 5 Subs next season on 10:49 - Jun 13 with 2073 views | bosh67 |
| 5 Subs next season on 10:30 - Jun 13 by CroydonCaptJack |
Who remembers when it was just one Sub?
And usually Mick Leach. |
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| 5 Subs next season on 11:35 - Jun 13 with 1990 views | Lancashirehoop |
| 5 Subs next season on 22:37 - Jun 11 by qpr_1968 |
its down to the fans to save whats left of our lovely game, but how? |
I too wouldn't want the game to become more Americanised but maybe the ref should stop his watch for substitutions. All he needs to do is indicate the clock has stopped by raising an arm or maybe getting the nearside linesman to raise his flag indicating the clock has been stopped and then the clock starts again on resumption of play. He could also have this descretion (which I assume he already does anyway) for lengthy injuries. |  |
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| 5 Subs next season on 12:07 - Jun 13 with 1939 views | stanistheman |
| 5 Subs next season on 11:35 - Jun 13 by Lancashirehoop |
I too wouldn't want the game to become more Americanised but maybe the ref should stop his watch for substitutions. All he needs to do is indicate the clock has stopped by raising an arm or maybe getting the nearside linesman to raise his flag indicating the clock has been stopped and then the clock starts again on resumption of play. He could also have this descretion (which I assume he already does anyway) for lengthy injuries. |
Better still, have the clock stopped every time the ball is dead, and restart when the game does. Make the game last for 60 minutes of actual playing time rather than 90 minutes with loads of time wasting and arguments over too much or not enough added time. The final whistle can go as soon as the ball is dead after 60 minutes. |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 21:28 - Jun 13 with 1808 views | GloryHunter |
This is not the game that I started supporting in the 1960s. Combined with the fact that I can't see what's happening at the School End because of the new LED perimeter advertising, I have decided not to renew my ST. I will watch passively online and support the team from afar. |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 13:23 - Jun 15 with 1709 views | Cliff |
| 5 Subs next season on 13:34 - Jun 10 by BklynRanger |
Could help with injuries and aging (Norwegian) players I suppose.
Will add to the time wasting of course - players shuffling off like they've shat themselves. |
It's down to the ref to add the time back on no matter how long a player takes, so it shouldn't be an issue |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 13:51 - Jun 15 with 1664 views | timeforheroes |
| 5 Subs next season on 12:07 - Jun 13 by stanistheman |
Better still, have the clock stopped every time the ball is dead, and restart when the game does. Make the game last for 60 minutes of actual playing time rather than 90 minutes with loads of time wasting and arguments over too much or not enough added time. The final whistle can go as soon as the ball is dead after 60 minutes. |
Fear that this would only accelerate Americanisation- how could timewasting be enforced if clock is stopped? Would refs still book for timewasting? If not why wouldn't players take the opportunity to have a drink/discuss the next 'play' with the 'offense' coach? |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:16 - Jun 15 with 1634 views | PinnerPaul |
Latest 'improvement' proposed, from Mr Wenger, no less, kick in 'throws'.
Being discussed by IFAB. | | | |
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| 5 Subs next season on 15:19 - Jun 15 with 1624 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:16 - Jun 15 by PinnerPaul |
Latest 'improvement' proposed, from Mr Wenger, no less, kick in 'throws'.
Being discussed by IFAB. |
Let’s hope they kick that idea into touch. |  |
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| 5 Subs next season on 15:20 - Jun 15 with 1619 views | PinnerPaul |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:19 - Jun 15 by CliveWilsonSaid |
Let’s hope they kick that idea into touch. |
Very good!
On the one hand, its not football as we know it, but then neither is VAR, on the other it might well speed the game up? | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:27 - Jun 15 with 1608 views | terryb |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:20 - Jun 15 by PinnerPaul |
Very good!
On the one hand, its not football as we know it, but then neither is VAR, on the other it might well speed the game up? |
No chance of that speeding up the game!
I had the misfortune to watch this being experimented with in the Isthmian League in the '90's.
Any "kick in" within 70 yards of the goal, you had to weait for all the defenders to reach the penalty area before the ball was launched into "the mixer".
It was awful, but thankfully only lasted a season. | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:51 - Jun 15 with 1585 views | BklynRanger |
| 5 Subs next season on 13:23 - Jun 15 by Cliff |
It's down to the ref to add the time back on no matter how long a player takes, so it shouldn't be an issue |
? - It very often is though, even with the current allowance. |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:55 - Jun 15 with 1583 views | dmm |
| 5 Subs next season on 10:30 - Jun 13 by CroydonCaptJack |
Who remembers when it was just one Sub?
And usually Mick Leach. |
I seem to remember Frank Sibley and the legend that was Alan Wilks often being the sub. |  | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 16:47 - Jun 15 with 1544 views | QPR_John |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:16 - Jun 15 by PinnerPaul |
Latest 'improvement' proposed, from Mr Wenger, no less, kick in 'throws'.
Being discussed by IFAB. |
Will the opposition players be required to be 10 yards from the ball. | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 17:27 - Jun 15 with 1494 views | CliveWilsonSaid |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:20 - Jun 15 by PinnerPaul |
Very good!
On the one hand, its not football as we know it, but then neither is VAR, on the other it might well speed the game up? |
It depends on how it’s implemented of course but I imagine it could completely change the sport. Just look at the lengths teams go to winning free-kicks. Wouldn’t this just extend to throw ins too? For instance teams taking the ball out wide and kicking it against defenders to win what is essentially a free-kick?
I guess if the rule was kick-ins with no run up it might be ok.
*Edit- To answer your question I’ve no idea if it would speed the game up or not. I’m doubtful it would. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 17:28]
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| 5 Subs next season on 17:52 - Jun 15 with 1465 views | PinnerPaul |
| 5 Subs next season on 15:27 - Jun 15 by terryb |
No chance of that speeding up the game!
I had the misfortune to watch this being experimented with in the Isthmian League in the '90's.
Any "kick in" within 70 yards of the goal, you had to weait for all the defenders to reach the penalty area before the ball was launched into "the mixer".
It was awful, but thankfully only lasted a season. |
Could you not retain the 2m distance that is in place now for throws, that would rule out them being anything other than a (hopefully) quicker way to get the ball play? | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 20:04 - Jun 15 with 1385 views | QPR_John |
| 5 Subs next season on 17:27 - Jun 15 by CliveWilsonSaid |
It depends on how it’s implemented of course but I imagine it could completely change the sport. Just look at the lengths teams go to winning free-kicks. Wouldn’t this just extend to throw ins too? For instance teams taking the ball out wide and kicking it against defenders to win what is essentially a free-kick?
I guess if the rule was kick-ins with no run up it might be ok.
*Edit- To answer your question I’ve no idea if it would speed the game up or not. I’m doubtful it would. [Post edited 15 Jun 2022 17:28]
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“ For instance teams taking the ball out wide and kicking it against defenders to win what is essentially a free-kick? ”
Surely one of the top reasons against a free kick replacing a throw in. An attacker putting or deflecting the ball out of play does not warrant the end of the attack. | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 20:07 - Jun 15 with 1381 views | terryb |
| 5 Subs next season on 17:52 - Jun 15 by PinnerPaul |
Could you not retain the 2m distance that is in place now for throws, that would rule out them being anything other than a (hopefully) quicker way to get the ball play? |
Sorry Paul, what is the 2m distance that is in place for throws? Is that the distance opponents are meant to be away from the throw in taker?
At the time of the '93/'94(?) experiment I think you could theoretically be stood closer than that. I can't remember when you were prohibited from standing up close & personal!
I believe that you would get a number of opponents stopping the "kick in" being taken until they were ushered away. Just like with free kicks now. | | | |
| 5 Subs next season on 14:58 - Jun 16 with 1206 views | PinnerPaul |
| 5 Subs next season on 20:07 - Jun 15 by terryb |
Sorry Paul, what is the 2m distance that is in place for throws? Is that the distance opponents are meant to be away from the throw in taker?
At the time of the '93/'94(?) experiment I think you could theoretically be stood closer than that. I can't remember when you were prohibited from standing up close & personal!
I believe that you would get a number of opponents stopping the "kick in" being taken until they were ushered away. Just like with free kicks now. |
Yes the 2m 'rule' has been in place for about 5 years now.
You can walk back slowly 10 yards as they do now for fks but not 2! 
Whatever happens to the speed of the game it WOULD prevent them becoming defacto free kicks at least. | | | |
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